Runners Thread

[old] Jim Barry · Post by **[old] Jim Barry** » January 19th, 2006, 9:53 pm

<a href='http://www.furman.edu/first/index.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.furman.edu/first/index.htm</a><br /><br />I found it in my runner's world mag. Once you get both sports on some solid ground they go pretty well together. I might even go as far to say that on a limited time budget spreading your intense sessions across two sports is optimal in some cases. <br /><br /><br />

[old] Calgary Rob · Post by **[old] Calgary Rob** » January 26th, 2006, 10:31 pm

It's been a bit quiet on this thread recently.<br /><br />I'm still mixing the erging and rowing, doing both at 70% of working heart rate for each activity.<br /><br />Current 10km times and km paces at this intensity:<br /><br />Erging: 41m20s, 4m08s<br /><br />Running: 44m54s, 4m30s<br /><br />I've signed up for a HM in April, and will probably sign up for a 10K in March.

[old] Yukon John · Post by **[old] Yukon John** » January 26th, 2006, 10:47 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I'm still mixing the erging and rowing, doing both at 70% of working heart rate for each activity. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Just curious Rob, it seems you do most of your training at 70%, do you ever go higher than that, say in intervals? If you get a chance, maybe you could fill me in more on the 70% thing, eh? I'd appreciate it . John.<br /><br />By the way, I've only done one run so far, way to busy lately . But it felt great to be on the trails again! I'm hoping in the next week or two to be able to run 2-3 times / week. That's great that you're signed up for some races! It helps me with training if I know something is coming up in the future. John.

[old] johnnybike · Post by **[old] johnnybike** » January 31st, 2006, 5:07 am

Google Map is a great means for checking out the mileage of a new route. Easy to use, just double click on points on the route and it can be saved as a URL<br /><br /><a href='http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/' target='_blank'>GMAP</a><br /><br />I think 70% for running would be a little slow/easy for me Rob. It is probably the pace I run off-road at which is nearer 8 minute miles than 7

[old] ancho · Post by **[old] ancho** » January 31st, 2006, 8:21 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(johnnybike @ Jan 31 2006, 10:07 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Google Map is a great means for checking out the mileage of a new route. Easy to use, just double click on points on the route and it can be saved as a URL<br /><br /><a href='http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/' target='_blank'>GMAP</a><br /><br />I think 70% for running would be a little slow/easy for me Rob. It is probably the pace I run off-road at which is nearer 8 minute miles than 7 <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Great!<br />Jump to Spain-Castelldefels (satelite vision), and you'll see our Olympic Channel. 1 lap = nice flat 2,75 km, with great well marked at each 250 m...<br />Cheers!<br />

[old] Jim Barry · Post by **[old] Jim Barry** » February 6th, 2006, 12:23 am

Well January was a tough month for running training. I was running well in late December with a tempo training paces around 7:00/mile and faster, but then my knee was acting up so I packed in the running more or less and instead rowed (about 140k). My calendar had a 10 mile race penciled in for today and for weeks I was not sure I was going to do it. I rearranged the goals and figured I do it for fun. I was not sure how much speed I had lost with the break, so judging pace was going to be hard. When the race got off I moved up into a faster pack of racers and was hitting 7:00 minute miles for most of the first 5 miles. I was happy but wondering if I'm just being stupid. At 6.2 miles I had easily bettered my 10k PB(43:58 set in November). That was cause for celebration right there but that party was muted when the reality of 4 more miles still lingered. The knee was fine and my little squeezie bottle of Hammer gel and water were great for the energy needs. 10 miles is a tough distance since you can go fast, but it's still over an hour of running. Racing over these distances is all new to me so I played the rest of the race conservatively assuring that distance racing leaves a good taste in my mouth (what great excuses we can make up!). The next four miles were about 7:23/miles and a little uphill in general. I crossed the line comfortably in 72:18 or (7:14/mile). Not bad considering the dearth of running I had in the bank this past month. Rowing did well to sustain me. <br /><br />I must say this is one sure way to wipe you out. I was dragging all day. <br />

[old] johnnybike · Post by **[old] johnnybike** » February 6th, 2006, 6:14 am

Well done Jim. Good race on not a lot of input. I have proved to myself over recent months that rowing can cause any running fitness to be retained, certainly for a period of up to about 2 -3 months.<br /><br />You say you are not used to racing distance work but you have been running further than 10 miles in training haven't you. Is a HM race on the cards now then? Sub 1:30 looks a possibility if you paced it right and got that extra mileage in that you need.<br /><br />I myself managed 2 good runs this weekend which is unusaul. More in my diary

[old] ancho · Post by **[old] ancho** » February 6th, 2006, 8:00 am

Haven't run a single mile in 2006, will pick it up again this week (hopefully wednesday. Was thinking to do a HM on feb 19th, but i think I'll drop it.<br />Think my next race will be beginning of april (10k).

[old] RowtheRockies · Post by **[old] RowtheRockies** » February 7th, 2006, 12:17 pm

First Run in three months and it was great! OK so it was only three miles but I was amazed at how good I felt, no doubt because of the rowing I started two months ago. Cardio wise, I felt like I could run forever but my legs were the limiting factor. Who would have thought that 3 miles could leave me soar the next day. Looking forward to easing back into running on rowing as well.

[old] Calgary Rob · Post by **[old] Calgary Rob** » February 8th, 2006, 11:04 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(RowtheRockies @ Feb 7 2006, 09:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>First Run in three months and it was great! OK so it was only three miles but I was amazed at how good I felt, no doubt because of the rowing I started two months ago. Cardio wise, I felt like I could run forever but my legs were the limiting factor. Who would have thought that 3 miles could leave me soar the next day. Looking forward to easing back into running on rowing as well. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Great name!<br /><br />I actually ran in the Rockies this weekend. About 15km's in and around Kananaskis village on the x-c ski trails. I have the Yaktrax on my trail shoes for gripping the snow. It still feels like running in sand though.<br /><br />I did a hill session yesterday, and felt it tonight on my 8km row.<br /><br />Feeling fit, but very tired.

[old] johnnybike · Post by **[old] johnnybike** » February 11th, 2006, 3:10 pm

Just an update to say that I completed my 20 mile fell race today in a much better time than I or anyone else expected from me. 3:56, breaking the 4 hour barrier which is quite a challenge for a lot of the runners. I was not passed by a runner after 1/2 mile and worked my way through the field always chasing the next runner ahead, although that was sometimes up to 1/2 a mile away as we were well strung out<br /><br />Traininh up to 1st Jan was pretty non-existent through injuries but I have worked hard since then culminating in two 40+ weeks. <br /><br />I did not know if I would last out as the furthest I have run in 17 years is 13 miles and certainly nothing as tough as todays race. Conditions were clear but bitingly cold with a lot of frozen peat groughs to skate over and then wade through the unfrozen bogs. <br /><br />More details in my diary. To sum up I am pretty pleased with myself.<br /><br />John

[old] Yukon John · Post by **[old] Yukon John** » February 11th, 2006, 4:09 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(johnnybike @ Feb 11 2006, 11:10 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Just an update to say that I completed my 20 mile fell race today in a much better time than I or anyone else expected from me. 3:56, breaking the 4 hour barrier which is quite a challenge for a lot of the runners. I was not passed by a runner after 1/2 mile and worked my way through the field always chasing the next runner ahead, although that was sometimes up to 1/2 a mile away as we were well strung out<br /><br />Traininh up to 1st Jan was pretty non-existent through injuries but I have worked hard since then culminating in two 40+ weeks. <br /><br />I did not know if I would last out as the furthest I have run in 17 years is 13 miles and certainly nothing as tough as todays race. Conditions were clear but bitingly cold with a lot of frozen peat groughs to skate over and then wade through the unfrozen bogs. <br /><br />More details in my diary. To sum up I am pretty pleased with myself.<br /><br />John<br /> </td></tr></table> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Outstanding Johnny!!! You've acheived quite an accomplishment. Twenty miles, 4000 ft. and the ground conditions uneven and slippery, wow that's tough and to do that in under 4 hours, well done. Your conditioning is excellent to be able to do this in basically a two month running plan. Good luck on the three peaks race! John.

[old] Jim Barry · Post by **[old] Jim Barry** » February 13th, 2006, 1:12 pm

Great Going John. I was watching the Olympic Downhill last night and that was just 3000ft of vertical so I came to appreciate your race even more!<br /><br />I ran Fri, Sat and Sunday for 6 miles each day, but today I'm stuck down by a stomach bug. I can barely shuffle down the hall and have no energy. <br /><br /> <br /><br />

[old] johnnybike · Post by **[old] johnnybike** » February 13th, 2006, 4:48 pm

Ha, I know your game Mr Barry, 3 days of good running and then a bit of snow comes along and suddenly you are too ill to shovel it.

<br /><br />Get better soon, you are on a roll at the moment, all that trail running<br /><br />Cheers John, I need to force myself to get back to the rowing but felt tired today so I could not be bothered basically. WIRC could be embarassing but I am hoping to fit a 5 mile race in on race day - Fresh Ponds. Depends on the time of my race really. Although I am tempted to run rather than row anyway if I cannot do both.

[old] ancho · Post by **[old] ancho** » February 15th, 2006, 1:15 pm

Hi, <br />had my first run of the year today, during lunchtime on the university tracks near where I work.<br />2,5 k warmup, some gymnastics and then 5*800m@4'/1km with 200m rest.<br />Including cooldown, about 10k for today<br />Felt quite tough, but great fun, as I'm not very used to do interval training for running.<br />Let's see how I feel tommorrow.<br />Hope I will be able to start again with 2 runs a week.<br />

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