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Post by whp4 » January 23rd, 2010, 1:11 am

ranger wrote: I suspect that Eskild does his 18K hour rows
That's a key difference between Eskild and you -- he does his rows, and doesn't talk about them, whereas you talk about rows you don't do...

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Post by hjs » January 23rd, 2010, 6:40 am

atklein90 wrote:I'm relatively new to rowing, so I guess I would be classified as a 'newbie' per one of the posters (about 25 pages back). I've been following this thread for a few weeks now and constantly have been waiting for evidence of these amazing feats that ranger claims to acheive. I guess I'll never get the proof.

Could one of you loyal thread followers please post his results in this thread following Jan 30? The suspense as to his performance is killing me. I've been waiting and waiting to find out if he'll blow away the competition or if he'll just prove to be a blowhard (it sounds like many of you already know the answer to this), but I just need to know what happens!!!!!

By the way, who in the world has 4-6 hours a day to spend exercising? Can this really be real????
50% he won,t show up at all
25% he won,t make weight
23% he will pull a plus 7 min row
1% for a 6.5x
1% and 6.4x

this makes 100%

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Post by Byron Drachman » January 23rd, 2010, 7:04 am

For those who came to this thread hoping for a Ranger posting, maybe this will help hold you over until the troll returns:

Ranger wrote:Mon Aug 21, 2006:
This fall will be my first race rowing with proper technique after full distance training and full sharpening.
Should be fun!
If I don't have to make weight and can spend all of my time before the races working on distance racing and sharpening, I predict 6:16.
Wish me luck!

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Post by mikvan52 » January 23rd, 2010, 10:32 am

Byron:

Here's a link to a charming posting written by Rocket Roy
http://concept2.co.uk/forum/blog.php?u=2491&b=22231

It's about the EIRC in 2006 (Amsterdam)

Was this the last time that ranger faced Roy?

I like the part: "You'll never row as a lightweight again." and the 6:28 claim.

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Post by ranger » January 23rd, 2010, 11:24 am

mikvan52 wrote:Byron:

Here's a link to a charming posting written by Rocket Roy
http://concept2.co.uk/forum/blog.php?u=2491&b=22231

It's about the EIRC in 2006 (Amsterdam)

Was this the last time that ranger faced Roy?

I like the part: "You'll never row as a lightweight again." and the 6:28 claim.
My weight is coming down _very_ nicely now.

I am losing a couple of pounds a week.

I should be 11 something per cent body fat when I race in Indianapolis next Saturday.

Then I should be 160 lbs. and 10% body fat when I race in Boston in three weeks.

By Chicago I should reach my weight target, 158 lbs. and 9% body fat.

On the average, elite young rowers are 9% body fat.

I have 144 lbs. of non-fat body mass.

That stays stable, no matter how much fat I have.

Needless to say, this is the best my weight has ever been, even better than it was in 2003.

Why is this?

I have brought along my cross-training this year so that--in an easy and relaxed way--I can do twice as much as I have done in the past, 3 hours rather than 90min.

I have given up eating in the middle of the day.

I skip lunch.

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Post by KevJGK » January 23rd, 2010, 11:32 am

ranger wrote:But for now, I think I'll just stay away from here.
Do you ever do anything you say you will?
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Post by ranger » January 23rd, 2010, 11:56 am

KevJGK wrote:
ranger wrote:But for now, I think I'll just stay away from here.
Do you ever do anything you say you will?
Rowing doesn't have anything to do with talking, Kevin.

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Post by ranger » January 23rd, 2010, 12:07 pm

KevJGK wrote:
ranger wrote:But for now, I think I'll just stay away from here.
Do you ever do anything you say you will?
I have three WR rows. I have won all of the major championships.

I have dedicated the last seven years to being the best that I can be.

If you still don't respect that, you are a lost soul, son.

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Post by hjs » January 23rd, 2010, 12:12 pm

Posted by ranger: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:34 am Post subject:

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This forum was _very_ useful as an introduction to rowing, back when I took up the sport in 2001.
It was also fun to chat with everyone here as I built up to and accomplished my WR rows in 2003.
Over the past five years or so, I have even enjoyed talking about learning to row.
These things are pretty much in the past now, though.
I am no longer a novice.
I now row well.
And being older but better, more WRs seem inevitable, as far into the future as I want to go.
So nothing more to say about this issue, either.
My workouts have now reached their own sort of steady state.
For now on, both for the remainder of this year and off into future years, I will just hold to the sort of work I am doing now--distance rowing, then sprints, then cross-training, pretty much every day.
That will keep me race ready. In all, I like to put in about four hours a session, in the early morning before dawn.
So there is nothing else to say about that, either.
Given this, I think I won't post here anymore.
It is clear that what I have been saying about my goals and being the best I can be isn't appreciated.
So there is really no reason to go on with it.
If some new project crops up, I'll start posting again.
Perhaps when I am building up to my first row OTW at the Head of the Charles in a couple of years.
But for now, I think I'll just stay away from here.
There is no longer anything here that I find useful or encouraging.
Good luck to everyone. See you at the races.




hahahahha not 1 day did it last :lol:

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Post by nycbone » January 23rd, 2010, 12:19 pm

Those who engage in self-aggrandizing behavior find it difficult to stay away... but it's good to know that he now rows well. :wink:
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Post by mikvan52 » January 23rd, 2010, 12:23 pm

One shot of ranger and I'm good for the whole day.

Now available in the New concentrated formula: just a little goes a long way:
ranger wrote:
I should be ... something ... .... when I ...

Then I should be ... when I ....

By ... I should reach my ....

We missed you big guy!

You're sort of like the weather channel or a TV test pattern...
or even:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgKabZvV ... re=related

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Post by blake_mulder » January 23rd, 2010, 12:33 pm

Welcome back Rev Ranger! Time to preach a sermon to your flock of nay-sayers. :P

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Post by bloomp » January 23rd, 2010, 12:44 pm

ranger wrote:
mikvan52 wrote:Byron:

Here's a link to a charming posting written by Rocket Roy
http://concept2.co.uk/forum/blog.php?u=2491&b=22231

It's about the EIRC in 2006 (Amsterdam)

Was this the last time that ranger faced Roy?

I like the part: "You'll never row as a lightweight again." and the 6:28 claim.
My weight is coming down _very_ nicely now.

I am losing a couple of pounds a week.

I should be 11 something per cent body fat when I race in Indianapolis next Saturday.

Then I should be 160 lbs. and 10% body fat when I race in Boston in three weeks.

By Chicago I should reach my weight target, 158 lbs. and 9% body fat.

On the average, elite young rowers are 9% body fat.

I have 144 lbs. of non-fat body mass.

That stays stable, no matter how much fat I have.

Needless to say, this is the best my weight has ever been, even better than it was in 2003.

Why is this?

I have brought along my cross-training this year so that--in an easy and relaxed way--I can do twice as much as I have done in the past, 3 hours rather than 90min.

I have given up eating in the middle of the day.

I skip lunch.
Rich,

I gave up on responding to you. But now you have me legitimately concerned. You are beginning to fit the merits of having an eating disorder, whether you'd like to admit it or not. Skipping a meal is extremely unhealthy (especially with the amount of exercise you do). And it has been shown repeatedly that skipping lunch only increases the amount you eat later in the day.

Expecting to lose that much weight (when you do not have that much to lose) is also a sign of such a disorder. Just do yourself a favor and re-evaluate your weight loss ideas and goals.
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Post by ranger » January 23rd, 2010, 12:48 pm

bloomp wrote:you have me legitimately concerned. You are beginning to fit the merits of having an eating disorder, whether you'd like to admit it or not. Skipping a meal is extremely unhealthy (especially with the amount of exercise you do). And it has been shown repeatedly that skipping lunch only increases the amount you eat later in the day.
Oh, B.S.

Lots of people eat less for lunch.

It is one of the healthiest things you can do.

Do you recommend two quarter pounders with cheese, large fries, large coke, and a frostie?

:lol: :lol:

The average American male is about 50 pounds overweight.

Why is that?

Eating habits are killing the average American.

Only 1% of 60-year-old males are 9% body fat.

50% are 25% body fat (or more).

At 25% body fat, I am 195 lbs., as I was when I pulled 6:27.5 as a 50s heavyweight in 2002.

10% of 60-year-old males are 31% body fat.

At 31% body fat, I am 210 lbs.

My brother has weighed 210 lbs. for quite a while.

When we were younger, we weighed right about the same--155-165 lbs.

This past year, he had his first heart attack.

His systolic blood pressure was up to 190.

He is now taking lipitor, etc., to control his blood pressure.

At Christmas, he keeled over in his *** DELETE - SPAM *** and was hauled off to the hospital for a week.

He runs five miles a day.

He is one of our most prominent exercise physiologists.

Life is full of ironies.

No?

Fat is killing him.

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Post by ranger » January 23rd, 2010, 12:52 pm

bloomp wrote:you have me legitimately concerned. You are beginning to fit the merits of having an eating disorder, whether you'd like to admit it or not. Skipping a meal is extremely unhealthy (especially with the amount of exercise you do). And it has been shown repeatedly that skipping lunch only increases the amount you eat later in the day.
On the other hand, I agree with you that being a great lightweight rower is a certain sort of eating disorder.

:lol: :lol:

But then again, "disorders" of various sorts are characteristic of all high professionalization in anything, as you will discover, if you become a doctor.

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