Metronome Training Applications

[old] Cayenne · Post by **[old] Cayenne** » December 29th, 2004, 11:49 am

Hello Folks, I've recently been exposed to ideas about training for runners / triathletes using metronomes through www.chirunning.com and www.tempotraining.com I'd appreciate a point to any resouce relating same to erg training. ( Archive search kept "timing out" (?) ) Of course, relating any personal experience / thoughts would be much appreciated as well. Best to All for the New Year, Eddie

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » December 29th, 2004, 2:47 pm

Hi Eddie, Thanks for posting the links. There's not been much posted about using a metronome, but I'm planning to get one soon. Actually I've been checking them out for a few months on Ebay, Froogle etc, and have one in mind. I'm planning to use the metronome to continue working on consistency, rhythm and timing, with the aim of lengthening my drive time and shortening recovery time close to a 1:1 ratio. I am probably close to this already, but a metronome will be a great aid to the consistency and preciseness of doing this.

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » December 29th, 2004, 2:50 pm

The temporunning link doesn't work. Here's the one for chi running: <a href='http://www.chirunning.com/library/story ... rary%29=42' target='_blank'>http://www.chirunning.com/library/story ... r> Here are some previous metronome postings: <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?a ... =metronome' target='_blank'>http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?a ... tronome</a>

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » December 29th, 2004, 3:41 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I'm planning to use the metronome to continue working on consistency, rhythm and timing, with the aim of lengthening my drive time and shortening recovery time close to a 1:1 ratio. I am probably close to this already, but a metronome will be a great aid to the consistency and preciseness of doing this. </td></tr></table> The metronome is a great training tool. The major function of the metonome is to learn how to maintain a relatively constant, quick, powerful drive and a maximally relaxed and prolonged recovery. At low stroke rates (e.g., 16-22 spm), the ratio of recovery to drive can be as high as 3:1 (or even 4:1). At middle distance rates (e.g., 24-30 spm), the ratio of drive to recovery is usually about 2:1. In a 2K trial, the ratio of recovery to drive is usually somewhat less than 2:1. And below 2K, the ratio of drive to recovery can become even. If you are rowing in, say, a 3:1 ratio, a metronome can help you lock into the rhythm; and once you do that, you don't need the monitor anymore. You keep a constrant pace. Good stuff. ranger

[old] Cayenne · Post by **[old] Cayenne** » December 29th, 2004, 5:00 pm

John, Thanks for the reply. "My bad", link should be www.tempotrainer.com. if you are shopping, I've been told this "wear on the ear" model has some advantages. <a href='http://www.activemusician.com/market/items/EM_MM1.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.activemusician.com/market/it ... Please also see this thread at the Chi Running site: <a href='http://www.chirunning.com/bulletinboard ... .php?t=115' target='_blank'>http://www.chirunning.com/bulletinboard ... Ranger, thanks for the great info. Stay Strong, Eddie

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » December 29th, 2004, 5:18 pm

Eddie, Thanks for the updated links. I'm planning to get the Korg MA-30, which runs around $21 with shipping. <a href='http://gallery.bcentral.com/ProductDeta ... ID=1793526' target='_blank'>http://gallery.bcentral.com/ProductDeta ... r> They have your earpiece metronome too: <a href='http://gallery.bcentral.com/GID4585736D ... =metronome' target='_blank'>http://gallery.bcentral.com/GID4585736D ... br> The earpiece one would be good for running too.... hmmm.... however it only sets in 4 beat increments.

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » December 29th, 2004, 5:34 pm

Eddie, I read the chi message board link. Interesting. As regards the other poster, Captain, I also have a long time music background, having played the piano from an early age, then 1st chair trumpet from grade school through college. The piano was quite addictive to me, as I loved the constant rhythmicity and played for hours and hours. This is very much the same for me on the erg. Come to think of it, the same thing applied when I used to play chess. I think there is a mental side of timing that gives strength, patience and endurance.

[old] Cayenne · Post by **[old] Cayenne** » December 29th, 2004, 6:42 pm

John, I hope to hear of positive outcomes regarding your use of the metronome for physical training. Thanks for sharing about your background and insights. Quite interesting. In my brief "googling" for metronome info, I came across "Interactive Metronome", a company/process that sounds fascinating. ( I intend to return to explore their rich web site further.) Helping folks from children with neurological disorders, to post-stroke rehab patients to athletes; stuff about neuroplasticity (I alway knew my brain was really silly putty :] ) etc... Here is a brief excerpt and a link. Enjoy: "The IM Program provides a structured, goal-oriented process that challenges the patient to synchronize a range of hand and foot exercises to a precise computer-generated reference tone heard through headphones. The patient attempts to match the rhythmic beat with repetitive motor actions. A patented audio or visual guidance system provides immediate feedback measured in milliseconds and a score is provided. Over the course of the program, patients learn to: focus and attend for longer periods of time, increase physical endurance and stamina, filter out internal and external distractions, improve ability to monitor mental and physical actions as they are occurring, and progressively improve performance" <a href='http://www.interactivemetronome.com/im/index.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.interactivemetronome.com/im/ ... r> Stay Strong, Eddie

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » November 1st, 2005, 7:28 pm

I got the Korg MA-30 metronome quite awhile ago, which was $18 plus 2.95 shipping. It works very well and I use it quite often. <img src='http://www.guitarshop.net/accessories/korgma30.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[old] Laupi · Post by **[old] Laupi** » November 3rd, 2005, 5:36 pm

Well - I can only recommend the zero budget version - just download and play the metronome: <a href='http://www.pinkandaint.com/weirdmet.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.pinkandaint.com/weirdmet.shtml</a> Its software - not some plastics made in China - I prefer that and its flexible. Give it a try..... Good luch.

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » November 3rd, 2005, 5:46 pm

Thanks, Laupi! <img src='http://www.pinkandaint.com/images/weirdmet.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />