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[old] row4lyfe
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Post by [old] row4lyfe » January 1st, 2005, 12:36 am

i noticed that during my practices, a lot of people throw up. does that mean that they are out of shape? i've heard that it meant that they've pushed themselves harder than they should. also, why doesnt' it happen in a lot of other sports? should you throw up after evrey practice?<br> thanks! SALLY

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Post by [old] starboardrigged1seat » January 1st, 2005, 4:07 am

That's usually a sign that they're not doing something right -- probably eating something too heavy too close to practice. You should avoid fatty foods 3 to 4 hours before practice -- if you've got a 1:45 lunch and a 3:00 practice, I don't think that sausage and pepper hero is the best choice for lunch. You'd be better off with a PB and J and some fruit. If you look across the finish line of the Olympic finals, I doubt you'll see a single person vomiting from the effort (maybe before the race, but not right after). I don't think that your teammates push themselves harder in practice than Olympians do during their races. If it becomes a problem, have your coach address it.

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Post by [old] Physicist » January 1st, 2005, 12:58 pm

In most cases I'd probably agree that your team mates just haven't learned how to manage their eating habits when training hard yet. But there are individual variations from person to person - some people are just more disposed to vomiting after hard exercise. You do see some Olympic athletes vomit at the end of races (Cracknell has thrown up at the end of a race before.) In fact you can even see them vomit during the race sometimes!<br><br>As for why it's more common in rowing than in other sports, I don't know for sure. But I could speculate it's because 2k rowing has been demonstrated to produce one of the highest lactate concentrations in the blood of all sports.

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Post by [old] pduck » January 1st, 2005, 4:23 pm

The man who won the Olympic marathon trials a few years ago started throwing up with about 5 miles to go in the race. Didn't slow him down a bit. Of course, the cameras were there to record it all. I don't think it has to do with eating habits. If you don't have anything in your stomach if you get sick, you just get the dry heaves.<br><br>There have been a lot of time that I've thought I was going to get sick after a race (running) but I never have.

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Post by [old] tommyboy » January 1st, 2005, 5:12 pm

I just started rowing a month ago so i maybe i am doing something wrong as well,but.... I get the heaves at the end of each 5k row, when i am pushing it real hard. I thought it might be something that i was eating, but i tried to refrain and i still get the heaves. Good to see that it's not that uncommon after all. I would be interested to see what the science behind that is, if anybody knows ...<br><br>cheers

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Post by [old] TheHagueDragon » January 1st, 2005, 7:48 pm

When i did the EIRC two weeks ago in Amsterdam i saw lots of rowers throwup. Sometimes people gave up their race en throw up. Or they throw up after the race.<br><br>When i was in the changeroom i've heard strange noices after the toiletdoors. The sound of food coming out the wrong way! <br><br>I surely haven't seen so many people throwing up in any other sport i did.

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Post by [old] CAROLE MAC » January 2nd, 2005, 10:30 am

I had never been sick rowing til Eirc...... 10 minutes after my race I was hugging the toilet...no idea why did nothing different than I normally do.....

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Post by [old] allapologies916 » January 2nd, 2005, 12:49 pm

Sometimes it's from eating wrong or just not getting enough water, or sometimes too much water... Either way, it is a sign of them pushing themselves, but thats not it entirely... Mostly its because of wrongful eating/drinking.

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Post by [old] jav1 » January 4th, 2005, 4:33 pm

I feel better... I started rowing about a month ago and if I push real hard, I get the heaves. I thought it was just me and fat middle age syndrome. I always row on an empty stomach (after work) 5 plus hours after eating so I don't think its diet.<br><br>BTW, great site but am I the only newbie that feels inadequate? I see some of the times posted here by folks alot older than me and I am just in awe. I have a new found respect for rowers, let me tell you!<br><br>I have made some improvements in a month but according to the rankings, I'm embarrased at what am able to do (or more accuratly, not do). All you seasoned veterans can be inspiring and demoralizing at the same time.

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Post by [old] little weed » January 4th, 2005, 5:04 pm

thank god someone else said it! no, you're not the only newbie who feels inadequate. however, i'm learning to keep my own goals in sight (lose weight, healthier heart and body) and not to be chasing times. at 5'2", 41 years, it's not likely to happen! i was thrilled to get a sub 9 mins 2k! but i AM going to get to my pre-pregnancy weight of 15 years ago! i never feel sick, probably coz i don't overdo things (though i've never been sick since i discovered my allergy to seafood!). my heart rate is often at 160 after a session, even higher sometimes, so i think it's best to play safe and keep going at a steady pace.<br><br>also, probably best not to get too obsessive! <br><br>

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Post by [old] jav1 » January 4th, 2005, 5:20 pm

Little weed,<br><br>I'm soon to be 39, 5'11" and thought I was fairly strong, but a little out of shape. After reading some of the times here, I feel old, fat and week. I'm very close to breaking 8 minutes in the 2k and 1:50 in the 500 but I'm dead afterward (near vomitting) and my heart rate has hit 176. How do these folks do it???<br><br>I'll continue to work but getting to the "average" (50 percentile mark) does not seem possible any time soon. I kind of wish there was a newbie section to temper our expectations against what is normally posted. Sub 1:30 500's just seems supernatural from where I sit.

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Post by [old] starboardrigged1seat » January 4th, 2005, 5:34 pm

jav1 -- lots and lots of miles. There are no secrets in this sport...if you do the right work, and the right amount of it, and enjoy the journey...the times will take care of themselves. As a "newbie" the most important things you can do are work to develop your aerobic base (lots of miles at varying intensties -- check out the UT2 thread and the information on concept2) -- sometimes called "swing rows", work on developing solid stroke technique at lower ratings, and most importantly, have fun!

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Post by [old] Hoofbeat » January 4th, 2005, 5:35 pm

Fellow Newbies I feel the same! I HONESTLY can't imagine getting 1:30 in 500m!!!!! and sub 8minutes over 2k!!! My best times at the moment are:<br><br>500m = 1:56 (wahoo set that last wk!!!)<br>1k = 4:06 (altho 2moz going to go all out as need to know how I'll do in timetrial in few wks!)<br>2k = 8:56 (wahoo sub 9min!)<br>5k = 23:42<br><br>Don't worry, give us plenty of time and soon we'll be catching up all these experts! In the meantime, keep erging...as the poster in our gym says..."You become successful the moment you start moving towards a worthwhile goal".

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Post by [old] little weed » January 4th, 2005, 5:37 pm

i've thought about a newbie section, where we can compare our feeble stats in private! however, the best advice is going to come from the old hands. it would be nice to have a quiet corner of our own where perhaps the more experienced could come and offer helpful advice.<br><br>what are your goals, jav1? why did you start rowing?<br><br>

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Post by [old] little weed » January 4th, 2005, 5:45 pm

hoofbeat, your 1k times is exactly the same as mine, but your shorter distances are faster, whereas my 5k at 22:57 is faster than yours. how does that work then?

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