Training With Xeno Mueller

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » July 12th, 2004, 9:46 am

Just an FYI for all you rowers out there. I had a clinic/seminar with Xeno Mueller this past weekend. If you ever get the chance to train with this man, I HIGHLY recommend it!!! Worth every penny!!! He's a great teacher/coach, and definitely loves what he does. I got three tips from the man, and my rowing has improved leaps and bounds. Row hard, row well. Dwayne

[old] nkoffler · Post by **[old] nkoffler** » July 12th, 2004, 10:19 am

Dwayne- I been to Xeno's Iron Oarsman (in Costa Mesa, CA) a handful of times. Haven't yet been there when Xeno was there but I'm hoping that will be the case in August. In general, doing a group row, on slides, with plenty of mirrors was terrific. It was also nice to simply just do what I was told rather than have to plan out the workout myself. Were you in SoCal or did you do this elsewhere? Neil

[old] DIESEL · Post by **[old] DIESEL** » July 12th, 2004, 10:32 am

It's a shame he decided not to 1X for the U.S. He could have possibly won the gold. Who would have been his main comp... Hacker? Cop? That Ivan Drago looking Norwegian dude? As far as I know, Waddell is still out sailing somewhere in the South Pacific. Man.. I wonder what was going on inside Xeno's head that morning... I figure the dudes at USRowing must have been pissed when he paddled back to shore !! Publicly put on the good face of course, but privately they must have cursed their luck. If money was such a concern, couldn't USRowing have found a way to pitch in a few bucks to alleviate Xeno's financial concerns ?... I don't know - he probably would have been the US's best shot for a gold - considering the usual chokes in the Olympics by the Men's and Women's 8+ . But anyway, back to topic. Erging with Xeno must be epic. I wonder what he pulls for a 2K? I hear he's built like a brick house. D

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » July 12th, 2004, 3:01 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (nkoffler @ Jul 12 2004, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Dwayne- I been to Xeno's Iron Oarsman (in Costa Mesa, CA) a handful of times. Haven't yet been there when Xeno was there but I'm hoping that will be the case in August. In general, doing a group row, on slides, with plenty of mirrors was terrific. It was also nice to simply just do what I was told rather than have to plan out the workout myself. Were you in SoCal or did you do this elsewhere? Neil  </td></tr></table> Neil, He did a clinic here in Phoenix. The only down side...the &#*$ weather. Over 100 F by 10am!!! Dwayne

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » July 12th, 2004, 3:08 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (DIESEL @ Jul 12 2004, 09:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> It's a shame he decided not to 1X for the U.S. He could have possibly won the gold. Who would have been his main comp... Hacker? Cop? That Ivan Drago looking Norwegian dude? As far as I know, Waddell is still out sailing somewhere in the South Pacific. Man.. I wonder what was going on inside Xeno's head that morning... I figure the dudes at USRowing must have been pissed when he paddled back to shore !! Publicly put on the good face of course, but privately they must have cursed their luck. If money was such a concern, couldn't USRowing have found a way to pitch in a few bucks to alleviate Xeno's financial concerns ?... I don't know - he probably would have been the US's best shot for a gold - considering the usual chokes in the Olympics by the Men's and Women's 8+ . But anyway, back to topic. Erging with Xeno must be epic. I wonder what he pulls for a 2K? I hear he's built like a brick house. D  </td></tr></table> The question of his pullout at the trials came up on Saturday. Xeno is incredibly devoted to his wife and children. He was extremely concerned about, not only his safety, but the safety of his family while in Athens. I don't blame him a bit. Just FYI, the clinic was a rowing clinic, not a erging clinic. I actually gave him a bit of a ribbing concerning his erg time (5:53). His response??? He ribbed me right back. Asked me if I'd like to race him on the water. Yeah right!!!! And yes, he is built like a house. A very large house!! Dwayne

[old] DIESEL · Post by **[old] DIESEL** » July 12th, 2004, 5:41 pm

Hey Dwayne, I'm jealous! As to the pullout, I guess I can empathize with Xeno's reasons. It's just me being selfish, I guess. I'm a big fan, what can I say? It would have been cool to have seen him win a gold in the 1x for the US.. The US hasn't had a serious 1X contender since the days of.... hell, way before I was born! Here's a random question. How come U.S. colleges don't race sculls? Not only does it make for better rowers technically, but it also would remedy the also-ran status the US enjoys in the sculling events. One last thing: I've also heard he has this thick German pseudo-Ahnuld accent. True? LOL D

[old] Canoeist · Post by **[old] Canoeist** » July 13th, 2004, 8:04 am

For anybody that is interested, you can row a 2K regatta with Mueller, Hacker and Wadell's 1x times when you use RowPro. Their times in a 1K aren't nearly as fast as they can do on the erg, so you have a fighting chance to win! Cheers, Paul Flack

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » July 13th, 2004, 10:21 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (DIESEL @ Jul 12 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Here's a random question. How come U.S. colleges don't race sculls? Not only does it make for better rowers technically, but it also would remedy the also-ran status the US enjoys in the sculling events. One last thing: I've also heard he has this thick German pseudo-Ahnuld accent. True? LOL D  </td></tr></table> D, Don't know what to tell you about the college sculling thing. I'd like to know that one myself. His accent is definetly Swiss. I lived in Germany for a while, and noticed it immediately. His voice goes well with his personna. He's just a great guy all around. Dwayne

[old] eurofoot13 · Post by **[old] eurofoot13** » July 13th, 2004, 11:52 am

read the june issue of rowingnews. it explains all about the college sculling thing. it mostly relate to IRAs. if IRAs put in small boats, colleges would row them as well.

[old] Coach Gus · Post by **[old] Coach Gus** » July 13th, 2004, 12:50 pm

The IRAs used to include pairs, at least in the early 70s. Don't know if they still do.

[old] yogieatspies · Post by **[old] yogieatspies** » July 13th, 2004, 3:51 pm

Just out of interest what were the hints that he gave you? I would go and row with him if I could but it is a few thousand miles from home. Cheers, Paul.

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » July 14th, 2004, 9:38 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (yogieatspies @ Jul 13 2004, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Just out of interest what were the hints that he gave you? I would go and row with him if I could but it is a few thousand miles from home. Cheers, Paul.  </td></tr></table> The man is BIG on getting the forward body angle set BEFORE you break the knees during the recovery. Making sure that the hamstrings engage before you break the knees. When the arms are bent, the knees are straight. When the knees are bent, the arms are straight. He's real good at getting your boat set up correctly for you too. He had a bunch of drills that we did. He seemed to have more for the Sweepers, than he did for the Scullers. Those were his 'group' tips. He did alot of individual coaching as well. He's very good at picking up even the smallest detail that might be slowing the boat down. I personally have a habit of putting a slight bend in my right wrist that he noticed pretty quickly. Dwayne

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » July 14th, 2004, 2:56 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (dadams @ Jul 14 2004, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>The man is BIG on getting the forward body angle set BEFORE you break the knees during the recovery. Making sure that the hamstrings engage before you break the knees. When the arms are bent, the knees are straight. When the knees are bent, the arms are straight. </td></tr></table> I've been noticing that active use of the feet and straps play a big part for facilitation of this angle. Did he have any comments about using the feet and straps for setting this body positioning?

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » July 14th, 2004, 3:07 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (John Rupp @ Jul 14 2004, 01:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (dadams @ Jul 14 2004, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>The man is BIG on getting the forward body angle set BEFORE you break the knees during the recovery. Making sure that the hamstrings engage before you break the knees. When the arms are bent, the knees are straight. When the knees are bent, the arms are straight. </td></tr></table> I've been noticing that active use of the feet and straps play a big part for facilitation of this angle. Did he have any comments about using the feet and straps for setting this body positioning?  </td></tr></table> No, but the more you use the foot stretchers in the boat, the more check you will put on the boat. So you'd want to use them to a minimum.

[old] Coach Gus · Post by **[old] Coach Gus** » July 14th, 2004, 4:28 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (dadams @ Jul 14 2004, 11:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> No, but the more you use the foot stretchers in the boat, the more check you will put on the boat.  </td></tr></table> How does this put check on the boat?