Workout from Hell?

Elamonta · Post by **Elamonta** » January 20th, 2009, 2:47 pm

Hey all,

Today our coach assigned the following workout...I follow the Pete Plan and wolverine threads almost religiously, and I was looking for some thoughts on if this workout is even "doable"...

4 x 7:00 (4:00 rest) at 2k pace

(We just did a 2k test last Wednesday so the pace from that test is to be used for this workout)...

My only thought is that if someone PR'd on the last 2k...which some did...how on earth are they going to be able to repeat that 3 more times on 4:00 rest...yes 4:00 is nice, but not nearly enough to recover from an all out attempt at a 2k (which for our guys they would be pulling more than 2k in the 7min span)...

Any thoughts?

Stefana · Post by **Stefana** » January 20th, 2009, 4:08 pm

What are you guys training for now? either way it seems like an unreasonable workout unless he is just trying to motivate you to push yourselves beyond what you thought was possible and doesn't really expect you to pull those times. Seems like a douchebag move to me though.

Elamonta · Post by **Elamonta** » January 20th, 2009, 4:12 pm

Haha...my thoughts exactly...we are sort of training for erg sprints in two weeks...but its also prep for the spring season...

PaulH · Post by **PaulH** » January 20th, 2009, 5:28 pm

I think to some extent that depends on what level you're rowing at. If your 2k pb is 6:30, then doing 4 lots at the same pace as your 2k but for longer is unreasonable - in fact doing just 1 would be a strain.

Nosmo · Post by **Nosmo** » January 20th, 2009, 7:12 pm

If your 2K time is 10 minutes or so then it comes close to being reasonable--if your 2K time is significantly faster then no one could do that.
Or if you 2K time was rate limited to something like 20 spm and this is not rate limited it may be possible.
4x7min r4' can be done at something like 5K pace (although 4' rest is a bit short).
Don't know what your coach was thinking but it does not appear to be possible let alone a reasonable workout .

Cyclist2 · Post by **Cyclist2** » January 20th, 2009, 7:19 pm

My daughter rowed her freshman year in college. The workouts they were put through were brutal, every day, sometimes twice. Many of the women were injured or sick all winter as a result. With all the new knowledge in exercise physiology, I was baffled at how hard they were pushed with no real time to rest and let the muscles, and rest of the body, recover and get stronger.

Your workout there sounds like one of those. As suggested, it may be just to see how hard you can go mentally as well as physically, and I suggest the next day should be an easy or complete rest day.

badocter · Post by **badocter** » January 21st, 2009, 2:29 am

PaulH wrote:I think to some extent that depends on what level you're rowing at. If your 2k pb is 6:30, then doing 4 lots at the same pace as your 2k but for longer is unreasonable - in fact doing just 1 would be a strain.

Agreed. If you have a 2k faster than 7:00, then by definition, holding your true "2k" pace for 7:00 for even one rep is not possible by any theory. 4 reps would be doable at close to 5k pace...

hjs · Post by **hjs** » January 21st, 2009, 4:58 am

Elamonta wrote:Hey all,

Today our coach assigned the following workout...I follow the Pete Plan and wolverine threads almost religiously, and I was looking for some thoughts on if this workout is even "doable"...

4 x 7:00 (4:00 rest) at 2k pace

(We just did a 2k test last Wednesday so the pace from that test is to be used for this workout)...

My only thought is that if someone PR'd on the last 2k...which some did...how on earth are they going to be able to repeat that 3 more times on 4:00 rest...yes 4:00 is nice, but not nearly enough to recover from an all out attempt at a 2k (which for our guys they would be pulling more than 2k in the 7min span)...

Any thoughts?

Let the coach do it himslef first............... After that he will have a more sensibele idea.

romad63 · Post by **romad63** » January 21st, 2009, 12:53 pm

i've tried to do back to back 2k's at race pace with 15 minutes rest between them and DIED during the second one.

To do four of them on 4 minutes rest - INSANE - I don't honestly see how it could be done if you had an honest pace. By definition you should be going full out and leave NOTHING during a race - no way you can recover from that in 4 minutes.

Rhubarbarian · Post by **Rhubarbarian** » January 22nd, 2009, 1:16 am

So, Elmonta, how about printing out these responses and presenting them to your coach?

Or would that tag you as a "whiner"?

Elamonta · Post by **Elamonta** » January 22nd, 2009, 4:15 pm

Haha...well the workout has already passed, so im not too concerned.

Nomugie · Post by **Nomugie** » January 22nd, 2009, 10:34 pm

So, Elamonta, how did it go?

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