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Posted: January 30th, 2005, 11:31 am
by [old] brianric
I just looked at my monthly totals on the PM3 log card for December and January, both showed 655,350 meters.<br /><br />Meters actually rowed:<br />December 675,532 meters<br />January 669,667 meters<br /><br />Anyone else notice the bug?

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Posted: January 30th, 2005, 11:53 am
by [old] Steve_R
<!--QuoteBegin-brianric+Jan 30 2005, 10:31 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(brianric @ Jan 30 2005, 10:31 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->both showed 655,350 meters. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Interesting number...very close to 10*2^16 which is 655360. Maybe you found a database field limitation?<br /><br />Steve

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Posted: January 31st, 2005, 10:20 am
by [old] c2scott
<!--QuoteBegin-Steve_R+Jan 30 2005, 10:53 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Steve_R @ Jan 30 2005, 10:53 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-brianric+Jan 30 2005, 10:31 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(brianric @ Jan 30 2005, 10:31 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->both showed 655,350 meters. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Interesting number...very close to 10*2^16 which is 655360. Maybe you found a database field limitation?<br /><br />Steve <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hi -- <br /><br />I guess I would not call it a bug -- more of a "Design Limit". Concept2 had to make some decisions about "reasonable limits" versus "LogCard Life Expectancy". One of the decisions was that the majority of our users would not row over 650,000 meters. The small difference you see is due to the 10m increments it is stored in to keep it in a 2-byte number. <br /><br />We certainly could have decided to make this limit higher, and do a dozen other things that really only impact a small percentage of our users -- however if you sum them up you would end up with a LogCard that stores much less data...<br /><br />-- Scott<br /><br />

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Posted: February 1st, 2005, 9:04 pm
by [old] peterb
<!--QuoteBegin-c2scott+Jan 31 2005, 10:20 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(c2scott @ Jan 31 2005, 10:20 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Steve_R+Jan 30 2005, 10:53 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Steve_R @ Jan 30 2005, 10:53 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-brianric+Jan 30 2005, 10:31 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(brianric @ Jan 30 2005, 10:31 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->both showed 655,350 meters. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Interesting number...very close to 10*2^16 which is 655360. Maybe you found a database field limitation?<br /><br />Steve <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hi -- <br /><br />I guess I would not call it a bug -- more of a "Design Limit". Concept2 had to make some decisions about "reasonable limits" versus "LogCard Life Expectancy". One of the decisions was that the majority of our users would not row over 650,000 meters. The small difference you see is due to the 10m increments it is stored in to keep it in a 2-byte number. <br /><br />We certainly could have decided to make this limit higher, and do a dozen other things that really only impact a small percentage of our users -- however if you sum them up you would end up with a LogCard that stores much less data...<br /><br />-- Scott <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Scott, <br /><br />I think you might have a little bigger problem than you described above. I had the same reading (655360) show up midway through January. During the month I rowed approx 175,000M with total lifetime card meters of around 1,500,000M.<br /><br />I'd be glad to give you a call if you want to review the issue in greater detail. Thanks in advance for your assistance.<br /><br />peterb

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Posted: February 2nd, 2005, 9:09 am
by [old] peterb
Scott,<br /><br />FYI, I did a 2K warm-up last night, first erg session of the month, and then checked my log card. Monthly total showed 655,350.<br /><br />Might this have anything to do with backing out of a programmed interval session?<br /><br />peterb

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Posted: February 15th, 2005, 12:54 pm
by [old] c2scott
<!--QuoteBegin-peterb+Feb 2 2005, 08:09 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(peterb @ Feb 2 2005, 08:09 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Scott,<br /><br />FYI, I did a 2K warm-up last night, first erg session of the month, and then checked my log card. Monthly total showed 655,350.<br /><br />Might this have anything to do with backing out of a programmed interval session?<br /><br />peterb <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Peter:<br /><br />We will look into it, and yes we should have a discusson about this. In the mean time, if you could send me an image of your card (use transfer utility, click advanced, check the first box (write image to file), then read the card... then find the .bin file that it creates and send it to me) I can then take a look.<br /><br />I'm going to be out most of the week, can we discuss further next week sometime? Send me email with your phone # and a good time to call.<br /><br />-- Scott<br />