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When rowing on your concept2, do you enter your warmup/cooldown meters into the log or just the actual pieces? Being someone who is trying to make 500,000 by September 1st, I need all the meters I can get, ethically that is.

<!--QuoteBegin-Neb154+Jul 24 2005, 11:34 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Neb154 @ Jul 24 2005, 11:34 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->When rowing on your concept2, do you enter your warmup/cooldown meters into the log or just the actual pieces? Being someone who is trying to make 500,000 by September 1st, I need all the meters I can get, ethically that is. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Yes.<br /><br />Done properly warm up and recovery is part of the training and so should count. <br /><br />Most of it will be at less than training pace some of the warm up will be at a faster pace. If the strokes are "good" strokes done with proper intent then why not. <br /><br />What would you use as a measure to exclude any meters? Poor form, less than x watts per stroke, etc. <br /><br />It all depends on what you use the log for. I always record the warm up and recovery but as a separate figure from the actula training. This is because the actual training is what matters to me as this is where I need to see the improvements for set distances/times over time. The warm up and recovery meters are irrelevant for this but I include them, as separate figures, towards the annual total.<br /><br />If you have specific training goals then the annual total is less relevant that the quantity/quality of the training meters but nice to know.<br /><br />At the end of the day the total is not really that meaningful to anyone apart from you but when someone posts that they have reached their first 1m meters then I tend to think "good for them" not "I wonder how many of those were "real" meters".<br /><br />Neil B.

<!--QuoteBegin-Neb154+Jul 24 2005, 04:34 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Neb154 @ Jul 24 2005, 04:34 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->When rowing on your concept2, do you enter your warmup/cooldown meters into the log or just the actual pieces? Being someone who is trying to make 500,000 by September 1st, I need all the meters I can get, ethically that is. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I don't, but that is only because the PM2 doesn't record them separately and I'm too lazy to reset the monitor and record the meters each time. Like Neil says, the total is irrelevant to everyone except yourself, so you can do whatever you like.<br /><br />Just as long as you're not using slides at high altitude. <br /><br />Mark

Whether erging or sculling, I get on and then do the appropriate manoeuvres such as a little arms only to get the feel of the water, feathering and so on, set the drag, scull round the swimmers, make sure there's no fishermen I can ram and sink, tighten the gates, shoes or clogs, make sure no watch is scraping skin off my knuckles, that I have the right hat, seat cushion, sunglasses etc; then a few hard ones to make sure I've not forgotten how to stay on board. By that time I'm ready to pull, so then I decide where I want to go and how, and do so, after hitting the button.<br /><br />All my work is steady state, so I hit the button when I can do it. Anything before is just getting comfortable and the HR up to say 120 (double resting) and then I'm ready to go. <br /><br />If I remember, I note the time/distance at steady state, because that's what I want to know. Consistency allows comparison year to year.<br /><br />I cool down under the shower, or swimming in the same lake when I can. 200m or so freestyle is ok for this, but no doubt ½ or 1k would be better and even useful in itself.

I count every meter. Proper warm and cool down is important. Give yourself the incentive.<br /><br />Neil

Yeah, every metre counts. That's what the odometer is for!

If I didn't count the warmup-cooldown I would be less likely to do them. And at my age it's really important to ease in and out of the faster stuff, or I hurt myself... so, sure I count them but separately.<br /><br />grams

I count 'em.<br /><br />Unless I do a minute or two of puttering around before I really starte warming up. Then it just seems to trivial to bother writing it down.<br /><br />On the water, I record what is the commonly accepted distance to specific landmarks (rounded by tradition to the nearest 0.5km or 0.5 mile). I recently took my GPS out on the water and discovered that these commonly acccepted distances are all too short, and I have probably gone an extra unrecorded 20km this season.<br /><br />bw <br /><br />