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Could anyone please give me some information on rowing as a lightweight in university in the u.s (any good websites, coaches i could e-mail)? I've been looking into going to a u.s university to row competitively and would like to go on a scholarship even if it's a partial scholarship. I only started to row last year and have been training hard in an attempt to make the junior irish national team for next year and thoroughly believe i can make it not just based on erg scores if i keep up the training. I am also planning on entering some indoor competitions in an attempt to make at least some sort of a name for myself. At the moment my 2k p.b is 6mins 38.7 and i believe i can go sub 6mins 30 by the end of the year and possibly under 6mins 20 by the time i finish high school (in 2 years). <br /><br />Any advice or accounts of your college rowing appreciated, Thanks

I am too interested, though my 2k time needs alot of work as it is right now. I've been looking at past crash-b results to get an idea of what most top college lightweights pull, or at least the ones that go. Harvard has a great lightwegiht team and you can check out their results. Also, search for some college rowing websites on google with terms like "yale crew lightweights", "harvard crew lightweights" etc. and most of the time they have some information on recruiting. Generally, 6:30 is the cut off for heavy weight 2k times, so for a lightweight, that'd be an awesome time.

[quote=Neb154,Jul 26 2005, 03:47 PM]<br />I am too interested, though my 2k time needs alot of work as it is right now. I've been looking at past crash-b results to get an idea of what most top college lightweights pull, or at least the ones that go. Harvard has a great lightwegiht team and you can check out their results. Also, search for some college rowing websites on google with terms like "yale crew lightweights", "harvard crew lightweights" etc. and most of the time they have some information on recruiting. Generally, 6:30 is the cut off for heavy weight 2k times, so for a lightweight, that'd be an awesome time.<br /><br /><br />Your 2k isn't all that bad, mine was around the same (7.23) at december when i was training at the gym a few times a week and weighed 7kg more (not just fat)!!! At the moment my longer distance pieces aren't even close to my short distance ones because i've been training for 2k by doing 10 minute training sessions on the erg along with 10 minute runs and 7500m erg pieces starting off at a steady pace and sprinting the last 2k.<br /><br />I checked up the ''yale crew lightweights'' and ''harvard crew lightweights'' on google and found the university websites but there wasn't much information on lwt scholarships or grants. Would it be better to contact the coaches as soon as possible asking for information ?<br /><br /><br />

<br /><br />I checked up the ''yale crew lightweights'' and ''harvard crew lightweights'' on google and found the university websites but there wasn't much information on lwt scholarships or grants. Would it be better to contact the coaches as soon as possible asking for information ? <br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />I didn't think the Ivy League schools had scholarships. Too late for me, but I've got kids that I'll put on the erg tonight if there are scholarships to these schools. (OK, so maybe the kids are a bit young at 3 yrs, 2 yrs, and 10 months old, but they like to imitate daddy with the old Model C handle that I replaced).

[quote=samdkrc,Jul 26 2005, 11:32 AM]<br />[quote=Neb154,Jul 26 2005, 03:47 PM]<br />I am too interested, though my 2k time needs alot of work as it is right now. I've been looking at past crash-b results to get an idea of what most top college lightweights pull, or at least the ones that go. Harvard has a great lightwegiht team and you can check out their results. Also, search for some college rowing websites on google with terms like "yale crew lightweights", "harvard crew lightweights" etc. and most of the time they have some information on recruiting. Generally, 6:30 is the cut off for heavy weight 2k times, so for a lightweight, that'd be an awesome time.<br /><br /><br />Your 2k isn't all that bad, mine was around the same (7.23) at december when i was training at the gym a few times a week and weighed 7kg more (not just fat)!!! At the moment my longer distance pieces aren't even close to my short distance ones because i've been training for 2k by doing 10 minute training sessions on the erg along with 10 minute runs and 7500m erg pieces starting off at a steady pace and sprinting the last 2k.<br /><br />I checked up the ''yale crew lightweights'' and ''harvard crew lightweights'' on google and found the university websites but there wasn't much information on lwt scholarships or grants. Would it be better to contact the coaches as soon as possible asking for information ? <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Each university's policies for the way that they handle scholarships and the like are completely different. Many top schools, its damned near impossible to get a full scholarship your first year, because with very few exceptions, at the top programs, its all but impossible for freshmen to make the 'A' boats. Your times are quite impressive for a lightweight, especially if you can get down to 6:30, so I'm sure you could find something somewhere. Just contact the coach of the individual university, and express interest to them, and they'll be able to give you information.

[quote=bmoore,Jul 26 2005, 11:47 AM]<br />I checked up the ''yale crew lightweights'' and ''harvard crew lightweights'' on google and found the university websites but there wasn't much information on lwt scholarships or grants. Would it be better to contact the coaches as soon as possible asking for information ? <br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />I didn't think the Ivy League schools had scholarships. Too late for me, but I've got kids that I'll put on the erg tonight if there are scholarships to these schools. (OK, so maybe the kids are a bit young at 3 yrs, 2 yrs, and 10 months old, but they like to imitate daddy with the old Model C handle that I replaced). <br />[/quote]<br />I'm pretty sure they do. They are D-1 schools, so I know that the women get scholarships, and I"m sure the top men do as well. I mean, shit, my school had scholarships until we were turned into a club sport last year (grrr).

I checked up the ''yale crew lightweights'' and ''harvard crew lightweights'' on <br />I'm pretty sure they do. They are D-1 schools, so I know that the women get scholarships, and I"m sure the top men do as well. I mean, shit, my school had scholarships until we were turned into a club sport last year (grrr). <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Both my wife and I went to big football schools (USC & VA Tech), so perhaps the situation was different there. (Not a ding on Ivy League Football). She paid for college by sitting on the Volleyball teams bench, and I went to too big of a school to get a scholarship for waterpolo or swimming. Based on the expected cost of college in 15 years, I'm going to make sure they have an interest in rowing. (I like Xeno's story about sitting next to a coach from Brown and later getting a call to go and row there). Our kids will be tall, so we'll see what they can do when they get older.

Ivy leagues can't officialy offer sports scholarships, but if your a great rower, you somehow seem to get an academic scholarship. Last year, 4 rowers from my highschool team recieved scholarships at ivy leagues for rowing. However, 2 of them have quit so far, and there scholarships aren't revoked because technically, its not a sports one.

<!--QuoteBegin-Neb154+Jul 26 2005, 02:13 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Neb154 @ Jul 26 2005, 02:13 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ivy leagues can't officialy offer sports scholarships, but if your a great rower, you somehow seem to get an academic scholarship.  Last year, 4 rowers from my highschool team recieved scholarships at ivy leagues for rowing.  However, 2 of them have quit so far, and there scholarships aren't revoked because technically, its not a sports one. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />That sounds more like what I've heard regarding the Ivys.<br />

I'd look at the NCAA website and register your info with them. I know that there are a lot of rules that coaches must follow regarding contacting potential recruits. June 31 of going to be a senior is when they can officially start recruiting you. They also can't contact you until september of your senior year and there are different rules about how much contact they can have with you. They can only email you a certain number of times and are allowed one phone call a week. NCAA regulates all the rules. <br /><br />If you want to get recruited make yourself known to coaches. contact them. enter the crash-b's and head races ect. You can also apply for financial aid to schools and often times as an athlete and an A/B student you can get some substantial "financial aid" if scholarships aren't available to you. Also with fiancial aid you won't get rebuked if you have to for some reason quit the team. They'll probably continue if your grades still make the mark.<br /><br />There's tons more too it but that's what I remember from the seminar that they gave at the camp I went to. <br /><br />Good Luck. Also I have a list of division one two and three schools so if you'd like a copy of it I can probably scan it and email it to you just pm me.<br /><br />~Sara

I have just graduated from high school, have been recruited to Ivy light rowing, and will row this fall. If you can get to CRASH-B's this winter, and pull what you've been pulling, coaches will talk to you. Make sure your IB scores and grades are good.<br />Also, Ivy schools, under Ivy League policy, are not allowed to give scholarships for athletics. However, because they are just so fabulously wealthy, they do give you true aid for being you (if that includes athletics, then so be it). Your scores are incredibly competitive and if your weight is good, you stand well in the world of lightweight rowing.

Just wondering akaiser what your 2k time is now and was throughout your years of highschool and also your weight/height

Scholarships at Ivy Colleges are based on financial need. If a coach is eager to have you attend the college, that can help you get admitted. The financial aid office will then determine the scholarship, based on your family's ability to pay. Don't rely on gossip--talk to the admissions office or financial aid office about the details.<br /><br />If you are interested in a particular school, don't be bashful and wait to be discovered. Write the coach.<br /><br />Tom

<br />Does anyone know which college rowing programs are worthwhile and have good coaches and which ones aren't as good or have flawed coaches (to put it bluntly)?<br />And is there anything i need to know regarding admissions, being an international student?

I'd think that with coaches it's personal preference. All coaches have to be qualified so none of them will not know how to coach but it's your personal preference. Contact the coaches!! Seriously it's a good way to become known and to get to know the coach. If they don't get back to you try again. It's good for them to know how interrested you are.<br /><br />Well that's my 2 cents<br />~sara