Comparable Times

[[old] c2workout]

To all the experienced Oarsmen,<br><br>If the water is perfect, smooth, no wind, cool, and no current. I know get real! This is a what if question. <br>If you took the average erg times for all four oarmen in a 4+ how comparable is that to a on water 2K time under the best of conditions?<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Stephen

[[old] Afterburner]

That would depend largely upon the quality of the crew. But from my experiences with the University of Miami women I'd say they'd probly be comparable. If you have a boat of not so experienced rowers the on water time would be slower. If you were looking at like a national team 4+ they might be faster. I'm just guessing here tho. Hope this helps.<br><br>Heather<br>F20 170 lbs 2k 7:32.2

[[old] jamesg]

This page shows the finals times at Sidney 2000.<br><a href='http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0876083.html' target='_blank'>http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0876083.html</a><br> <br>The 4+ is no longer in the Olympic programme. Looks like the 4- (first 3: 5:56 - 57), have similar times to their erg times, and I'd guess a 4+ would be 20 - 30s slower.<br>1x is almost a minute slower (6:48 - 50) a 4x is a bit faster and the 8 (5:33-35) have times that would be difficult to beat on an erg.<br><br>The erg is less technique dependent as AB says, and also more weight dependent than boats: it doesn't sink into the water to compensate for greater crew weight. Goliath no doubt would have got good erg times, but have been beaten by David in a 1x.

[[old] PaulH]

(Admin note - you'd managed to double-post, so I removed one of your posts!)

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-c2workout+Jul 27 2004, 12:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (c2workout @ Jul 27 2004, 12:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To all the experienced Oarsmen,<br><br>If the water is perfect, smooth, no wind, cool, and no current. I know get real! This is a what if question. <br>If you took the average erg times for all four oarmen in a 4+ how comparable is that to a on water 2K time under the best of conditions?<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Stephen <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><br> Supposedly the C2 PM represents that perfect condition/perfect technique time for a 4-.<br><br>A M4+ is 11 seconds slower than the M4- over 2K.*<br><br><br>- Paul Smith<br><br><br>*Rowing Rudern, Table 21, pg 206<br>