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Post by Bloodbuzz Corio » April 15th, 2016, 12:18 pm

Folks,

Having a day off exercise today but think on the weekend I might sign up for the CTC in Forum Flyers and have a first crack at the April challenge if that's cool with y'all. Have been massively enjoying the erging I've been doing over the last few weeks and reckon the variety of the challenges could be great going forward.

Going to sign up as (H) - last couple of weigh ins have been strictly under 75kg - but that's always been first thing in the a.m. and reckon after a couple of meals I'm often over the edge! :?

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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by hjs » April 15th, 2016, 12:44 pm

Bloodbuzz Corio wrote:Folks,

Having a day off exercise today but think on the weekend I might sign up for the CTC in Forum Flyers and have a first crack at the April challenge if that's cool with y'all. Have been massively enjoying the erging I've been doing over the last few weeks and reckon the variety of the challenges could be great going forward.

Going to sign up as (H) - last couple of weigh ins have been strictly under 75kg - but that's always been first thing in the a.m. and reckon after a couple of meals I'm often over the edge! :?

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Very welcome. With your weight you should (imo) to be sub 75 when you do the ctc or any ranked piece. You don,t have to be sub 75 al the time, only at weigh in.

You can also have two profiles. A H and a L.

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Post by Bloodbuzz Corio » April 15th, 2016, 3:12 pm

Thanks Henry,

How do weigh ins work for something like the CTC when I'm just doing it myself - weigh myself some set time before the row but then am allowed to drink after that?

Actually I found this which suggest weigh in can be no earlier than 2 hours before the race - so I could apply this to CTC as well?
http://www.concept2.co.uk/indoor-rowers ... quirements

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Post by hjs » April 15th, 2016, 3:23 pm

Bloodbuzz Corio wrote:Thanks Henry,

How do weigh ins work for something like the CTC when I'm just doing it myself - weigh myself some set time before the row but then am allowed to drink after that (or not)?

Apologies if this is called out somewhere - had a bit of a look around but couldn't really find anything on it.

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Rohan, the whole Ctc is based on thrust, if someone wants to cheat, they can.

Proberly best is to use the racing protocol, on racing day, you weigh in a few hours before racing. At home its the same, be sub 75 before you start you erg. Most sports with weigh ins, do this dehydrated, after weigh in, they eat and drink plenty and are above the limit. And thats fine.
For yourself, you know when you are on weight. Cheating is mostly fooling yourself, which would feel wrong.
And again, it should not be a problem to be on weight for you, if needed get a tad leaner.

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Post by Bloodbuzz Corio » April 15th, 2016, 3:35 pm

Henry thanks again and I must have edited my post while you were typing your reply - so apologies for any confusion!

Absolutely take your point on the CTC being done by trust - but good to have some guidance on the sensible approach here around weighing in - which between your reply and the link I included in my edited post I'm comfortable I have now.

I'm actually not unhappy with my current weight - but having said that I certainly wouldn't waste waste away if I weighed a tad less - so avoiding any confusion by doing these events at <= 75.0kg seems like a good plan!
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Post by Bloodbuzz Corio » April 17th, 2016, 1:48 pm

Right I'm in!

73.5kg when I weighed myself at the gym before hopping on the erg - so no dramas with the L for this one.

5,226 for an average of 1:54.8 (the four intervals had averages of 1:54.9, 1:54.8, 1:54.7, 1:54.7).

So this is only ~0.8s better than my 5k PB pace - would most people be aiming for a bigger difference than that given the rests? I did have one or two more drinks than was ideal last night, but this really hurt quite a lot. Not sure I'll be rushing back to do it again in a hurry! :shock:
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Post by lindsayh » April 17th, 2016, 6:01 pm

Bloodbuzz Corio wrote: 5,226 for an average of 1:54.8 (the four intervals had averages of 1:54.9, 1:54.8, 1:54.7, 1:54.7).
So this is only ~0.8s better than my 5k PB pace - would most people be aiming for a bigger difference than that given the rests? I did have one or two more drinks than was ideal last night, but this really hurt quite a lot. Not sure I'll be rushing back to do it again in a hurry! :shock:
That is pretty good Rohan and nicely paced so that you were stronger on the last 2 where it is important (something I didn't do so well).
Some are 1-3"/500 faster than 5km pace but just under is a good guide - mine was the same as the 5km PB I did last year.
No need to do that again! (but it is a nice bit of training I think)
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Post by jackarabit » April 17th, 2016, 8:20 pm

Got two days rest after the WEC and felt optimistic about improving my CTC. I was going to try 2:08-9 flat FCOL!! Went out too hot on the short bit and paid down the line. I was close to cooked about 3' into the 8' and barely managed to limit the damage by taking two long strokes and then a 3/4 to reassert pace for "just another minute and another and another . . . Wasn't pretty. 1:58.6. 2:05. 2:06.9 2:08.6. 175 rest meters.
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Post by jackarabit » April 17th, 2016, 9:01 pm

Rottix2, I missed your post earlier. Welcome to Forvm Flvers. I don't think you caught the Flyers bus for the World Erg Challenge just ended, did you? Or maybe you did? There were one or two late joiners. The meter total challenges are a motivator to get some serious volume In preparation for a full marathon. Did you register for the c2 Cross Team Challenge also? Jack
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Post by hjs » April 18th, 2016, 3:59 am

lindsayh wrote:
Bloodbuzz Corio wrote: 5,226 for an average of 1:54.8 (the four intervals had averages of 1:54.9, 1:54.8, 1:54.7, 1:54.7).
So this is only ~0.8s better than my 5k PB pace - would most people be aiming for a bigger difference than that given the rests? I did have one or two more drinks than was ideal last night, but this really hurt quite a lot. Not sure I'll be rushing back to do it again in a hurry! :shock:
That is pretty good Rohan and nicely paced so that you were stronger on the last 2 where it is important (something I didn't do so well).
Some are 1-3"/500 faster than 5km pace but just under is a good guide - mine was the same as the 5km PB I did last year.
No need to do that again! (but it is a nice bit of training I think)
Short rest, so not much to gain on our 5k time. 1 second below 5k seems a hard effort, if its more you can have a go at your 5k imo.

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Post by rottix2 » April 18th, 2016, 1:52 pm

Jackarabit - Yup. I know the challenge just ended. I had signed up a day or two after it started but had some trouble getting signed on to the forum to introduce myself. My goal was to row at least 100,000 meters in the challenge which I was able to do so all is good in my world. :D

I will be running in the Poconos Marathon next month and I find rowing a great cross training exercise.

I am not sure what the c2 Cross Team Challenge is. Will have to take a look and see.

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Post by Fiona » April 18th, 2016, 2:24 pm

jackarabit wrote:Have a go, Papy. Nobody is fooled by the old Belgian dude, Raymond, with the gasper. You may be our secret weapon! :wink:

Fiona, did you do better on your second try than on your current run? I recall a 2:26.x in the pace column. If so, put that one back up and make your mates happy!
I'm not sure how this all works on the monthly challenge so sorry if I've messed things up. :)
Just back from being away for work so will be back at it this week trying to redeem myself! :D
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Post by jackarabit » April 18th, 2016, 4:35 pm

No redemption necessary, Fiona. You floated a boat! I could easily be wrong about your earlier entry being better than the current one. If the first (or second?) is in the monitor memory of a rower at home or at gym, or on a logcard or paper log where it can be recalled, a check will reveal whether you went further previously. I looked at pace rather than distance but it's all same same. No biggy; we don't get paid to suffer like a dog, and if we did get paid, we wouldn't want the job,
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Post by jackarabit » April 18th, 2016, 4:45 pm

Phyllis, way to roll up the meters on the WEC! I misinterpreted marathon as an erg marathon. Good luck with the pavement pounding sort in the Poconos! Diabolical monthly erg challenges @ http://www.c2ctc.com
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Post by Papy » April 19th, 2016, 1:02 pm

I have registered for a 2k race at a local rowing club on May 1st, for the "East of England" IRC. I am waiting for full confirmation and race planning but I registered as a Forum Flyers member, i'll try to make the name proud :mrgreen:

Quick technical question: considering it is on Sunday week already, what do I need to do in terms of tapering the training, just taking it easy in the 4-5 days before the race ? Also, I seem to recollect some mentions of doing a 1,250m and a 750m a few days before that at 80-90% to have a clear picture of the pace for race days that correct ?

My PB is at 7'41 at 1.55.7 split. Considering I now got the 500m down to 1'36.9 and I can keep 4 easy intervals with 1'r within the 1'48-1'52 range, I am thinking to go 1.52 / 1.51 / 1.50 / all out. How does that sound ?

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