LUNA-TICS TEAM ROOM: Year-round "Looney" fun.

A member of an indoor rowing team or club? If so, this is the place for you.

Can this one team row to the moon and back?

Poll ended at May 17th, 2008, 12:28 pm

I think we can do it together. I'm all in!
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No way! You all are wacko!
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Total votes: 54

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Post by Toothdoc » August 31st, 2011, 4:42 pm

Hi Ya'll,
Greetings from the sunny south. It has been awhile since I have posted anything but I suspect you know the reason why. LOL For all the new members I went in for a triple by-pass on Aug. 15th(Officially known as a Cabs X 3 pronounce cabbage) and came out a cabs X 6 . CABS = coronary-artery-by-pass surgery. When Jeanne heard about the cabbage she started calling her "Mon petite chou"

Before I get to far into this I would like to thank all my Looney team-mates for their prayers, good wishes and healing thoughts. They seeemed to have worked as promised. You guys and gals are the best!

Immediately after surgery I went to recovery for the waking up process. Everything at this point was normal,so normal that they moved right to CCICU. From this point until about 18-19 everything is kinda of a blear. All I remember for sure is all that great early progress went sideways. The two main problems being breathing and an allergy to the steri-strips they use to close the incisions in my legs.It was a contact allergy with no systemic affects but my legs and feet did some serious swelling and there were at least least 50 blisters the size of marbles. If you want a picture send me your email address. I don't want to gross out the whole team.

I think I would have been content to deal with it all if I had had some decent food. Such was not the case until I coomplained to may cariologist and he said I could have anything I wanted, that day I hand a Subway for lunch and my attitude immediately improved. A day later my best friend friend frought beef and pork braciole and baked ziti. 3 days later I getting ready to head home.

By now the blisters were starting to burst and the continuos oozing blood was starting to slow down. But the Princess says nada to coming home until it has stopped. At first I thought she was being a little bitchy, but as it turned out it was a good call. I was soaking 2-3 gowns, many sheets and disposible bed pads everyday. At one point I lost enough blood they had to transfuse me with 2 pints of packed cells.

Well anyway, made it home on the 24th feeliing like I'd been run over by a tank. The next day started the procession of home nurse and PT. But I guess it is all worth. When I first got home all I could do was walk to the bathroom and back. Today 1 week later I have showered, cooked myself 2 meals been up and down the stairs, done my PT and and had 2 x 3 minute supporvisioned works and it's only 4 PM. Cooking on the grill tonight and maybe starting the baking process for some rustic Italian bread.

To sum up Ross was corrrect, progress is not lineat I am just now starting to see the upward slope on increase improvement. A friend told he talked to 4 or 5 people who had had the same operation and he said everyone told him on day 21 Post-op it was like someone flipped a switch and they started feeling remarkably better. It is now day 16......

danno

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Post by bg » August 31st, 2011, 5:17 pm

Toothdoc wrote:Hi Ya'll,
Greetings from the sunny south. It has been awhile since I have posted anything but I suspect you know the reason why. LOL For all the new members I went in for a triple by-pass on Aug. 15th(Officially known as a Cabs X 3 pronounce cabbage) and came out a cabs X 6 . CABS = coronary-artery-by-pass surgery. When Jeanne heard about the cabbage she started calling her "Mon petite chou"

Before I get to far into this I would like to thank all my Looney team-mates for their prayers, good wishes and healing thoughts. They seeemed to have worked as promised. You guys and gals are the best!

Immediately after surgery I went to recovery for the waking up process. Everything at this point was normal,so normal that they moved right to CCICU. From this point until about 18-19 everything is kinda of a blear. All I remember for sure is all that great early progress went sideways. The two main problems being breathing and an allergy to the steri-strips they use to close the incisions in my legs.It was a contact allergy with no systemic affects but my legs and feet did some serious swelling and there were at least least 50 blisters the size of marbles. If you want a picture send me your email address. I don't want to gross out the whole team.

I think I would have been content to deal with it all if I had had some decent food. Such was not the case until I coomplained to may cariologist and he said I could have anything I wanted, that day I hand a Subway for lunch and my attitude immediately improved. A day later my best friend friend frought beef and pork braciole and baked ziti. 3 days later I getting ready to head home.

By now the blisters were starting to burst and the continuos oozing blood was starting to slow down. But the Princess says nada to coming home until it has stopped. At first I thought she was being a little bitchy, but as it turned out it was a good call. I was soaking 2-3 gowns, many sheets and disposible bed pads everyday. At one point I lost enough blood they had to transfuse me with 2 pints of packed cells.

Well anyway, made it home on the 24th feeliing like I'd been run over by a tank. The next day started the procession of home nurse and PT. But I guess it is all worth. When I first got home all I could do was walk to the bathroom and back. Today 1 week later I have showered, cooked myself 2 meals been up and down the stairs, done my PT and and had 2 x 3 minute supporvisioned works and it's only 4 PM. Cooking on the grill tonight and maybe starting the baking process for some rustic Italian bread.

To sum up Ross was corrrect, progress is not lineat I am just now starting to see the upward slope on increase improvement. A friend told he talked to 4 or 5 people who had had the same operation and he said everyone told him on day 21 Post-op it was like someone flipped a switch and they started feeling remarkably better. It is now day 16......

danno

thanks for the update and hang in there danno.....

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Post by BAZzy » August 31st, 2011, 6:19 pm

Great to hear from you Dano, take care!

Cheers, BBB
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Post by BAZzy » August 31st, 2011, 6:33 pm

DavidA wrote:
macbruce1 wrote:...
I rowed today and what a difference without the fan :!: Heart rate was about 5% higher and speed about 10% slower.
That is why you need a C-Breeze. It makes a big difference. I see the same sort of difference in speed when I row at the gym, with no fan or C-Breeze, and when I row at home, with no fan, but with a C-Breeze.

I glad you're doing okay.

David
I usually use a standard ‘house’ fan, but will be investing in a much larger industrial type version as we head into our warmer months. I find my performance definitely drops as the body heats.

Oddly enough was up in the ‘boat shed’ this morning at 4.30am, was down to shorts only and a fan and still sweating, and it is technically still winter... Mind you there was some cloud cover.

And talking about recovery, Janet has stocked up on the all important (all purpose) Vegemite ahead of the ‘Fall’ challenge, in fact if it wasn’t for the fact it has such a high salt content I’d be recommending it to Danno as part of his recovery diet!

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Post by bg » September 1st, 2011, 4:23 am

macbruce1 wrote:
rosita wrote:Welcome to the team Kim! and also everyone else who has joined the past few weeks. Have fun with the Luna-Tics :D
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Yes Welcome Kim and all the people I have missed while dealing with the aftermath of Irene. We are still without power and running our generator intermittently and our DSL keeps going off so I'm not as update as I should be.
I rowed today and what a difference without the fan :!: Heart rate was about 5% higher and speed about 10% slower.
If any of you have been watching the news, you know that Vermont got hit really hard by Irene. I complain about the power, but really I am very lucky. So many lost so much :cry:
Best wishes to our new members :!: Great to have Rosi, Gabby and Ronnie back :D
Still channeling healing thoughts your way Danno :)
Take Care All,
Ron
hope you get your power back soon.....so sad to read about the destruction from irene,,,,


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Post by j1415 » September 1st, 2011, 9:14 am

I have my rower in the basement which is always cooler.
Shirtless and still sweating like a tropical storm.
But we all like to push our numbers, don't we? Just a little better today...
I usually row after some coffee and water, but before breakfast.
Who else rows on an empty stomach?
Advice?

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Post by Kona2 » September 1st, 2011, 9:55 am

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Woohoo and hooyah! Congratulations, Jay, on achieving a TWO million meter rowing season (and only one-third of the rowing year is used up!)!! We wish you many, MANY more !

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Post by ronnie1 » September 1st, 2011, 11:15 am

j1415 wrote:I have my rower in the basement which is always cooler.
Shirtless and still sweating like a tropical storm.
But we all like to push our numbers, don't we? Just a little better today...
I usually row after some coffee and water, but before breakfast.
Who else rows on an empty stomach?
Advice?
Zander and I row early morning with just a cup of tea drank. We often have breakfast afterwards. We each do another workout of some kind later in day , weights resistance, or cardio.

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All In A Day's ERG: Team Progress Thru 8.31.11

Post by Kona2 » September 1st, 2011, 11:56 am

Image Two weeks from today....FTC...

Great to have a first hand account from Vermonter Ron on impacts of Irene! Your description of hauling water in carboys...it's amazing how much water we need at a minimum for a single day. Hauling water really brings home what that number is for each family. Whoa.

Sounds like one of our new teammates (Kim?) is definitely a morning person....rowing pre-breakfast! I can't offer any advice on that topic, but am sure that we have several teammates who are not only morning people, but morning rowers! Update: and look at that! Several have already answered !

Welcome back to Image Zander - must admit that the Image graphic is one of my favorites. :D

Season meters as of 124/365 = 36,750,630 m

Total meters on the day = 1,123,005 m

Oars in space (participation) = 30 percent


MILESTONES...Bragging Rights...Celebrations: Milestone Bonanza!!

2.0 MM Jay
1.45 MM Minnie
1.3 MM Gabby
900 K Ross
300 K Kevin
150 K Carolyn
70 K Kaylee


Image Million Meter Watch: The million meter herd is growing !

Ross with (97,538 m) to go! Woot !

Baz with (107,500 m) to go!

AJ with (144,769 m) to go!


And more and more teammates are approaching the start of their own countdown to a million: next up is Charles B, so far! Way to row, everyone !! Being part of a team, and the challenges, seems to get all of us farther than we thought we could!

Thanks to all who rowed today ! Stellar ! Absolutely stellar !

Ashlee 750 m
Kaylee 750 m
Mario Jackson 1,400 m
Tris 1,600 m
Peter G 2,000 m
Marty 2,100 m
Jim 2,500 m
Tammy 2,500 m
Jeff M 2,613 m
Tony ImageImageImageImage m ...Image :D
Harold 4,000 m
Chip 4,184 m
Tom M 5,167 m
Bruce 5,927 m
Dan E 8.142 m :D
Benny 10,000 m ... wowzer!
Charles B 10,217 m
Ross 10,244 m
Ronnie 10,800 m
Roger 11,000 m :shock:
Gabby 12,000 m
Rosi 12,000 m
Baz 12,500 m
David A 14,372 m
Minnie 15,666 m
Jay 16,000 m
Image Ron 26,097 m
Kevin 29,000 m ... a fine update!
Carolyn 29,614 m ... another fine update!
Zander 856,529 m

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Post by brotherjim » September 1st, 2011, 1:10 pm

September 01, 2011


How Aging Slows Our Bodies, and How Exercise Slows Aging



After the age of 20, older generally means weaker and slower; and after the age of 60, older means quite a bit weaker and slower. The Los Angeles Times reports on what, exactly, happens to our bodies: motor neurons die, which causes connections between muscle fibers to wither, wait, there's more, large, elastic arteries including the aorta (which shuttles blood from the heart) and the carotid artery (which feeds blood to the brain) get stiffer; wear and tear builds up on the joints, connective tissue becomes less elastic, and lubricating fluids decline; and on which exercises are most useful for preventing the weakening and slowing. Michael Joyner, a professor of anesthesiology and an exercise researcher at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, tells the Times that cross-training — doing a mix of high- and low-impact exercises such as weight training, yoga and cycling — works different muscle groups and can reduce the risk of orthopedic injuries from overuse. And to prevent artery stiffening, Douglas Seals, a physiologist at the University of Colorado at Boulder, says exercise is as good as anything known to science. The Times reports that, for 21 years, researchers at Stanford University have studied the effects of consistent exercise on 284 runners 50 and older. In a 2002 article in the Archives of Internal Medicine, they reported that — 13 years into the study — a control group of 156 similar people who exercised much less on the whole than the runners had a 3.3 times higher death rate than runners as well as higher rates of disabilities. In 2008, they reported that after 19 years, 15 percent of runners had died, compared with 34% of the control group. After 21 years, runners had significantly lower disability levels than non-runners; their death rates from cardiovascular events, cancer and neurologic disorders were much lower than in non-runners — 65 of the runners had died of cardiovascular, neurologic and cancer events compared with 98 deaths in the control group.

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Re: LUNA-TICS TEAM ROOM: Year-round "Looney" fun.

Post by j1415 » September 1st, 2011, 1:19 pm

macbruce1 wrote:
j1415 wrote:I have my rower in the basement which is always cooler.
Shirtless and still sweating like a tropical storm.
But we all like to push our numbers, don't we? Just a little better today...
I usually row after some coffee and water, but before breakfast.
Who else rows on an empty stomach?
Advice?
My rower is in the basement too. I've read that your body actually cools faster if your wearing something like a running singlet. It draws the moisture from the skin and aids in evaporation. With my work schedule, I never was able to row in the morning. I row in the late afternoon, early evening and I make sure I have plenty of my "home made gatorade". Unless your going for ultra distances, your muscles should have plenty of glycogen stored without eating anything.
Even in the basement with the fan going, like you, I sweat like crazy. After most rowing sessions those little holes in the C2 rowing pad have turned into little "sweat ponds" :? I know TMI :lol:
Ron
Homemade gatorade? Rowing pad? Do tell!

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Post by just27 » September 1st, 2011, 2:21 pm

brotherjim wrote: How Aging Slows Our Bodies, and How Exercise Slows Aging: After the age of 20, older generally means weaker and slower; and after the age of 60, older means quite a bit weaker and slower ... motor neurons die, which causes connections between muscle fibers to wither ... arteries ... get stiffer; wear and tear builds up on the joints, connective tissue becomes less elastic, and lubricating fluids decline ...
Waah? No wonder I'm feeling weaker and slower ... all those dead neurons and withering muscles!

All continuing best wishes to Ron, and to Danno, dealing with their challenges.

Welcome to new team mates, and those returning members who had been lost-in-space. After enjoying several days at the beach (why don't I live on the coast, I love the ocean!??), I had to review the past few pages to fill in the dots. All kinds of new and interesting people, and threads to consider!

I am not a morning person and row after dinner, usually somewhere between 8pm and midnight. I make a sports drink mix when planning a marathon, but drink plain water at other times.

Both of these homemade sports drinks are very similar to Gatorade:

Sports Drink 1
10 T sugar
3/4 t sea salt (or Mortons Lite salt for less potassium)
1 pkg unsweetened Koolade (optional)
2 liters water

Sports Drink 2
1/2 C orange juice
9 T sugar
3/8 t salt
2 liters water

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Post by Kristine Strasburger » September 1st, 2011, 3:52 pm

Glad to see you are back at home now, Doctor Dan!
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Re: Seatpads, Memory Foam and Gloves

Post by Kona2 » September 1st, 2011, 4:02 pm

From the Lunie archives - and some from the website of JL Racing (a supplier that Concept2 uses):

Sooner or later many teammates are going to row some longer distances, and depending upon the person, they're going to wish for more seat padding.

We've talked about several options for seat padding (other than that which might be there naturally): sorbothane, gel, bubble wrap and memory foam.

From Danno: Just a quick observation on seat cushions. I have tried everything and so far the best solution is a 14.5" x 9.5" x 4" piece of memory foam. It seems a little weird when you first sit down but by the time you have strapped your feet in it has compressed and gives a comfortable yet solid base to sit on. I also cover it with a small towel. Hope this helps.


Citroen, a helpful fellow from Sub-7 UK team, provided this link to a discussion held on their forum site - (this issue knows no international boundaries!) http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21971

Seat Pads

A couple of months ago, we revisited discussions about seatpads for the Concept2 erg. Gina first brought these to our attention (I think) when she went to a regatta in Long Beach. JL Racing was the supplier for sorbothane seat pads and gel seat pads. Some team members have the sorbothane seatpads and seem to like these.

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Sorbothane seat pads

The Sore-No-More Advantages: Sorbothane Seat Pad review by Tom (don't remember where this came from)
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1. Durability. The half life on this substance must be over 10,000 years. Made out of a rubber-like substance, you can roll, bend, fold, and crunch these pads without tearing them. At the end of the day, it folds back out to its original shape.

2. Thin yet comfortable. Everyone's seen those seat pads that raise you up about 2 inches on your seat. Good luck clearing your hands and balancing the boat that way! The sore-no-more is amazingly thin -- less then 1/4 of an inch -- and yet it is softer than any foam pad I've ever used. Plus it won't grow compressed and hard on the pressure points like foam pads.

3. Sticky. The sore-no-more manages to stick to every seat I've ever placed it on -- no need for tape to keep this guy attached.


So don't be fooled by a sense of false economy -- the sore-no-more is ten times as expensive as the foam pads, but I promise you that the $40 is money well spent.


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JeLpads



We developed this Gel-filled beauty, just for your butt! And the great news is, IT FLOATS!!!

* Rugged polyproplene laminated to neoprene seating surface.
* Non-skid backing on bottom, stays put on your seat
* Gel-filled inner core with permanent memory
* 11 3/4" at widest part
* fits on both sculling and sweep seats
* It floats!
* Tag with space for your name.
* Webbing loop so you can tie it to your axle for extra security.
* 11 3/4" at widest part


More good stuff

* Reduced pressure points on sit bones.
* Gel-filling distributes pressure evenly.
* Added comfort improves rowing experience and increases endurance.


Now bicycling has certainly had its moments to teach about gel seat covers. As such, I was particularly interested in the JeL seatpad offered by JL racing. Barbara wanted to know if it was something that permanently adhered to the rowing machine seat – because, if so, she was out of luck since she uses a rower at a gym.

The Jelpad floats. Unless we have a flood in the basement, I’m probably safe in not needing that feature, but these are designed to be used in by people like Karyn who get out on the water. And Chris, if AJ loses the gel seat over the side of the kayak, well it will be easier to find as it floats on by. I wanted to have options of using this in outdoor rowing.


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The flip side of the gel pad shows that it has a grippy kind of material (and a name tag so that when you leave it on the seat of the rower, someone will return it to you!). It doesn’t permanently adhere to the seat, but it doesn’t slip around either.

GLOVES

And, while we're at it, some people also like to use gloves. Check out http://www.NewGrip.com - they have rowing gloves that feel a little funky at first, but you'll like them.

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