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[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 14th, 2004, 9:56 am

This is a C&P from the UK forum, so I apologise if you've already read it. Yesterday: Only 2 small sessions for me today so far. I did a 5k earlier, but this teatime's 2k test was good for me. It wasn't a best time. In fact, it's 6 seconds outside my best, but it felt important psychologically. First, I was trying to row at a lower stroke rate. Normally, my 2k pieces are done around 34/36 SPM. This evening's piece was done at more like 30. Secondly, I wasn't dead on the rower at the end. I wasn't puffing like a stream train. I didn't collapse in a heap on the living room carpet for 10 minutes. My foot didn't ache. No, it was a steady-paced row, still challenging, but not only wasn't I dying and praying for the end, but I felt in control and I was able to really up the pace at the end. I got off the rower afterwards and after a few heavy, deep breaths I felt like I'd done almost any other row. I'm not entirely sure what I take from this, other than I can row a 7:20 piece quite comfortably now, so I should hopefully be able to push that 7:13.5 down a bit when I'm in the mood to go all-out. Split/SR comparisoon is below. As you can see, I was quite a lot behind my PB pace for most of the thing, but that kick in the last 300m really started to bring the avg pace down. If I can row more steady 1:50 splits, and start the kick for home a bit sooner, that may well be enough to get me under 1:48.4 and a new PB. I haven't done the maths though. =) </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'> 2k best 7:13.5 2k TEST 7:19.2 ------------------ ------------------ Split Avg SR Split Avg SR 100 1:49.00 1:49.00 33 1:54.50 1:54.50 29 200 1:48.00 1:48.50 33 1:50.50 1:52.50 30 300 1:47.00 1:48.00 34 1:51.00 1:52.00 30 400 1:46.00 1:47.50 34 1:51.50 1:51.88 30 500 1:47.00 1:47.40 31 1:50.50 1:51.60 30 600 1:46.50 1:47.25 34 1:51.00 1:51.50 30 700 1:47.50 1:47.29 34 1:52.00 1:51.57 29 800 1:47.50 1:47.31 34 1:51.00 1:51.50 30 900 1:47.00 1:47.28 34 1:51.00 1:51.44 30 1000 1:48.00 1:47.35 36 1:51.00 1:51.40 32 1100 1:49.00 1:47.50 33 1:51.50 1:51.41 30 1200 1:48.50 1:47.58 33 1:51.00 1:51.38 32 1300 1:48.00 1:47.62 36 1:51.00 1:51.35 30 1400 1:49.00 1:47.71 33 1:50.50 1:51.29 33 1500 1:50.50 1:47.90 33 1:50.00 1:51.20 30 1600 1:50.00 1:48.03 35 1:50.50 1:51.16 30 1700 1:51.00 1:48.21 32 1:49.00 1:51.03 33 1800 1:49.00 1:48.25 36 1:45.00 1:50.69 31 1900 1:50.00 1:48.34 33 1:43.00 1:50.29 35 2000 1:50.00 1:48.42 36 1:41.50 1:49.85 38  </td></tr></table> I dunno, although it was 6 seconds outside my best, I just feel really good about it. =) I wish I'd had the heart rate monitor on, so I could compare my pulse between the two. Today: If you read my post in the "What training have you done today" thread last night, you'll have seen that I did a 2k test piece. It was 6 seconds outside my PB, but that wasn't the point. The point was that it was a controlled piece that didn't leave me exhausted, and made me feel good. At the end of the piece I said: <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>If I can row more steady 1:50 splits, and start the kick for home a bit sooner, that may well be enough to get me under 1:48.4 and a new PB. I haven't done the maths though. =)  </td></tr></table> Well, I decided to give that a go today. I also remembered to put the heart rate monitor on. Well, the result was, as I'd hoped, a new 2k PB. Down from 7:13.5 to a new 7:11.9. What's more, my stroke rate was way down on normal (27/28) instead of the 33/34 of my previous best. I held quite steady 1:49 / 1:50 splits until 500m to go, and then I ramped it up. Judging by the heart rate read out, I could have kicked harder, and sooner. Incredibly (to my mind), my end heart rate was only what I'd hit after a mere 700m of the previous best. I'm dead chuffed with this, again because I felt I rowed within myself, and although I was more out of breath today than after my test row yesterday, I had gone 8 seconds faster, and I didn't collapse on the floor anything like as much as I normally after a 2k attempt. Splits, SR and HR scores on the doors follow: </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'> Sepember 28th October 14th -------------- -------------- Pace SR HR Split SR HR 100 1:49.00 33 153 1:51.00 30 129 200 1:48.00 33 164 1:49.00 30 142 300 1:47.00 34 167 1:49.50 27 148 400 1:46.00 34 170 1:50.00 25 152 500 1:47.00 31 172 1:49.50 27 157 600 1:46.50 34 174 1:49.00 27 161 700 1:47.50 34 176 1:49.00 28 163 800 1:47.50 34 177 1:49.00 28 164 900 1:47.00 34 178 1:50.00 27 166 1000 1:48.00 36 178 1:50.00 27 167 1100 1:49.00 33 179 1:49.50 25 169 1200 1:48.50 33 179 1:49.00 28 170 1300 1:48.00 36 183 1:49.00 30 170 1400 1:49.00 33 180 1:49.50 27 171 1500 1:50.50 33 180 1:47.50 28 172 1600 1:50.00 35 181 1:45.50 31 173 1700 1:51.00 32 182 1:44.50 35 174 1800 1:49.00 36 182 1:43.00 32 174 1900 1:50.00 33 182 1:43.50 35 175 2000 1:50.00 36 183 1:43.00 38 176 ------- ------- Avg Pace: 1:48.42 1:48.00 Time: 7:13.5 7:11.9 </td></tr></table>

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » October 14th, 2004, 10:06 am

Hi ya Taffs. I'm back (not for long though, off to Thailand tomorrow). What a wonderful honeymoon. If you've never been to the Carribean, I highly recommend it. As you can see by the meters, there was a erg on the ship. What's one of the strangest things in the world? Erging on a moving ship. If you've ever done it, then you know what I mean. Welcome aboard all you new Taffs. The recuiting has been good lately eh Chris? Haven't been able to read through all of the posts since I've been out, but I did see a couple of things. 1. Rickster - Happy B-Day. 2. The interviews are great!! Funny stuff man!!!! I've got to go for now. Lot's of stuff to do before I leave tomorrow. FYI - I'll have an erg at the hotel, so I'll be able to put in meters while I'm there (two weeks this time!!). I should also be able to check in periodically. So I won't be completely out of touch with the rest of you. Erg on!!!! Speedy

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 14th, 2004, 10:12 am

300,000m on honeymoon? You crazy SOB. Enjoy Thailand!

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 14th, 2004, 10:14 am

Great Job Daren!! No wonder you feel so pleased with yourself. It seems to me your first test run was very important as it gave you the knowledge and confidence to determine what rate you were probably capacble of achieving. Your live 2K just confirmed it. Don't forget to update your signature as it still has the 7:13 time. I'm planning on doing exactly what you've just done next Wednesday and do a test 2K. My target is 7:20 so I'll be looking at 1:50 splits. I also must add how impressed I was to read you'd completed your million metres in 50 days, that's a fantastic rate, well done!

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 14th, 2004, 10:20 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>300,000m on honeymoon?  </td></tr></table> Speedy, you're a mad man!! But that's what we like about you!! Way to go. Bet that put the frighteners on the Canadian who's just pipping you for first place on the Annual Meters Honor Board. Wont be long til you're back in your rightful place on top! I haven't tried erging on a cruise ship but I know how difficult it was to try and look cool dancing in the nightclub while the ship bucked in a force 10 gale! Welcome back, it's great to hear from you.

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » October 14th, 2004, 10:24 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Niall @ Oct 14 2004, 02:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Speedy, you're a mad man!!  </td></tr></table> Now thats a thought, all's fair in love, war and Indoor Rowing Clubs. MAD I.R.C Sir Pirate

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 14th, 2004, 10:42 am

I should have been more specific. What I should have said was: Speedy, you're a mad Taffian! Hands off Sir Pirate, go pillage someone else's team! Grrrrrrrr!!!!

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » October 14th, 2004, 11:13 am

Niall You know what Pirates do don't you??..............YES!!................They steal things Sir "stealy" Pirate

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » October 14th, 2004, 11:38 am

Hi Dwayne Glad you had a great time in the Caribbean. Even gladder you're back. Daren that's an excellent time for the 2K, especially as it still doesn't seem as though you are going all out. For what it's worth I row the 2k at 31/32 spm. At that rate, you'll be very close to going under 7 minutes at BIRC!! Brilliant stuff. Niall, I don't look cool dancing on dry land, so I would hate to think how uncool I looked dancing on a ship. Go walk a plank Sir "Stealy" Pirate, Dwayne's staying with us!! Get it??? Bernard

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » October 14th, 2004, 11:54 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Prufrock @ Oct 14 2004, 03:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Go walk a plank Sir "Stealy" Pirate, Dwayne's staying with us!! Get it??? Bernard </td></tr></table> <img src='http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticon ... ese095.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[old] chippy · Post by **[old] chippy** » October 14th, 2004, 3:02 pm

Darren Nice Row on the 2k,Faster time and a lower heart rate you got to be happy with that,but it does mean with Chris and myself screaming in your ear at the BIRC you will have do better. Speedy True Taff spirit training on your honeymoon,Check your birth certificate you must be from the Valleys. Have a great part 2 holiday.Dont worry about the Pirate if he gets to close we will sink his boat. Sue Well done hitting 200,000 in such a short time,saying that if Graham was behind me i would be getting a move on. Graham Only a stone throw away from 200,000,Put the whiskey glass down and get back on the ergo. Chippy

[old] DavidA · Post by **[old] DavidA** » October 14th, 2004, 3:04 pm

Sorry about the long post, but I enjoy all the reparte in this thread. I also thought that it would be interesting to see how the teams compare when looking at the mean number of meters per member rather than total meters. In this list that puts Taff Attack at 29th, and even the Ancient Mariners are 15th. So... more challenges for the team members. </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>Rank Team # members total m mean m 1 Oberlin SMU CMU 1 4,595,573 4595573 2 LCS '79/ WLU ' 83 1 3,015,577 3015577 3 Royal College Colombo 7 1 2,805,500 2805500 4 Simfit, Simcoe 1 2,337,936 2337936 5 Butler University 1 2,115,000 2115000 6 stafford international 1 2,105,593 2105593 7 University of Glasgow 1 1,936,617 1936617 8 UCR, UIUC GSLIS 1 1,865,178 1865178 9 York University / Loyola College 1 1,751,260 1751260 10 University of British Columbia 1 1,740,805 1740805 11 Decathlon Bordeaux-Lac 2 3,350,412 1675206 12 St, John's College Annapolis 1 1,585,575 1585575 13 Texas A&M University 2 2,977,503 1488752 14 Royal College 7 9,844,978 1406425 15 Ancient Mariners 29 40,024,792 1380165 16 Washington State University 4 5,271,190 1317798 17 Erg Monkeys 3 3,919,489 1306496 18 Viking Rowing Club 2 2,264,933 1132467 19 Lemons Rowing Club 2 2,121,086 1060543 20 TEAM OARSOME IRC 22 23,035,452 1047066 21 Wesleyan University 3 3,108,158 1036053 22 Austin Rowing Club 2 2,057,804 1028902 23 Scotus Ergus 2 2,054,799 1027400 24 northwestern michigan college 3 3,031,787 1010596 25 Norwich University 2 1,927,411 963706 26 HAVK Mladost, Gubec 9 7,857,793 873088 27 Old Wrecks 3 2,546,945 848982 28 University of California, San Diego 2 1,634,060 817030 29 Taff Attack 19 15,327,707 806721 30 BluesTravelers 2 1,527,198 763599 31 McGill University 3 2,116,300 705433 32 University of Notre Dame 5 3,467,957 693591 33 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 28 18,417,899 657782 34 University of New Brunswick 3 1,973,208 657736 35 Syracuse Chargers Rowing Club 6 3,679,424 613237 36 University of Iowa 5 2,985,364 597073 37 Fana Roklubb 3 1,779,548 593183 38 Rutgers College 5 2,952,324 590465 39 Dartmouth College 10 5,896,641 589664 40 Riverfront Recapture 3 1,712,822 570941 41 Chautauqua Lake OM Rowers 3 1,698,153 566051 42 Université de Dakar 10 5,606,418 560642 43 queen's university belfast 10 5,429,129 542913 44 Maple Bay Rowing Club 18 9,758,873 542160 45 Prince William Rowing Club 5 2,684,279 536856 46 Rice University 3 1,557,076 519025 47 Forum Flyers 20 10,355,621 517781 48 Arizona Outlaws 10 5,059,838 505984 49 University of New Mexico 24 11,906,822 496118 50 McDowell Tribe 4 1,967,965 491991  </td></tr></table>

[old] Bore Da! · Post by **[old] Bore Da!** » October 14th, 2004, 4:08 pm

Dwayne, I see your online - hows it goin mate?

[old] Bore Da! · Post by **[old] Bore Da!** » October 14th, 2004, 4:22 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I also thought that it would be interesting to see how the teams compare when looking at the mean number of meters per member rather than total meters. </td></tr></table> David (Dai?) A valid and well thought out argument, well done. I bet you will be toastie warm throughout the winter months under your HUGE ANORAK!!! Try this website out for size <a href='http://www.anorak.100megs6.com/index.html' target='_blank'>we're nearly as sad as you guys rowing every night!!!</a> Row On Mate, Chris.

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » October 14th, 2004, 9:20 pm

Speedy! Welcome back! I can't believe you ROWED on your honeymoon! What, do you have a GOAL or something???? Well, I guess Mrs. Speedy must be used to your vice already... Daren: Great news about your 2Ks. It feels a LOT better to row with a more powerful stroke, doesn't it? You're a true contender! Hey Sue you're toting up the meters pretty quick. Are you and Graham competing? 29th....come on...that's not good enough!!!! We Taffs are made of sterner stuff, right? Each of us needs to row a bit more than twice the amount we currently do to catch up to Royal College. OK, time to get off my duff... Carla

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