No, not close at all.John Rupp wrote:What was your stroke rate today?ranger wrote:Big slap on the wrist today for thinking that I can avoid AT work in training.
It sounds like you weren't close to 8 meters per stroke.
I never lift weights.TomR wrote:I find the weight training studies problematic.
The duration of the studies is always relatively short, so I'm never sure what they tell me about extended training.
Second, it is difficult to know the conditioning and strength of the study participants, so it is difficult to apply the results to one's own case.
Finally, I find balancing weight training w/ rowing specific training to be tricky. Significant weight work--whether focused on strength or endurance--demands recovery, which affects overall training volume
I expect we can agree that the value of raw power is greater on the erg than on the water, where technique so determines one's ability to apply power.
No pigs will fly, but some good AT work will get done.jliddil wrote:And perhaps pigs will fly
Sure, but I have done no predictive workouts.snowleopard wrote:Who gives a sh*t. Were you in Boston?ranger wrote:Did Mike VB race this weekend?
You raced today and you were more than 20 seconds slower than your prediction.
Mitochondrial Dilution
When a bodybuilder trains, the goal is to make each muscle fiber as big as possible. Muscle fibers have contractile protein, mitochondrial protein, and other components. Increasing the relative proportion of one component (like more contractile protein) means that you have relatively less of everything else in the same fiber (like mitochondria). From an endurance standpoint this is not a good adaptation. We even give it a name in sports physiology circles, mitochondrial dilution. The bodybuilder's muscles may actually become more easily fatigued as they get bigger, because their mitochondrial density is not increasing at the same rate. The bodybuilder accepts that because the name of the game is size, not endurance.
John Rupp wrote:It sounds like you weren't close to 8 meters per stroke.
So I have noticed.ranger wrote:No, not close at all.
I don't like to rate 46 spm for my 2Ks.
... Your 6:50.5 would be 36.5 spm at 8mps.Oh yes I would love to row 8mps at 46spm for a 2k.Do you?
That's just the point. Yet you continually crow about your potential. Your potential is now being realized and the inconsistency of your performances are directly attributable to your training.ranger wrote:
......... I have done no predictive workouts.
No you don't.nutcase wrote:As a 60s lwt, I now have the stroking power of an elite 20-year-old.
Training for hypertrophy is only one form of weight training. Obviously, hypertrophy would not be the focus of a proper weight training regimen for a rower, especially a lightweight. You can gain strength while gaining very little muscle mass, up to a point that is certainly within the needs of most rowers. You can also work on strength-endurance.Byron Drachman wrote:I'm flogging a dead horse here, but it would appear that you should be careful not to overdo the weight workouts. You can read the entire discussion here:
http://home.hia.no/~stephens/str&end.htm
Mitochondrial Dilution
When a bodybuilder trains, the goal is to make each muscle fiber as big as possible. Muscle fibers have contractile protein, mitochondrial protein, and other components. Increasing the relative proportion of one component (like more contractile protein) means that you have relatively less of everything else in the same fiber (like mitochondria). From an endurance standpoint this is not a good adaptation. We even give it a name in sports physiology circles, mitochondrial dilution. The bodybuilder's muscles may actually become more easily fatigued as they get bigger, because their mitochondrial density is not increasing at the same rate. The bodybuilder accepts that because the name of the game is size, not endurance.
