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[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 21st, 2004, 2:44 pm

Webs stream sounds like a great idea. It would be perfectly appropriate for such a monumental moment in Taff Attack History!

[old] SteveV · Post by **[old] SteveV** » October 21st, 2004, 3:29 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Daren C @ Oct 21 2004, 01:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> LOL, sounds awesome. You'll have to get a video camera and put the race on the Web. Congratulations on the PB!  </td></tr></table> I messed around with a webcam and streaming software a while ago, VineyCam went online a few times. I used Yawcam software (www.yawcam.com) , it was a bit slow on the update rate at times so not perfect for live rowing Do you know of any good streaming software Daren ??

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 21st, 2004, 3:30 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (SteveV @ Oct 21 2004, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Do you know of any good streaming software Daren ??  </td></tr></table> No, not really. For all my computeriness and techno gadgetry, I don't even have a webcam of my own. =/

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 21st, 2004, 3:41 pm

You don't necessarily need a live webcam feed. All you need is a digital camcorder with DV Out which you hook up to a PC via a Firewire connection. Once the digital video is on the PC, it's a simple matter of: - loading into an editing package like Windows Movie Maker (free with XP) , - edit it how you want or just leave as is, - save it as a WMV (Windows Media Video) file on your PC, - upload the file to the Internet - boast on the forum of your Spielbergesque production and advertise the link - VIOLA!!

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 21st, 2004, 4:20 pm

Seven days ago I took my 2K PB down 1.6 seconds, from 7:13.5 (1:48.4) to 7:11.9 (1:48.0). Today, I took it down another 7.3 seconds, from 7:11.9 (1:48.0) to 7:04.6 (1:46.1). No, I can't quite believe it, either. Compared to the last row, this one was a lot different. Stroke rate was up 12% and distance per stroke was down 9%. I clearly attacked it differently, but I didn't plan on this. I was concentrating on the pace rather than stroke rate. The pace was up 2% and heart rate up 1%. As you can see from the following comparison data, the race was completely different. Last time, I went out easy and controlled, and had enough left to "sprint", relatively speaking, at the end. This time, I went out hard and then slowed up, holding on for the end. My heart rate this time is plainly higher than last time. It felt harder, too. I'm not entirely sure whether I'm happy or not. On the one hand, I sacrificed my stroke for pace, and had to work harder, but on the other hand, the result is plain to see and not to be sniffed it. </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'> Oct 14 Oct 21 Sp Pace SR HR Sp Pace SR HR -------------- -------------- 100 1:51.00 30 129 1:45.50 31 139 200 1:49.00 30 142 1:43.50 29 152 300 1:49.50 27 148 1:43.50 32 159 400 1:50.00 25 152 1:44.00 29 163 500 1:49.50 27 157 1:44.50 34 165 600 1:49.00 27 161 1:45.50 31 166 700 1:49.00 28 163 1:47.50 31 166 800 1:49.00 28 164 1:47.00 34 168 900 1:50.00 27 166 1:48.00 31 169 1000 1:50.00 27 167 1:48.00 33 170 1100 1:49.50 25 169 1:47.00 34 171 1200 1:49.00 28 170 1:47.00 31 172 1300 1:49.00 30 170 1:47.00 34 173 1400 1:49.50 27 171 1:47.50 34 173 1500 1:47.50 28 172 1:47.00 34 174 1600 1:45.50 31 173 1:46.50 34 175 1700 1:44.50 35 174 1:47.00 34 176 1800 1:43.00 32 174 1:46.00 34 177 1900 1:43.50 35 175 1:46.00 34 177 2000 1:43.00 38 176 1:44.00 35 178 Avg Page 1:48.00 1:46.10 Time 7:11.9 7:04.6  </td></tr></table>

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 21st, 2004, 4:25 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Niall @ Oct 21 2004, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> You don't necessarily need a live webcam feed. All you need is a digital camcorder with DV Out which you hook up to a PC via a Firewire connection. Once the digital video is on the PC, it's a simple matter of: - loading into an editing package like Windows Movie Maker (free with XP) , - edit it how you want or just leave as is, - save it as a WMV (Windows Media Video) file on your PC, - upload the file to the Internet - boast on the forum of your Spielbergesque production and advertise the link - VIOLA!!  </td></tr></table> You are, of course, correct, Niall. In fact, that's exactly the approach I used last month to film and produce footage of my 500m PB attempt! The footage and time is out of date, now, but if anyone wants to watch it, it's still on the Web. =) If nothing else, it'll let felly Taffians see who I am. <a href='http://www.red-rose.com/downloads/500m-pb-attempt.mpg' target='_blank'>http://www.red-rose.com/downloads/500m- ... mpt.mpg</a> 13Mb (2m 40s)

[old] SteveV · Post by **[old] SteveV** » October 21st, 2004, 4:54 pm

you should put that link on the uk site Daren, you will get some rowing technique tips and advertise rowpro at the same time

[old] SteveV · Post by **[old] SteveV** » October 21st, 2004, 4:58 pm

The reason for the idea of a live webcast was so two rowers doing intervals on e-row/rowpro could also see each other in real time. Still working on the technology for that one

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 21st, 2004, 5:02 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (SteveV @ Oct 21 2004, 09:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> you should put that link on the uk site Daren, you will get some rowing technique tips and advertise rowpro at the same time  </td></tr></table> Well, that's not really a great indicator of my technique, as far as I'm concerned. The main reason being that I did that 500m piece on maximum drag, rather than the 121/level 4 or 5 I normally use. Using a 120 drag factor, I just can't pull at a 1:33 split yet.

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 21st, 2004, 5:07 pm

Daren, Take it from me, if I managed to drop my 2K PB by over 7 seconds, I'd be ecstatic and not worry about details of form and technique; brute, raw determination is good enough in my book! That's not to say you can't address your minor concerns but don't let it detract from a great performance! Just finished watching your home move (the rowing one!! ). Nice production. Not sure how you crammed two film crews in to your garage to get the different viewing perspectives . Good to see your dog was there for moral support too!

[old] Bore Da! · Post by **[old] Bore Da!** » October 21st, 2004, 5:14 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Today, I took it down another 7.3 seconds, from 7:11.9 (1:48.0) to 7:04.6 (1:46.1). </td></tr></table> Be happy mate, its a new PB, and your primed to go sub 7 - you gotta be excited about that - just imagine if you had only (by your standards) done a 7:10 then you know you would be unhappy. Heres a scientific experiment for you - row 500m with a start of 1:38ish ramping down to 1:45. check the heart rate at the end - if it still holds at 165 (as it did in todays row) then your on for sub 7 without doing anything extra. I'd like to know coz i'll do the same then Cheers and Congratulations Chris

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 21st, 2004, 5:26 pm

Oh, well, yeah, I am happy, it's just that... I don't know. I feel a bit like... Oh, Lord knows. =) I guess I just feel like I want everything at once - a stronger stroke and faster pace, rather than dropping the stroke power and increasing the rate to compensate. Still, it's a big improvement in a week, so I guess that adjusting my technique is the right thing to do if I want maximum speed - in the short term at least.

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 21st, 2004, 5:28 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Niall @ Oct 21 2004, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Not sure how you crammed two film crews in to your garage to get the different viewing perspectives  </td></tr></table> I cheated, naturally! In fact, I rowed the piece twice. The first time I filmed RowPro so that I'd have an accurate capture of my real time. The second time, a couple of minutes later, I filmed myself, but I did a slower time by a few seconds. =) Artistic license!

[old] chippy · Post by **[old] chippy** » October 21st, 2004, 5:32 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Bore Da! @ Oct 21 2004, 01:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Chippy was supposed to prove his time of 3:20 was right, but hasn't (he did try but his maths is terrible. He set off at 1:35 pace, and then stops at 750m wondering why his heart doing 200mph!!! ) The big question is whats the distance? Whatever it is we'll stop short by that amount, get together, and blast to the end in a traditional Taff Attack show of Macho Agony!!! All spoils to the winner.  </td></tr></table> [QUOTE] Chris Great time for the 1k.You should have said nothing when i plotted the race of at 725meters cos in the 6 hundreds the groan is much STONGER than the wimper and with those spagetti arms you have no chance. I must admit you are stonger over the longer distances but i will go along with what ever is decided by others.You and i can not be trusted. On sunday you had better bring the cheque book in case we run into Carole Mac with her granny being Parry and all that ,if we can catch here without her body gaurds she might sign up.If it goes wrong you know where we will be spending the night. Grumpy is back in town and will be on the ergo in the morning determend to hunt me down Nearly forgot that Graham had a Pbs today on the 2k,Well done Taff,Tidy. Loved by everone,i dont think Chippy

[old] ramboyo · Post by **[old] ramboyo** » October 21st, 2004, 5:52 pm

Hello Taffians,ahead of Sue again,did a 8.09 for 2k this morning,entered my scores on the Nonathlon,ok Aussie Last erg in morning then NYC,we have a date with one of NY's finest,can't wait,precinct station station will echo to Mae hen wlad fy nhadau!!! We hope hotel has an erg.we'll fly the Welsh dragon on 7th ave. Nos da, Sue and Graham.

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