My C2 hurts my butt

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Post by kipkeino68 » February 16th, 2010, 9:14 pm

I have a the butt pain problem too. 1 hour rows kill. I use a pad and a wash cloth.
I found a product at CRASH-Bs Sunday that I'm thinking of buying.
It's a shock absorbing device that was developed to prevent back pain. I'd be getting it strictly for butt pain.
Here is a quote from the website:
"While the body motions are identical to that of water rowing, on an erg the downward shock is neither absorbed by the rigid erg frame nor is it dissipated in the surface the erg is resting on (e.g. concrete, asphalt, grass, or wood flooring).
The force is absorbed in the most flexible component of the rower-machine system: the back of the rower."
I'm hoping that the buoyancy will remedy my butt pain, and I'm strongly considering buying one. http://www.shoxbox.biz/Home_Page.html
Does anyone own one?
Bill Burke
52M, 72.0 kg, 5'10.5", 153 lbs
Started 12-15-2006
2K: 7:08.7
1K: 3:23.8

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Post by Couloirman » February 18th, 2010, 9:44 am

I was debating that product as well, although it didnt occur to me that it might help with butt pain.

It does seem to me that being on an erg with an inclined rear post would make you work the drive a lot more with you quads, but I bet you could be lulled into some bad habits on the recovery because with the angle you will just fall forward from gravity instead of having to pull with your hamstrings.

Id love to hear from someone with experience with that product as well, there's really not any info on the forums that I can find about it and Im close to pulling the trigger...

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Post by johnlvs2run » February 18th, 2010, 1:33 pm

You could use a pair of shocks to replace the back legs, as is done with bicycle seats, carts and cars etc.
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Post by Byron Drachman » February 18th, 2010, 10:35 pm

Couloirman wrote:I was debating that product as well, although it didnt occur to me that it might help with butt pain.

It does seem to me that being on an erg with an inclined rear post would make you work the drive a lot more with you quads, but I bet you could be lulled into some bad habits on the recovery because with the angle you will just fall forward from gravity instead of having to pull with your hamstrings.

Id love to hear from someone with experience with that product as well, there's really not any info on the forums that I can find about it and Im close to pulling the trigger...
I hope you find something that works. Maybe with more time?

Boats have the tracks slanted a little so gravity helps you go into the catch. The idea is to relax going into the catch, with the feeling that you are applying no forces but rather the boat is moving under you. In actual practice I think you do use the hamstrings and pull with the heels but it is with a very light pressure.

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Post by Nosmo » February 18th, 2010, 10:51 pm

Couloirman wrote:It does seem to me that being on an erg with an inclined rear post would make you work the drive a lot more with you quads, but I bet you could be lulled into some bad habits on the recovery because with the angle you will just fall forward from gravity instead of having to pull with your hamstrings.
This is a good habit. One is not supposed to pull oneself forward. It checks the boat. The slope is there for precisely that reason.

The slope does add a little to the drive. Not sure what the slope is but say one lifts their body 5 cm (2"). If they are lifting 80 kg (a bit less then body weight) at 30 spm, then the added power would be mgh/t 20 watts, but one would use less energy coming up the slide.

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Post by Couloirman » February 20th, 2010, 7:56 pm

kipkeino68 wrote:http://www.shoxbox.biz/Home_Page.html
Does anyone own one?

Just ordered it a second ago, Ill post info about it as soon I put a few thousand K on it next week.

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Post by kipkeino68 » February 23rd, 2010, 1:36 pm

Looking forward to your review.
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52M, 72.0 kg, 5'10.5", 153 lbs
Started 12-15-2006
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