Slides And Lower Back Pain

[[old] dikndi]

I just got my slides, for the first few rows I only did 6k rows (usual is 10k) However, I experienced some mild lower back pain and tightness in my hamstrings. <br /><br />Is this normal?

[[old] dikndi]

Update.<br /><br />I tried the slides a gain after a break, the back pain has gone, but the tight hamstrings remain. More than likely style problems. One thing I did notice was tht it didnt work the abdominal and shoulder muscles as much as staionary rowing does. As I row for all round fitness I am starting to think about selling them.<br /><br />Slides seem to be good for the rowere who is serious about on-water rowing and thier times. For an all body workout-they seem to be to efficient

[[old] Mark Keating]

<!--QuoteBegin-dikndi+Aug 8 2005, 12:27 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dikndi @ Aug 8 2005, 12:27 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Update.<br /><br />I tried the slides a gain after a break, the back pain has gone, but the tight hamstrings remain. More than likely style problems. One thing I did notice was tht it didnt work the abdominal and shoulder muscles as much as staionary rowing does. As I row for all round fitness I am starting to think about selling them.<br /><br />Slides seem to be good for the rowere who is serious about on-water rowing and thier times. For an all body workout-they seem to be to efficient <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I have no experience with slides so I can't help you with your question. But if you are seriously considering selling them put me first in line!<br /><br />Mark

[[old] Alissa]

Before you decide to sell your slides, you might want to check into <a href='http://www.gorow.com/indoor_rowing_DVD.htm' target='_blank'>Xeno Muller's DVDs</a> which have had good reviews here, for instance: <br /><br />(Byron Drachman @ Jul 30 2005, 05:14 PM)<br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Have you tried Xeno Muller's DVD #2, the upper body workout? It works on core strength and flexibility.  I think it is a fabulous workout. Well, all four of the DVD's are great, but the upper body workout strikes me as one that would especially appeal to people who like to work with weights.<br /><br />Byron </td></tr></table><br /><br />and then in response to the first...<br /><br />Roger R @ Aug 3 2005, 08:09 PM)<br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That's exactly what I do. I have focussed on rowing over time and abondened weigth training. I find that using the C2 with slides and Xeno's DVD's provides for all I need in terms of CV fitness and strength development. I have reduced my waistline, improved my lat muscles and also increased leg muscles. What I like is that my body looks lean and toned in a very natural way. The upper body strength DVD provides a perfect strength workout that I do ca. 2x a week in addition to other rowing workouts (long pieces, interval, etc.) and 15 - 20min stretching with every rowing session.<br /><br />Due to heavy workload and family commitments I can only exercise early in the morning between 5:30am and 7am. The C2 provides all one needs to develop great CV and strength fitness. </td></tr></table><br /><br />It seems like a shame to give us the slides when you're enjoying using them; especially when you can get a good upper body workout using them...<br /><br />HTH<br /><br />Alissa

[[old] tditmar]

<!--QuoteBegin-dikndi+Aug 8 2005, 12:27 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dikndi @ Aug 8 2005, 12:27 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Update.<br /><br />I tried the slides a gain after a break, the back pain has gone, but the tight hamstrings remain. More than likely style problems. One thing I did notice was tht it didnt work the abdominal and shoulder muscles as much as staionary rowing does. As I row for all round fitness I am starting to think about selling them.<br /><br />Slides seem to be good for the rowere who is serious about on-water rowing and thier times. For an all body workout-they seem to be to efficient <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />My experience is the opposite for the "core" muscles using slides. I think they come even more into play, and it feels that way to me as well. You may be correct about the shoulders, but it should be a primarily core workout.<br /><br />I believe the idea behind the erg is to mimic actual rowing. The explanation I received on this forum that really helped me to understand the difference between with or without slides is "with slides," you are rowing the weight of the machine and "without slides," you are rowing an infinitely heavy boat. I believe one of the Pauls gave that example, and with it you can imagine how the risk for back injury is greater "without." You are still doing as much work on the slides.

[[old] Xeno]

<!--QuoteBegin-dikndi+Aug 1 2005, 10:48 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dikndi @ Aug 1 2005, 10:48 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I just got my slides, for the first few rows I only did 6k rows (usual is 10k) However, I experienced some mild lower back pain and tightness in my hamstrings. <br /><br />Is this normal? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi <br />Hamstring pain is normal. You are using them to move back up to the catch. Your hipflexor may be pulling on your lower back too. In order to improve this condition, try to sit up from the lower back and hinge from the hip joint.<br />I hope this helps.<br />XENO

[[old] dikndi]

Thanks Xeno<br /><br />I just purchased your total body workour vid. My rowing has been going downhill for the last few months, hence the reason for buying the slides.<br /><br />I used to do 10k a day at about 38mins at 1.54-53 pace. recently I struggle to do it in 40min at 1.59 pace.<br /><br />Hopefuly the video will re-inspire me.<br />