If I am forced to cox I'll be sure to hit a bridge
and TomR, I want to gain muscle mass, not really fat mass... if thats what you were getting at.
Dropping 2k?
A less dramatic way of getting out of coxing is to veer wildly towards the best boat on the river from your college, once they have taken evasive action a couple of times they are sure to get you removed. i also managed to get the bows stuck in an overhanging bank!EricD wrote:Thanks everyone.
If I am forced to cox I'll be sure to hit a bridge
and TomR, I want to gain muscle mass, not really fat mass... if thats what you were getting at.
Re tom's note. I think his point was that the best way to put on muscle is to keep the body in "Anabolic mode". The hormones that control utilising fat also inhibit muscle (and other protein) formation. So food should exceed that utilised. If you do put on some fat, this can be lost from increased exercise when you have bulked up.
Regards
Iain
Eric--
If you want to gain mass, you have to take in more calories than you burn.
Some of that mass will be lean. Some will be fat. The proportions will vary, depending on how you train and how hard you train. You're thin enough that you don't have to worry about getting fat. You've probably got the metabolism of a shrew.
So whomp down the food.
If you want to gain mass, you have to take in more calories than you burn.
Some of that mass will be lean. Some will be fat. The proportions will vary, depending on how you train and how hard you train. You're thin enough that you don't have to worry about getting fat. You've probably got the metabolism of a shrew.
So whomp down the food.
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If you want to gain a lot of weight, drink a gallon of milk a day. With your age though you have a lot to grow from, so just down as much food as you can, don't eat candy or drink coke, all stuff bad for you. Although this idea belongs with Starting Strength and is mainly a tool to get enough protein and fat into your body to continue strength gains, many people can gain 30 pounds in a month and a half from milk. If one of your goals was to get strong, then I would look into Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. That said, gallon of a milk a day will gain you weight.
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If your goal is strength, then go buy Starting Strength 2nd edition by Mark Rippetoe and Lon Kilgore. Like I said before, its a basic program where the goal is to gain strength. One of the best novice programs I've seen out there. A gallon of milk does seem a lot but that is 2400 calories alone without eating 3 to 4 big meals a day. Try to drink half a gallon a day and work your way up to a full gallon. If your committed, you will see gains. Email me if you have any questions, and I can do my best to help you out.
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Second the recommendation on Starting Strength. I used it over the summer and gained a solid 6-8 pounds of muscle, and a whole lot of strength. And this is from someone who started off the summer at around 18 Years 6'0 and 164 pounds, so I imagine you can make even greater gains. It's a fantastic program at adding strength, and if you eat enough mass as well. Just make sure to never be hungry. If I were you I would right now focus on getting a good aerobic base and working on technique, then over the winter hitthe weights hard and try to gain some mass. I have a friend who went from 150-185 in one year. Dropped his 5k split from a 1:58 to a 1:49 with very little aerobic work. It's a lot easier to pull harder after you've gained some weight.
Eric,
From the female perspective......
First - rowing is one of those sports you can do for decades. At 14, I know it seems like the kiss of death to be 5'8" and 114 but you've got a lot of growing to do. Even if you don't gain much in inches, you'll fill out - just do it the smart way. If you end up as a lightweight in a crew, so be it. Plenty of lightweight guys I know are better rowers than their heavyweight friends.
Second - Coxing IS NOT a bad thing. Yes, it seems like the curse of death but even if you end up coxing until you bulk up it will give you an edge in the long run. Cox's are the brains of the boat IMO - if you can master the technical side of coxing, then as you mature, master the rowing aspect, you've got yourself a real edge. Last thing the sport needs is another big guy who’s fast and strong but doesn’t know port from starboard and bow from stern.
Third - If you end up coxing, you can really endear yourself to the boat and make headway. I've had coxes who do nothing but gripe and moan about how slow we are how our technique is bad but when push came to shove, they couldn’t be bothered to lift a finger. I’ve also had coxes who fully participate with all land training – including erg tests, weights and running. Some coaches will want their coxes to be monitoring erg times etc so you might not get a chance to work out with the team, but try and make an effort.
A little story here – in college, the first year we recruited, our coach asked us how we felt about bring a new cox in. We were excited as she came from a well established program and had a record of winning. We did some winning that season but we struggled to adjust to her coxing style. Things went downhill for us when land training started. She refused to participate, refused to keep track of splits and times and rarely showed up for tests. When she did, she complained. I had no respect for her, I did not trust her to get me through a race and I know my teammates felt the same way. What really hurt was that she had been given one of only two scholarships and she was hardly deserving. At the end of the season, we sat down with coach and told him we would not row with her anymore. We’d rather take on a freshman with no experience but a willingness to learn and work hard even if it meant we were a slower boat the next year. The following year, our old cox lost her scholarship and then quit the team. We found a great girl in the freshman dorms, who was a green as could be and taught her from the ground up. That year was a rebuilding year for us but the following year, we won every race we entered and took home silver at Dad Vails – the first medal ever in the history of our school.
From the female perspective......
First - rowing is one of those sports you can do for decades. At 14, I know it seems like the kiss of death to be 5'8" and 114 but you've got a lot of growing to do. Even if you don't gain much in inches, you'll fill out - just do it the smart way. If you end up as a lightweight in a crew, so be it. Plenty of lightweight guys I know are better rowers than their heavyweight friends.
Second - Coxing IS NOT a bad thing. Yes, it seems like the curse of death but even if you end up coxing until you bulk up it will give you an edge in the long run. Cox's are the brains of the boat IMO - if you can master the technical side of coxing, then as you mature, master the rowing aspect, you've got yourself a real edge. Last thing the sport needs is another big guy who’s fast and strong but doesn’t know port from starboard and bow from stern.
Third - If you end up coxing, you can really endear yourself to the boat and make headway. I've had coxes who do nothing but gripe and moan about how slow we are how our technique is bad but when push came to shove, they couldn’t be bothered to lift a finger. I’ve also had coxes who fully participate with all land training – including erg tests, weights and running. Some coaches will want their coxes to be monitoring erg times etc so you might not get a chance to work out with the team, but try and make an effort.
A little story here – in college, the first year we recruited, our coach asked us how we felt about bring a new cox in. We were excited as she came from a well established program and had a record of winning. We did some winning that season but we struggled to adjust to her coxing style. Things went downhill for us when land training started. She refused to participate, refused to keep track of splits and times and rarely showed up for tests. When she did, she complained. I had no respect for her, I did not trust her to get me through a race and I know my teammates felt the same way. What really hurt was that she had been given one of only two scholarships and she was hardly deserving. At the end of the season, we sat down with coach and told him we would not row with her anymore. We’d rather take on a freshman with no experience but a willingness to learn and work hard even if it meant we were a slower boat the next year. The following year, our old cox lost her scholarship and then quit the team. We found a great girl in the freshman dorms, who was a green as could be and taught her from the ground up. That year was a rebuilding year for us but the following year, we won every race we entered and took home silver at Dad Vails – the first medal ever in the history of our school.