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I need some advice.<br /><br />My insenty is as high as when I'm running but my heart rate does not go as high.<br /><br />Is rowwing like swimming, is there a special formula to calculate my target heart rate ?<br /><br />Thanks

<!--QuoteBegin-row73+Oct 24 2005, 06:42 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row73 @ Oct 24 2005, 06:42 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I need some advice.<br /><br />My insenty is as high as when I'm running but my heart rate does not go as high.<br /><br />Is rowwing like swimming, is there a special formula to calculate my target heart rate ?<br /><br />Thanks <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You will have a different MHR for rowing, cycling, swimming or running.<br /><br />Typically your rowing MHR might be 5bpm less than a running one (perhaps because you are sat down and the blood does not have to pump upwards as far)<br /><br />As a runner doing some rowing I tend to have a relatively low HR during the longer sessions as my body has become accustomed to that intensity of effort (perhaps UT2 although I not sure of the correct bands for UT1, AT etc).<br /><br />Running I will see about 165 when flat out and for about 8 months of rowing the most I have seen is 153. However recently, due to having done a few 1 min efforts and rating much faster I see my MHR get up to about 160 right at the very end when I am doing something like 44spm<br /><br />Your best advice is to check out the C2 pages/manual where they advise how to work out your MHR on a C2. Beware though, it sounds like hard work.

Hi <br /><br />Dyuring a normal workout my heart rate while rowing is also about 5-10 beats less than my heart rate while running. I think this is pretty normal. <br /><br />However when I really push myself to the limit on the rower I can find that my heart rate raises to the same level as when I push 100 % running. <br /><br />/Anna

<!--QuoteBegin-row73+Oct 24 2005, 07:42 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(row73 @ Oct 24 2005, 07:42 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I need some advice.<br /><br />My insenty is as high as when I'm running but my heart rate does not go as high.<br /><br />Is rowwing like swimming, is there a special formula to calculate my target heart rate ?<br /><br />Thanks <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I think this must be a strength thing. I have no problems at all getting my heart rate to the same levels as I do while running or while cycling. <br /><br />When I first started to erg, I couldn't get them as high because I didn't have the strength or really the technique. After about 6 months, that's all changed.<br /><br />Jeff

There is a nice discussion at the UK site. You can download a training guide and it has a discussion of heart rate bands. Be prepared for a few minutes of suffering to find your max heart rate on the ergometer. You do a step test. An alternative is to do a flat-out 500 m sprint while wearing a heart rate monitor. Once you know your max, you can find your resting heart rate by taking it first thing in the morning. It is not emphasized much in the UK manual, but once you have done that, you replace %max heart rate by resting + %(max-resting) heartrates. I've been vague, but it is explained in the manual. <br /><br /><a href='http://www.concept2.co.uk/guide/' target='_blank'>http://www.concept2.co.uk/guide/</a><br /><br />Here is another good site, where he points out that different activities can have different maximum heart rates.<br /><br /><a href='http://home.hia.no/%7Estephens/index.html' target='_blank'>http://home.hia.no/%7Estephens/index.html</a><br /><br />Byron

At the beginning my max HR was 6 to 9 beats lower on the erg than with running.<br /><br />After my muscles and body adapted, then it became the same either way.<br /><br />It takes time for the newly used muscles etc to adapt and get used to the exercise.<br /><br />After that your max heart rate should adjust and be either the same or very close to what it is when you run.

My max HR on the erg is 6-8 beats lower than while running. Since I really haven't been bunning in about 4 years it may be an aging thing too but I noticed the difference right off when I started erging. My max HR has stayed pretty consistend over my 3 years of erging even though my times have kept improving.<br /><br />Frank

Hi Frank,<br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My max HR has stayed pretty consistend over my 3 years of erging even though my times have kept improving. </td></tr></table> <br /><br />From the Stevens source:<br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The important thing to remember is: Maximal heart rate does not increase after training. It stays the same (or might even decrease just slightly). However, maximal stroke volume increases. </td></tr></table> <br /><br />Byron

All I can say is I am am what you would call a fairly decent runner, I train regularly sub 6min miles with my hr in the high 70s, its tough but I am in control.<br />I am on my knees puking after an erg session woth the hr in the high 70s, just cant understand it myself

You don't use the same muscles the same way in rowing, swimming, running, and biking.<br /><br />Your heart is the same, but the circulation for the different muscles involved is not the same.<br /><br />Running, you alternate legs, and low back works more with a hard landing, less with an easy foor strike. Arms don't do a lot.<br /><br />Swimming, the legs don't do that much, except breast stroke, butterfly. Sorry, they just don't. Great full length lat work, plus variations on stroke style.<br /><br />Biking, pretty much no upper body work. No lats, no abs. <br /><br />Rowing, is like doing squats and seated rows with sitbacks continually. Rowing, your heart is pushed to supply circulation everywhere at once.<br /><br />

Thanks to all,<br /><br />Your answers really help, after a couple of weeks I can work my entire workout in my heart rate range but it still more difficult than running, keep going on....<br /><br />