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Could some one suggest to me a good book or books on rowing with emphasis on erg training and sports physiology?

<!--QuoteBegin-arndog123+Jan 4 2006, 01:42 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(arndog123 @ Jan 4 2006, 01:42 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Could some one suggest to me a good book or books on rowing with emphasis on erg training and sports physiology? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Rowing Faster, Edited by Volker Nolte is a recent compilation of a lot of what is available. It did not present anything new (and even some things that are wrong), but on the other hand it put a fair bit of useful stuff into a single volume, instead of having to go through many seperate publications.

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 4 2006, 05:55 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 4 2006, 05:55 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Rowing Faster, Edited by Volker Nolte is a recent compilation of a lot of what is available.  It did not present anything new (and even some things that are wrong), but on the other hand it put a fair bit of useful stuff into a single volume, instead of having to go through many seperate publications. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />could you point out to me some of the things that are wrong in rowing faster? i've read it and i did not really notice anything to be incorrect. i thought it was a great book too by the way for anyone who rows competitively. i think its exactly what you are looking for

<!--QuoteBegin-TomB722+Jan 5 2006, 04:01 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TomB722 @ Jan 5 2006, 04:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 4 2006, 05:55 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 4 2006, 05:55 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Rowing Faster, Edited by Volker Nolte is a recent compilation of a lot of what is available.  It did not present anything new (and even some things that are wrong), but on the other hand it put a fair bit of useful stuff into a single volume, instead of having to go through many seperate publications. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />could you point out to me some of the things that are wrong in rowing faster? i've read it and i did not really notice anything to be incorrect. i thought it was a great book too by the way for anyone who rows competitively. i think its exactly what you are looking for <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hi Tom,<br /><br />Get in touch through normal email channels and I'll send you a Word Document on my take-aways from Rowing Faster, there is some tongue-in-cheek stuff, but it points out the errors I saw. It's a bit too long for posting here.

thanks for the book recommendation - I will get a copy <br />

<br />pauls - i sent you a pm

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 4 2006, 05:55 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 4 2006, 05:55 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-arndog123+Jan 4 2006, 01:42 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(arndog123 @ Jan 4 2006, 01:42 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Could some one suggest to me a good book or books on rowing with emphasis on erg training and sports physiology? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Rowing Faster, Edited by Volker Nolte is a recent compilation of a lot of what is available. It did not present anything new (and even some things that are wrong), but on the other hand it put a fair bit of useful stuff into a single volume, instead of having to go through many seperate publications. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Paul:<br /><br />Rather than say, "and even some things that are wrong", how about sharing with us what you feel is wrong in the book? Educate us man ... educate us ...<br /><br />Thanks -- Mark

Mark,<br /><br />The major emphasis of the Book is rowing in boats, which personally I think is good information for folks that just want to Erg, as much of the information is transferrable.<br /><br />I qualify the recommendation only because I've seen too much overlitteralization (new word?) of things that get presented in books (or in various forums) and soon become sticking points for athletes that think they are being attentive. It would be better to read the book and then ask some questions about things that were found questionable.<br /><br />The attempt to educate has been done extensively, lurkers and participants in this forum should be among the most well informed folks in the world, though it continues to get more difficult to seperate the useful information from the stuff that gets posted in what I would describe as a purposeful sabotage. The ensuing arguments reinforce the valdity of the admonition "never argue with a fool, onlookers will have difficulty determining the side of fact".<br /><br />Training principles are fairly simple:<br />1) Learn the fundamentals of the activity<br />2) Always focus on establishing/maintaining good habits <br />3) Begin with an intensity that is managable<br />4) Set slowly progressing goals and stick to the plan<br />5) Alternate the difficult days with easier days (recovery)<br />6) Advance the easy day targets along with the hard day targets<br />7) Avoid information constipation<br /><br />The Nike&#153;: "Just Do it" is pretty good advice.<br /><br />My favorite rowing book is A Textbook of Oarsmanship (Bourne), it was written over a century ago and is the best validation that "There is nothing new under the sun." that I have ever seen. Even the arguments going on at the time are substantively the same as the ones we engage in today. The best part is that since then the body of scientific evidence has been able to show that both sides of some heated arguments were independently correct, the argument ensued because the individuals were litterally refering to one thing, i.e. "Boat speed" but actually arguing about two different things ("hull speed" OR "system speed"). Both sides were completely accurate in what they were talking about, but ended up at odds due to a misunderstanding at the lowest level.<br /><br />Sheesh, that went a whole lot longer than I wanted to.

<!--QuoteBegin-arndog123+Jan 4 2006, 04:42 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(arndog123 @ Jan 4 2006, 04:42 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Could some one suggest to me a good book or books on rowing with emphasis on erg training and sports physiology? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />My most valuable rowing book is the official FISA Level 1 Coaching Handbook:<br /><br />Contents are 1) Basic Rigging 2) Basic Rowing Physiology 3) Basic Rowing Technique 4) Basic Training Methodology 5) General Fitness 6) Learning Methodology<br /><br />The rowing physiology and technique sections are the best and very informative with plenty of diagrams. In some ways it is not unlike the "For Dummies" series of books.<br /><br />The Complete Recreational Rower & Racer by Stephen Kiesling is also a handy book although it is very much on water rowing orientated it does devote a few chapters to C2 erg rowing.<br /><br />You can also subscribe to your local rowing magazine for information. I'm a subscriber to Australian & International Rowing Magozine: www.rowingmagozine.com.au <br />Xeno Muller has a regular page in this mag. with his latest contribution being on coaching and sculling (Thanks for the brilliant article Xeno. All my rowing friends love what you wrote).<br /><br />Rockin Roland<br />

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Australian & International Rowing Magozine: www.rowingmagozine.com.au <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Great to see surfboats included!