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I was wondering what my erg time should be for a 2000m and a 500m. I am 115lbs. and i am 15 years old. i am about 5 foot 7. what should my split time be? <br />does anyone know?<br /><br />Thank You.

<!--QuoteBegin-tuna6135+Nov 29 2005, 04:29 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(tuna6135 @ Nov 29 2005, 04:29 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I was wondering what my erg time should be for a 2000m and a 500m.  I am 115lbs. and i am 15 years old. i am about 5 foot 7.  what should my split time be?  <br />does anyone know?<br /><br />Thank You. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It depends on some of these factors:<br />General aerobic fitness<br />Strength (rowing muscles in particular of course)<br />Determination (ability to put yourself through pain)<br />Technique<br />Race pacing (don't set off too fast)<br /><br />The difference in your 2k & 500m splits (500m pace times) should be in the region of 8 - 12 secs I would say.<br /><br />115lbs - let me get my calculator...<br />52KG!!! <br /><br />Hmm - I'd start my aiming for a 500m of 1:50 and a 2k pace of 2:00 = 8:00<br />Take it from there.<br />Good luck! <br /><br />

Thanks i'll try it

From the <a href='http://www.concept2.com/sranking03/get_wrankings.asp' target='_blank'>online rankings</a><br /><br /><!--c1--><table width='95%' cellspacing='1' cellpadding='3' border='0' align='center'><tr><td><b><div class='genmed'>CODE</div></b></td></tr><tr><td class='code'><div><!--ec1-->Marco  Benedetti 15 Columbus      OH  USA   500 01:38.3 IND 01:38.3<br />Marco  Benedetti 15 Columbus      OH  USA  2000 07:10.3 IND 01:47.6<br /><br />Andrew Koenig    15 Buffalo       NY  USA   500 01:45.3 IND 01:45.3<br />Andrew Koenig    15 Buffalo       NY  USA  2000 07:35.1 IND 01:53.8<br /><br />Will Schlitzer   15 Mattapoisett  MA  USA   500 01:46.9 IND 01:46.9<br />Will Schlitzer   15 Mattapoisett  MA  USA  2000 07:41.0 IND 01:55.3<br /><br />Chris Niswander  15 Toledo        OH  USA   500 01:48.3 IND 01:48.3<br />Chris Niswander  15 Toledo        OH  USA  2000 07:30.5 IND 01:52.6<br /><br />alex buzby       15 bala cynwyd   pa  USA   500 01:56.0 IND 01:56.0<br />alex buzby       15 bala cynwyd   pa  USA  2000 08:16.4 IND 02:04.1<br /><br />jonathan miller  15 lynbrook      ny  USA   500 01:56.9 IND 01:56.9<br />jonathan miller  15 lynbrook      ny  USA  2000 07:19.7 IND 01:49.9<br /><br />Grady Bowman     15 Twin Falls    ID  USA   500 01:58.0 IND 01:58.0<br />Grady Bowman     15 Twin Falls    ID  USA  2000 08:52.0 IND 02:13.0<br /><br />Ben Montague     15 Ada           MI  USA   500 02:25.0 IND 02:25.0<br />Ben Montague     15 Ada           MI  USA  2000 08:13.2 IND 02:03.3<!--c2--></div></td></tr></table>

Im a girl. Sorry thanks for trying to help though

<!--QuoteBegin-tuna6135+Dec 5 2005, 07:29 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(tuna6135 @ Dec 5 2005, 07:29 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Im a girl.  Sorry  thanks for trying to help though <br /> </td></tr></table><br />From the rankings<br /><!--c1--><table width='95%' cellspacing='1' cellpadding='3' border='0' align='center'><tr><td><b><div class='genmed'>CODE</div></b></td></tr><tr><td class='code'><div><!--ec1-->Chihiro Fukushima 15 Canterbury           GBR   500 01:52.1 IND<br />Chihiro Fukushima 15 Canterbury           GBR  2000 08:05.9 IND<br /><br />Abigail Penrose   15 Evesham              GBR   500 01:55.0 IND<br />Abigail Penrose   15 Evesham              GBR  2000 08:17.0 IND<br /><br />india wells       15 glen echo        md  USA   500 01:58.8 IND<br />india wells       15 glen echo        md  USA  2000 08:36.3 IND<br /><br />Liz Carney        15 British Columbia     CAN   500 02:01.6 IND<br />Liz Carney        15 British Columbia     CAN  2000 08:17.0 IND<br /><br />Savannah Cookson  15 Alpharetta       GA  USA   500 02:06.1 IND<br />Savannah Cookson  15 Alpharetta       GA  USA  2000 09:25.4 IND<br /><!--c2--></div></td></tr></table><br />And you can look at the results of <a href='http://www.concept2.co.uk/birc/results.php' target='_blank'>birc</a> or <a href='http://www.c2euroopen.dk/result.php' target='_blank'>euro open</a>.

Thank you.

Hi Tuna.<br /><br />I have another piece of information for you.<br /><br />In different Olympic teams, when a 500 meter is rowed flat out, full tilt, so hard that you do not want to take another stroke beyond, that should be in the ball park of 107% of your max 2K split time.<br />The 500 meter time is broken down into seconds to calculate the 100% 2K time. This is with the assumption that training has been consistent.<br /><br />I hope this helps.<br /><br />XENO

<!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Dec 20 2005, 10:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Dec 20 2005, 10:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Tuna.<br /><br />I have another piece of information for you.<br /><br />In different Olympic teams, when a 500 meter is rowed flat out, full tilt, so hard that you do not want to take another stroke beyond, that should be in the ball park of 107% of your max 2K split time.<br />The 500 meter time is broken down into seconds to calculate the 100% 2K time.  This is with the assumption that training has been consistent.<br /><br />I hope this helps.<br /><br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Not really a big help, means I should be doing 6:00 2ks .... woe is me <br />

<!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Tuna.<br /><br />I have another piece of information for you.<br /><br />In different Olympic teams, when a 500 meter is rowed flat out, full tilt, so hard that you do not want to take another stroke beyond, that should be in the ball park of 107% of your max 2K split time.<br />The 500 meter time is broken down into seconds to calculate the 100% 2K time.  This is with the assumption that training has been consistent.<br /><br />I hope this helps.<br /><br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br />So if my 500 PB is 1:30 then in theory my 2K splits should be 1:36ish (90*1.07) ?<br /><br />And if my 2K PB split is 1:50, then I should be able to pull 1:42ish (110/1.07) for a flat-out 500?

<!--QuoteBegin-Mark Keating+Dec 20 2005, 06:02 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Mark Keating @ Dec 20 2005, 06:02 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Tuna.<br /><br />I have another piece of information for you.<br /><br />In different Olympic teams, when a 500 meter is rowed flat out, full tilt, so hard that you do not want to take another stroke beyond, that should be in the ball park of 107% of your max 2K split time.<br />The 500 meter time is broken down into seconds to calculate the 100% 2K time.  This is with the assumption that training has been consistent.<br /><br />I hope this helps.<br /><br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br />So if my 500 PB is 1:30 then in theory my 2K splits should be 1:36ish (90*1.07) ?<br /><br />And if my 2K PB split is 1:50, then I should be able to pull 1:42ish (110/1.07) for a flat-out 500? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi everyone<br />This is an estimatimation.<br />These percentages were determined on water under perfect conditions. I feel comfortable to believe that we can do the same with indoor rowing since there are far fewer variables that affect a final result. One very important point is how fit a rower is aerobically. A non trained athlete will have a far superior 500meter max than a 2000 meter max. An individual who puts in three to four rows per week will find that their 500 meter max is still far superior to the 2K. Maybe we could even calculate 110%. If the MAX effort is increased to 1000 meters the error margin is reduced. In the end, rowing a five hundred and a thousand meter in preparation for a later 2K is very important for a competitor to learn self pacing. Shorter distances help a competitor gage their 2k capability.<br />I hope this clarifies these percentage ideas.<br />XENO

<!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Dec 21 2005, 03:35 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Dec 21 2005, 03:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Mark Keating+Dec 20 2005, 06:02 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Mark Keating @ Dec 20 2005, 06:02 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Tuna.<br /><br />I have another piece of information for you.<br /><br />In different Olympic teams, when a 500 meter is rowed flat out, full tilt, so hard that you do not want to take another stroke beyond, that should be in the ball park of 107% of your max 2K split time.<br />The 500 meter time is broken down into seconds to calculate the 100% 2K time.  This is with the assumption that training has been consistent.<br /><br />I hope this helps.<br /><br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br />So if my 500 PB is 1:30 then in theory my 2K splits should be 1:36ish (90*1.07) ?<br /><br />And if my 2K PB split is 1:50, then I should be able to pull 1:42ish (110/1.07) for a flat-out 500? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi everyone<br />This is an estimatimation.<br />These percentages were determined on water under perfect conditions. I feel comfortable to believe that we can do the same with indoor rowing since there are far fewer variables that affect a final result. One very important point is how fit a rower is aerobically. A non trained athlete will have a far superior 500meter max than a 2000 meter max. An individual who puts in three to four rows per week will find that their 500 meter max is still far superior to the 2K. Maybe we could even calculate 110%. If the MAX effort is increased to 1000 meters the error margin is reduced. In the end, rowing a five hundred and a thousand meter in preparation for a later 2K is very important for a competitor to learn self pacing. Shorter distances help a competitor gage their 2k capability.<br />I hope this clarifies these percentage ideas.<br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Thanks Xeno. That's what I thought, just wanted to double-check.

Good one Mark.<br />Who do you log your miles with on the world ranking?<br />If you are a stray, join us.<br />XENO

<!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Dec 21 2005, 10:35 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Dec 21 2005, 10:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Mark Keating+Dec 20 2005, 06:02 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Mark Keating @ Dec 20 2005, 06:02 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Tuna.<br /><br />I have another piece of information for you.<br /><br />In different Olympic teams, when a 500 meter is rowed flat out, full tilt, so hard that you do not want to take another stroke beyond, that should be in the ball park of 107% of your max 2K split time.<br />The 500 meter time is broken down into seconds to calculate the 100% 2K time.  This is with the assumption that training has been consistent.<br /><br />I hope this helps.<br /><br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br />So if my 500 PB is 1:30 then in theory my 2K splits should be 1:36ish (90*1.07) ?<br /><br />And if my 2K PB split is 1:50, then I should be able to pull 1:42ish (110/1.07) for a flat-out 500? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi everyone<br />This is an estimatimation.<br />These percentages were determined on water under perfect conditions. I feel comfortable to believe that we can do the same with indoor rowing since there are far fewer variables that affect a final result. One very important point is how fit a rower is aerobically. A non trained athlete will have a far superior 500meter max than a 2000 meter max. An individual who puts in three to four rows per week will find that their 500 meter max is still far superior to the 2K. Maybe we could even calculate 110%. If the MAX effort is increased to 1000 meters the error margin is reduced. In the end, rowing a five hundred and a thousand meter in preparation for a later 2K is very important for a competitor to learn self pacing. Shorter distances help a competitor gage their 2k capability.<br />I hope this clarifies these percentage ideas.<br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Doesn't seem to work out well for me, way out<br /><br />500m - 1:25.7 (not particularly fast for a m40h)<br />your method predicts a 2km time of 6:06.7 (WR pace)<br />my 2km best 6:31.4<br /><br />

<!--QuoteBegin-SteveV+Dec 21 2005, 11:52 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(SteveV @ Dec 21 2005, 11:52 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Dec 21 2005, 10:35 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Dec 21 2005, 10:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Mark Keating+Dec 20 2005, 06:02 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Mark Keating @ Dec 20 2005, 06:02 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Dec 20 2005, 07:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Tuna.<br /><br />I have another piece of information for you.<br /><br />In different Olympic teams, when a 500 meter is rowed flat out, full tilt, so hard that you do not want to take another stroke beyond, that should be in the ball park of 107% of your max 2K split time.<br />The 500 meter time is broken down into seconds to calculate the 100% 2K time.  This is with the assumption that training has been consistent.<br /><br />I hope this helps.<br /><br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br />So if my 500 PB is 1:30 then in theory my 2K splits should be 1:36ish (90*1.07) ?<br /><br />And if my 2K PB split is 1:50, then I should be able to pull 1:42ish (110/1.07) for a flat-out 500? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi everyone<br />This is an estimatimation.<br />These percentages were determined on water under perfect conditions. I feel comfortable to believe that we can do the same with indoor rowing since there are far fewer variables that affect a final result. One very important point is how fit a rower is aerobically. A non trained athlete will have a far superior 500meter max than a 2000 meter max. An individual who puts in three to four rows per week will find that their 500 meter max is still far superior to the 2K. Maybe we could even calculate 110%. If the MAX effort is increased to 1000 meters the error margin is reduced. In the end, rowing a five hundred and a thousand meter in preparation for a later 2K is very important for a competitor to learn self pacing. Shorter distances help a competitor gage their 2k capability.<br />I hope this clarifies these percentage ideas.<br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Doesn't seem to work out well for me, way out<br /><br />500m - 1:25.7 (not particularly fast for a m40h)<br />your method predicts a 2km time of 6:06.7 (WR pace)<br />my 2km best 6:31.4 <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hey, 125.7 is pretty fast. I muster a 122 a while ago. As I said there needs to be a solid amount of aerobic conditioning done to make these percentages true. Is the men's 606 world record? I thought it was below 6.<br />XENO