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Post by [old] dadams » December 19th, 2005, 9:52 am

Congrats to Sophie Balmary (France) for her outstanding performance this past week. She broke the Women's hwt WR by two tenths of a second (6:28.4).<br /><br />

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Post by [old] NavigationHazard » December 19th, 2005, 10:07 am

That's a great performance!<br /><br />Where did it take place, Dwayne?<br /><br />Edit: To answer my own question, it happened at a French national team test rather than a competition. Presumably this wasn't sanctioned by C2, and so it may be a 'best ever' time but not a world record.<br /><br />For a link to the story see <a href='http://www.worldrowing.com/news/fullsto ... 985&itype=' target='_blank'>WorldRowing.com Story</a>

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Post by [old] dadams » December 19th, 2005, 10:14 am

Here's the short version from Worldrowing.com - <br /><br />'At 11am on Sunday 11 November Sophie Balmary of France set a new women’s world record on the indoor rowing machine when she finished in a time of 6’28.4 for the 2,000 metre distance. <br /><br />Balmary set the record during the first of two French national team tests for the season at the national training centre in Toulouse, France with just her coach Michel Colard watching quietly at her side. She had set out to go under 6’30 with the aim of reaching 6’28 at the second test in February. “I didn’t have the time on my screen during the test,” says Balmary, “so I didn’t know if I’d done the record until after. Doing the record was not really the objective, but more to improve on my best time.”<br /><br />The new record is two-tenths of a second faster than the previous record held by Georgina Evers-Swindell of New Zealand who set the standard in 2002.'<br />

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Post by [old] Roland Baltutis » December 19th, 2005, 5:36 pm

The most outstanding thing about Sophie's performance is that she only uses the erg once a week for about an hour or so. Also she did not set out to break the record. It just happened when doing her time trial for the French National Rowing Team. She's not an indoor rower and has no aspirations there. Her focus is on a World Championship medal in a single scull.<br /><br />It proves a point that if your lucky enough to be able to row in small boats for 12 months of the year, you don't really need to use an indoor rowing machine for training at all (It would be different however if you only rowed in an eight).<br /><br /><br />Rockin Roland<br /><br />

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Post by [old] tomhz » December 19th, 2005, 5:45 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Roland Baltutis+Dec 19 2005, 09:36 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Roland Baltutis @ Dec 19 2005, 09:36 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />It proves a point that if your lucky enough to be able to row in small boats for 12 months of the year, you don't really need to use an indoor rowing machine for training at all (It would be different however if you only rowed in an eight).<br /><br /><br />Rockin Roland <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Roland,<br /> why is a small boat a better preparation for erging than an eight?

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Post by [old] Xeno » December 19th, 2005, 5:50 pm

And hey!<br /><br />Michel Colard, her coach, taught me how to row the single scull as a 13 year old.<br /><br />XENO

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Post by [old] PaulS » December 19th, 2005, 5:54 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-tomhz+Dec 19 2005, 01:45 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(tomhz @ Dec 19 2005, 01:45 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Roland Baltutis+Dec 19 2005, 09:36 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Roland Baltutis @ Dec 19 2005, 09:36 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />It proves a point that if your lucky enough to be able to row in small boats for 12 months of the year, you don't really need to use an indoor rowing machine for training at all (It would be different however if you only rowed in an eight).<br /><br /><br />Rockin Roland <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Roland,<br /> why is a small boat a better preparation for erging than an eight? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I think Roland just meant rowing training, not "erging", there is nowhere to hide in a 1x. <br /><br />In fact, an 8+ might be a very good place to train for Erging, especially if you row with a bunch of boat-stoppers, makes erging feel really easy. <br />

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Post by [old] george nz » December 19th, 2005, 8:47 pm

Just heard on the radio that the NZ team have done their 60min erg tests today. Details are few on the public radio but they said Georgina edged out Caroline at 16630m, and that a couple of the young guys from the 4 (I think they said) did over 18000+<br /><br />George

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Post by [old] rspenger » December 19th, 2005, 8:59 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Dec 19 2005, 02:54 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Dec 19 2005, 02:54 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-tomhz+Dec 19 2005, 01:45 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(tomhz @ Dec 19 2005, 01:45 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Roland Baltutis+Dec 19 2005, 09:36 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Roland Baltutis @ Dec 19 2005, 09:36 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />It proves a point that if your lucky enough to be able to row in small boats for 12 months of the year, you don't really need to use an indoor rowing machine for training at all (It would be different however if you only rowed in an eight).<br /><br /><br />Rockin Roland <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Roland,<br /> why is a small boat a better preparation for erging than an eight? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I think Roland just meant rowing training, not "erging", there is nowhere to hide in a 1x. <br /><br />In fact, an 8+ might be a very good place to train for Erging, especially if you row with a bunch of boat-stoppers, makes erging feel really easy. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Obviously, only Roland has the answer to this, but the problem that I found with rowing in 8s (and smaller crew boats as well) was that it is difficult to get an 8+ organized. With a single, you can go out any time you feel up to it. Now if I only had a single and some way to get it over to Klondike Lake (two miles away across a major highway)....... Too cold now, possibly frozen over, but maybe in the Spring????<br /><br />Bob S.<br />

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Post by [old] FrancoisA » December 19th, 2005, 9:39 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Dec 19 2005, 09:54 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Dec 19 2005, 09:54 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In fact, an 8+ might be a very good place to train for Erging, especially if you row with a bunch of boat-stoppers, makes erging feel really easy.  <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I took a "learn to row" course on an 8+ last Summer and found it quite enjoyable; the fact that I was the only male on the boat didn't hurt either! <br /><br />I was in the stroke seat most of the time and felt a little intimidated being so close to the coxie! <br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />Francois

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Post by [old] ranger » December 20th, 2005, 10:46 am

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The most outstanding thing about Sophie's performance is that she only uses the erg once a week for about an hour or so. </td></tr></table><br /><br />The article says "over an hour." And the stroke rate seems important, I think.<br /><br />"Workouts on the rowing machine have not been a focus of Balmary's training except for a once a week low rating (stroke rate 18) for over an hour."<br /><br />ranger

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Post by [old] Roland Baltutis » December 20th, 2005, 6:16 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 20 2005, 09:46 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 20 2005, 09:46 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The most outstanding thing about Sophie's performance is that she only uses the erg once a week for about an hour or so. </td></tr></table><br /><br />The article says "over an hour." And the stroke rate seems important, I think.<br /><br />"Workouts on the rowing machine have not been a focus of Balmary's training except for a once a week low rating (stroke rate 18) for over an hour."<br /><br />ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Over one hour at 18 spm (less than 2 hours otherwise she would have said couple of hours) is bugger all time spent on an erg for a WR holder. As this 1-2 hours on the erg doesn't contain any speed work I'm sure she could have dropped this session on the erg (replacing it with some cross training or more on water work) and still broken the WR on the erg.<br /><br />So what I'm trying to say here is that it is possible to break a WR on an erg without doing any training on it (obviously the appropriate work must be done in a boat). Now there's a challenge for you Ranger. However I don't think you have enough experience in a boat to use her training methods to do the same.<br /><br />Rockin Roland<br />

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Post by [old] ranger » December 20th, 2005, 6:29 pm

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So what I'm trying to say here is that it is possible to break a WR on an erg without doing any training on it (obviously the appropriate work must be done in a boat). Now there's a challenge for you Ranger. However I don't think you have enough experience in a boat to use her training methods to do the same.[<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />No, I certainly couldn't do this now. I am _very_ inexperienced in my 1x. Then again, I am in no hurry, and even now, I can already work _very_ hard in my boat. Anyway, it is great news to hear that you can just train in your boat and be a WR holder on the erg. To be able to do this would be great. I would much rather spend time in my boat than on the erg.<br /><br />ranger

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Post by [old] cbrock » December 21st, 2005, 7:50 pm

So what I'm trying to say here is that it is possible to break a WR on an erg without doing any training on it (obviously the appropriate work must be done in a boat).Rockin Roland <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Ok so is it possible to break a world record on the erg (at any distance) with minimal specific erg training (say 3 month's) coming from an entirely different background. (eg:running/cycling)<br /><br />Regards,<br />chrisB<br />

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Post by [old] Xeno » December 22nd, 2005, 1:24 am

I am certain that a top of the line NBA basket ball player could dwarf any concept2 world record.<br />I am thinking of S H A Q.... or any other MVP. Sorry to burst our bubble. Maybe I am wrong...

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