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rockford files training

Post by KR » December 31st, 2008, 9:45 pm

Guys, just curious on if you think rowing 5 days a week for 10K in about 50 minutes produces much physical benefits? been doing it for probably 2-3 months. (been watching the rockford files lately on dvd, one episode per session).

Benefits to me would include being stronger aerobically on the bicycle and getting the "ripped" look. (But I can't row enough to keep up with all that I eat, so the rip looked is buried under fat...)

Thanks for your opinions,

KR

2007 2k time: 6:39.8
2008 2k time: 6:45.6
2009: ain't doing it

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Post by Citroen » December 31st, 2008, 10:07 pm

KR wrote:10K in about 50 minutes

2007 2k time: 6:39.8
2008 2k time: 6:45.6
2009: ain't doing it
Those number don't match. They're at completely opposite ends of the ballpark.

10K in 50mins is slower than the average 70 year old. You'd need to be closer to 36mins for 10K to be near your old 2K times.
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Post by Elamonta » December 31st, 2008, 10:58 pm

I think that was his question...given that he is rowing them in 50mins would indicate (and would make sense if watching a show) that its not nearly taxing enough. Yeah...50mins of cardio is still better than sitting on your butt watching television, but I would argue if your 2k time is still sub 7 at this point...lowering those 10k times down to AT LEAST a sub 40min should still be moderately easy for you.

I think that would be slightly more beneficial...just my two cents though...I could jog very easily for 50mins every day and see bodily response A...but running a little faster would produce B which would be better to "get ripped" I would assume.

Best of luck.

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Post by KR » January 8th, 2009, 11:16 pm

elamonta, thanks thats a valid answer.

i guess the question boils down to if you use an erg fairly sub-aerobically, is there any significant muscle growth or toning? i think there is some...

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Post by Nosmo » January 9th, 2009, 3:31 pm

Of course there is some benefit but really why go that slow? You would get far more benefit if you did it faster with almost no difficulty. Second why would you want to row 50 minutes every day?
If you goal is to watch TV then your doing fine. If you goal is to get some exercise you could get more benefit in much less time.

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Post by Ducatista » January 10th, 2009, 1:58 pm

KR wrote:i guess the question boils down to if you use an erg fairly sub-aerobically, is there any significant muscle growth or toning?
Fairly sub-aerobically? That must be more like near-comatosically for you.

I'm a 43yo out-of-shape woman rowing purely for fat burning and maybe a little endurance boost, and I can churn merrily away (OK, merrily might be stretching it) for 90 minutes at that pace, after having rowed 0 meters all season until the HC.

Averaging about 10K/day since Thanksgiving, I have gotten significant muscle growth/toning. But I started out from a whole different place than sub-7 2K.

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Post by Cazneau » January 11th, 2009, 6:23 pm

It's good for you like going for a daily walk is good for you. It burns some calories that might otherwise go on the love handles. It is certainly better than not doing it. But it probably isn't going to get you "ripped."

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Post by KR » January 13th, 2009, 6:05 pm

well hell, you guys got me thinking i need to go harder now, and that will lead to doing the damn (and i mean damn) indoor again on jan 31, and i haven't specifically trained for it (speed work) and i am set up for failure depending on who shows up (the only spot that matters in #1) and i will go in and do it and probably grit out a 6:45- 6:50 or so and fail to win the gold, and then when its over i will have a sore throat, cough, and not row again until next september cause i can't stand the thought of it...

or i can rockford steadily for another month or two.

or i can be like lance:

http://www.livestrong.com/lance-armstro ... kout/5189/

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Post by Ducatista » January 13th, 2009, 6:48 pm

KR wrote:or i can be like lance:
I dunno... that disclaimer at the bottom of his site seems a little sketchy:

"More than one ball? Then YMMV."

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Post by KR » February 6th, 2009, 2:17 pm

season 1 is a lot better than season 4 of rockford... for what its worth.

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Post by KR » March 11th, 2009, 12:02 pm

hey still rowing a 10K every day, anybody want me on one of those challenge teams? i can pull down 70K a week or more, if needed.

working through season 2 of rockford currently, it's not bad.

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Post by iain » March 13th, 2009, 10:31 am

KR wrote:hey still rowing a 10K every day, anybody want me on one of those challenge teams? i can pull down 70K a week or more, if needed.

working through season 2 of rockford currently, it's not bad.
Free spirits would love to have you, see link in my signature.

Nothing wrong with what you're doing, I can understand not wanting to attempt sub-40's, but I would have thought that 2:09's (50% of power of top end of expected 2ks) should still allow you to watch the TV in relative comfort. I thought getting ripped was merely about getting body fat down. So with the right diet, your plan could work, but will be easier with a faster pace and more cals burnt.

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Post by djh » March 13th, 2009, 2:21 pm

Please take a look at that link. I get a 404 error.
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Post by iain » March 13th, 2009, 2:24 pm

djh wrote:Please take a look at that link. I get a 404 error.
Sorry about that, try the following:

http://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum/ ... d6da46389d

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