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hello! i have a quick question because i have a 2k coming up and i was wondering about what i shoudl be able to pull..i was able to do a 20 minute piece, 26 spm, damper=5 at about a 2:01.3. what do you think my 2k should be able to be if it is free rate? thanks!

<!--QuoteBegin-row4lyfe+Jan 20 2006, 11:01 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row4lyfe @ Jan 20 2006, 11:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hello! i have a quick question because i have a 2k coming up and i was wondering about what i shoudl be able to pull..i was able to do a 20 minute piece, 26 spm, damper=5 at about a 2:01.3. what do you think my 2k should be able to be if it is free rate? thanks! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />row4lyfe<br /><br />You would need to give a bit more information for anyone to give you any accurate advice.<br /><br />What would you rate at for a 2000m normally? Have you done one before? It would be hard to know what time to say as you may row your 2000m at 28spm or as high as 36spm if you are a lightweight. This can make a lot of difference to the overall 2000m time.<br /><br />

<!--QuoteBegin-row4lyfe+Jan 21 2006, 05:01 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row4lyfe @ Jan 21 2006, 05:01 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hello! i have a quick question because i have a 2k coming up and i was wondering about what i shoudl be able to pull..i was able to do a 20 minute piece, 26 spm, damper=5 at about a 2:01.3. what do you think my 2k should be able to be if it is free rate? thanks! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Was the 20 min piece an all out race? If so and you do the same on the 2 k you can expect to go 5/7 sec faster on the splitst. So 1.54/56 ish. Wasn,t it a all out piece than you can go faster even. Don,t change the dampersetting and don,t start to fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <br /><br />If you have te time do a test before. take a 1200 meter piece and try a 1.54 pace. See how that feels, it will give you a good idee.<br /><br />succes.

<!--QuoteBegin-row4lyfe+Jan 21 2006, 12:01 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row4lyfe @ Jan 21 2006, 12:01 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hello! i have a quick question because i have a 2k coming up and i was wondering about what i shoudl be able to pull..i was able to do a 20 minute piece, 26 spm, damper=5 at about a 2:01.3. what do you think my 2k should be able to be if it is free rate? thanks! <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I'm going to say 7:18 to 7:22 ... because that's about where I am ... almost to the decimal ... I plan to try to row 7:20 or under next Sunday at my first live (venue) race ...<br /><br />I'm assuming you're a relatively new rower as am I ...<br /><br />What's your best 2K thus far, even if it's just tests at home or at the gym?

thank you very much!<br /><br />i am a 16 year old lightweight...last year, my pb was 7:29..i forget the rating but this year we have done 2 2ks..one at a 24 (7:45) and one at a 28 (7:41)

<!--QuoteBegin-row4lyfe+Jan 21 2006, 06:17 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row4lyfe @ Jan 21 2006, 06:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->thank you very much!<br /><br />i am a 16 year old lightweight...last year, my pb was 7:29..i forget the rating but this year we have done 2 2ks..one at a 24 (7:45) and one at a 28 (7:41) <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It would appear that you are a bit stronger this year. 7:25.5 <br /><br />We're cheering for ya, so make sure to let us know how it goes.

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 21 2006, 09:29 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 21 2006, 09:29 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-row4lyfe+Jan 21 2006, 06:17 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row4lyfe @ Jan 21 2006, 06:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->thank you very much!<br /><br />i am a 16 year old lightweight...last year, my pb was 7:29..i forget the rating but this year we have done 2 2ks..one at a 24 (7:45) and one at a 28 (7:41) <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It would appear that you are a bit stronger this year. 7:25.5 <br /><br />We're cheering for ya, so make sure to let us know how it goes. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />you think that even if i did the 2ks at a 7:45 and 7:41 this year as opposed to 7:29 last year, i will be faster?

<!--QuoteBegin-row4lyfe+Jan 21 2006, 09:17 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row4lyfe @ Jan 21 2006, 09:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->this year we have done 2 2ks..one at a 24 (7:45) and one at a 28 (7:41) <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Interesting.<br /><br />From 24 to 28 spm and only one second improvement in 500m split - does not sound ideal. Any factors that you think caused this? <br /><br />Some consideration of this may help with search for optimum rating and hence best opportunity for 2k pb.<br /><br />Neil B.

You seem to lose a lot of power per stoke when you rate higher. Do you have a coach working with you.<br /><br />What sort of high rate work do you do compared to your low rate work?<br /><br />

<!--QuoteBegin-row4lyfe+Jan 21 2006, 09:09 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row4lyfe @ Jan 21 2006, 09:09 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 21 2006, 09:29 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 21 2006, 09:29 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-row4lyfe+Jan 21 2006, 06:17 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row4lyfe @ Jan 21 2006, 06:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->thank you very much!<br /><br />i am a 16 year old lightweight...last year, my pb was 7:29..i forget the rating but this year we have done 2 2ks..one at a 24 (7:45) and one at a 28 (7:41) <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It would appear that you are a bit stronger this year. 7:25.5 <br /><br />We're cheering for ya, so make sure to let us know how it goes. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />you think that even if i did the 2ks at a 7:45 and 7:41 this year as opposed to 7:29 last year, i will be faster? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I was tempted to say that it appears you will be even faster this year based on your 20 minute (very close to 5k) performance, but I bakced off a bit due to your reports of current 2k's. I'm thinking that your free rate 2k will be in the stroke rate range of 31-33.<br /><br />Take the first half at 1:52, pick it up to 1:51 in the 3rd quarter, then take it home.

When I was doing my 6ks, raising spm from 24-28 helped me lower my time by ~12 sec (1 off my split). On 2k's, I think unless your like 6ft 5in or taller your spm should be above or around 30. Mine's 31 for the bulk of the peace, and 34 for the last 300m.