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Stroke graphs are now available for the US team at the EIRCs in Copenhagen.<br /><br />Here are the women:<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... peters.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Libby Peters, Gold U23 LWW<br />Splits 1:47.7 1:49.9 1:52.1 1:53.2 -- 7:22.8 (1:50.7)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... dstedt.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Katrina Lunstedt, Silver 30-39 HWW<br />Splits 1:46.9 1:47.7 1:47.5 1:45.7 -- 7:07.8 (1:47.0)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... _gress.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Karen Gress, Gold 40-49 LWW<br />Splits 1:52.1 1:50.9 1:52.7 1:54.3 -- 7:29.9 (1:54.3)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... latzer.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Veronika Platzer, Bronze 40-49 HWW*<br />Splits 1:48.0 1:47.8 1:48.9 1:50.7 -- 7:15.4 (1:48.9)<br /><br />* <span style='color:red'><i>Nice coat</i></span>!! Where'd you get it? <br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... n_blom.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Joan Van Blom, Gold 50-59 LWW<br />Splits 1:51.8 1:51.5 1:52.1 1:50.6 -- 7:26.1 (1:51.5)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... _mills.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Luanne Mills, Silver 60-69 LWW<br />Splits 1:59.6 2:00.7 2:02.1 2:02.6 -- 8:05.0 (2:01.3)

And here are the men:<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... n_shor.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Roman Shor -- Gold, JR18 MHW<br />Splits 1:26.8 1:29.2 1:31.7 1:30.5 -- 5:58.2 (1:29.6)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... k._jr..png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Robert Meenk Jr. -- Gold, 40-49 MLW<br />Splits 1:36.3 1:37.1 1:37.4 1:36.3 -- 6:27.1 (1:38.3)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... iebach.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Paul Siebach -- Silver, 40-49 MLW<br />Splits 1:36.4 1:37.4 1:37.4 1:40.2 -- 6:31.4 (1:40.2)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... n_bone.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Jonathan Bone -- Gold, 50-59 MHW<br />Splits 1:34.2 1:36.3 1:35.9 1:34.9 -- 6:21.2 (1:35.3)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... stings.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Dennis Hastings, Silver 50-59 MLW (55-59 WR)<br />Splits 1:40.6 1:40.4 1:40.3 1:39.5 -- 6:40.8 (1:40.2)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... tellan.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />James Castellan -- Gold, 60-69 MHW<br />Splits 1:37.7 1:38.2 1:38.6 1:39.1 -- 6:33.7 (1:38.4)<br /><br /><img src='http://www.concept2.co.uk/euro/graphs20 ... penger.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />Bob Spenger -- Gold, 80-89 MLW<br />Splits 2:02.6 2:02.1 2:01.0 1:59.8 -- 8:05.6 (1:59.8) (WR, 80-84 MLW)

Great showing!<br /><br />8 Gold<br /><br />4 Sliver<br /> <br />1 Bronze<br /><br />Well done. Congratulations to all.<br /><br />Rick

<!--QuoteBegin-Bayko+Dec 5 2005, 12:57 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Bayko @ Dec 5 2005, 12:57 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great showing!<br /><br />8 Gold<br /><br />4 Sliver<br /> <br />1 Bronze<br /><br />Well done.  Congratulations to all.[right] </td></tr></table><br />If I'm not mistaken, Bob Spenger's 8:05.6 is a new world record for 80+ Men's lightweight (according to <a href='http://www.concept2.com/almanac/get_al_records.asp' target='_blank'>C2's all-time records</a> and <a href='http://www.concept2.co.uk/wirc/records.php' target='_blank'>C2's UK site</a>, the old 2k record was 8:13.8 set at the CRASH-B in 2002). Bob's time is also only 2.1 seconds off the 80+ Men's heavyweight world record (8:03.5).

<!--QuoteBegin-Bayko+Dec 5 2005, 12:57 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Bayko @ Dec 5 2005, 12:57 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great showing!<br /><br />8 Gold<br /><br />4 Sliver<br /> <br />1 Bronze<br /><br />Well done.  Congratulations to all.<br /><br />Rick <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ditto from me. Way to go folks!!<br /><br />Dwayne

<!--QuoteBegin-arakawa+Dec 5 2005, 02:06 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(arakawa @ Dec 5 2005, 02:06 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Bayko+Dec 5 2005, 12:57 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Bayko @ Dec 5 2005, 12:57 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great showing!<br /><br />8 Gold<br /><br />4 Sliver<br /> <br />1 Bronze<br /><br />Well done.  Congratulations to all.[right] </td></tr></table><br />If I'm not mistaken, Bob Spenger's 8:05.6 is a new world record for 80+ Men's lightweight (according to <a href='http://www.concept2.com/almanac/get_al_records.asp' target='_blank'>C2's all-time records</a> and <a href='http://www.concept2.co.uk/wirc/records.php' target='_blank'>C2's UK site</a>, the old 2k record was 8:13.8 set at the CRASH-B in 2002). Bob's time is also only 2.1 seconds off the 80+ Men's heavyweight world record (8:03.5). <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />You are correct. Bob did indeed break the LW WR and very nearly the HW one.<br /><br />Even more incredibly, he broke the <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><i>1k</i></span> record too while waiting for stragglers (me) to arrive in Copenhagen. Apparently he'd gone over to the local rowing club, which we were using for pre-race acclimation workouts, and felt frisky enough to let Dennis Hastings cox him through an attempt. Bob's an amazing rower, as well as a top-class sportsman and all-round nice guy. Not many people can break <i><b><span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>TWO </span></span></b></i>records in about as many days....

Great job Team.<br /><br />I am struck by how different the stroke graphs are for these top competitors. Some seem to fade steadily to the end, others have large humps of slower paces. Most striking to me though is the increase in SR down the stretch, sometimes resulting in an increase in speed and sometimes not. Only some of the graphs suggest the person is in total control.<br /><br />Being relatively slow, I am not a world class athlete, and may be a bit lazy to boot. But I try to be in more control of my pace/SR during the race. Is this just the normal variation in how elite rowers race? Were some of these performances not according to plan?<br /><br />There is another thread about how to pace a 2k, but from this example you could conclude that anything is possible, and that any pacing, or no pacing, might work great too.

12 members of the team and they won 13 medals?<br /><br />Oh, wait there were 13 people on the team when they arrived in Europe, but only 12 listed here: <a href='http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... team05.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... sp</a>.<br /><br />Curious.<br /><br />Still, I agree that it was a great showing!

<!--QuoteBegin-NavigationHazard+Dec 5 2005, 01:23 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NavigationHazard @ Dec 5 2005, 01:23 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />You are correct.  Bob did indeed break the LW WR and very nearly the HW one.<br /><br />Even more incredibly, he broke the <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><i>1k</i></span> record too while waiting for stragglers (me) to arrive in Copenhagen.  Apparently he'd gone over to the local rowing club, which we were using for pre-race acclimation workouts, and felt frisky enough to let Dennis Hastings cox him through an attempt.  Bob's an amazing rower, as well as a top-class sportsman and all-round nice guy.  Not many people can break <i><b><span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>TWO </span></span></b></i>records in about as many days....     <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />In defense of Dennish, I have to respond to this to make a correction. The 1k attempt, though successful, was foolish, selfish, and childish. I take full responsibility for doing something that was not in the best interest of the team, i.e. going all out for an unofficial record, just a couple of days before the real thing. It was when I tried to do another one, a 500m, a few minutes later, that Dennish came over and reminded me of my responsibility to the team - to save my strength for Saturday when I would need it for the race that really counted. I was about 30 seconds into that 500m when I heard Dennish call out. "Bob! Bob! No! Save it for the day after tomorrow." Then I came to my senses and took the pace up from the low 1:50s to the mid 2:00s to finish out the piece. I guess that I was just feeling too frisky - just like the Saturday before I left. Xeno had given me a game plan for a bit of taper and I was following that, dropping the 3k from the Dev Squad Saturday protocol. But I had done a double warmup, my own usual 15' and the D.S. 10' with the 5 short sprints built in. When I started the 2k part of the regular workout, I got carried away and did a time trial, knocking 11 seconds off my previous personal best here at Big Pine. This was NOT what Xeno had recommended and I apologize to him for not sticking with his sound advice.<br /><br />Bob S.<br />

<!--QuoteBegin-michaelb+Dec 5 2005, 02:13 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(michaelb @ Dec 5 2005, 02:13 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great job Team.<br /><br />I am struck by how different the stroke graphs are for these top competitors.  Some seem to fade steadily to the end, others have large humps of slower paces.  Most striking to me though is the increase in SR down the stretch, sometimes resulting in an increase in speed and sometimes not.  Only some of the graphs suggest the person is in total control.<br /><br />Being relatively slow, I am not a world class athlete, and may be a bit lazy to boot.  But I try to be in more control of my pace/SR during the race.  Is this just the normal variation in how elite rowers race?  Were some of these performances not according to plan?<br /><br />There is another thread about how to pace a 2k, but from this example you could conclude that anything is possible, and that any pacing, or no pacing, might work great too. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Michael,<br /><br />A couple of the team members are relative novices, in spite of their good results. Roman is only 17 and has the potential to make some substantial improvement. Katrina has been erging less than a year. She was an active athlete before that, but still it takes some time to reach full potential in a new activity. Jonathon is also relatively new at it and could probably go sub 6 if he cleaned up his act i.e. had some coaching on his technique. In my own case, I can't claim to be a novice to rowing in general, but, until August this year, I had never seriously trained on the erg and, except for one hour at Xeno's, I have never been coached on it. My times here at home vary all over the place and I have had no real chance to learn what my pacing should be at sea level. Jim has plenty of experience, but he was not at his best. He was quite ill that evening and had not had nearly enough sleep in the two weeks before the meet. It is not surprising that he faded at the end. Fortunately, he held together well enough to win his event.<br /><br />Bob S.