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[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 5th, 2004, 6:13 am

How about a sub 7:00 2K at BIRC Daren ??? Martin

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 5th, 2004, 6:31 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 5 2004, 11:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> How about a sub 7:00 2K at BIRC Daren ???  </td></tr></table> Aye, well, if it happens it happens. =) I've only been sub-7:15 once (although I haven't actually tried it again since I did that). BIRC is a good 6 or 7 weeks away though, so who knows. My efforts are somewhat curtailed in the exertion stakes at the moment because the garage is cold and damp, and I fear I will do horrid things to my chest if I work too hard in that atmosphere. =/

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » October 5th, 2004, 7:14 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Daren C @ Oct 5 2004, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> I have the advantage of not following a programme. =) Although I'm entered in the BIRC, I'm not training for it per se.  </td></tr></table> Hi Daren Your point is valid. I guess time and resources constrain what and when I can do things. Normally, I would want to take your approach. Unfortunately, I don't own a concept2, so I have to use whatever time I have available as profitably as possible. The programme has helped take my 2000m time from over 9 minutes to about 7.30 - my BIRC goal for this year - in four months. The programme also has the right balance of aerobic, anaerobic and power training I need for what I'm trying to achieve, which is just a reasonable 2000m time to begin with. There will be time for the other timed pieces. There is also a good scientific basis for the rows in the programme, which aims to get the best out of you at a given point at a given time. Why not expect the best for yourself? I find it difficult to 'drift' along and anyway, next year's training will seem a lot easier because of this year's training. Like yourself I'm just getting used to how things feel. In the end we all have to do whatever makes our toes curl; this works for me, but only for the time being. You have done a hell of a lot of kms for the time you've been rowing and you're rowing very good times as well. Are your timed rows taken from training rows or do you set aside time to do the timed row? I'm very impressed. Bernard

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 5th, 2004, 7:38 am

To be honest, I just do what I feel like at the time. I'm very lucky in that I have the rower at home, and I also work from home. I'm able to normally fit in 30 mins before work, 30 mins at lunchtime and 30 mins when the kids are in bed. At the weekends I can easily find 60 or 90 minutes. With regard to my set piece times, I just see how I feel, normally. I'll go out to the garage for my half hour's row, and think "hey, I think I'll have a go at a PB today!" I tend to tackle times that are the oldest first, so if I feel like going all out I'll see what time I could do. Might be 5k, might be 30 minutes. I try to do a 2k once every couple of weeks or so, and I'll do a 500m if I just want to do an extra little row just for fun. =) I think I've just been lucky insofar as I was pretty unfit when I started, but have responded well to my "just do it" approach. I've no doubt that my improvements will slow up (probably pretty soon) and I'll have to take a clever approach to training if I want to get better. Ultimately, however, it's really just a case of doing exercise for me. Going faster is a bonus. Today, I did 10k this morning. I'm going out to the garage now, but I'm not in the mood to tackle anything too demanding. My C-Breeze arrived this morning, so I'll attach that and try it out. I'm aiming to do at least 7km of steady rowing. Once I've done the 7k, I'll see how I feel and I might press on for 8, or 9, or even 10 again. =)

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » October 5th, 2004, 7:56 am

Yeah Daren I'm a bit envious, not of you working from home, but because you don't have to organise when and how you row. I'm looking forward to owning my own concept2 machine, then I wouldn't have to be so disciplined in my approach to erging. I have to admit there are times when I have to force myself to train, because I'm not sure when I'm going to fit in my next sesh. Mustn't grumble though, at least I get to contact some nice people here in Taff Attack and throughout the forum. I'm doing a 12k row this evening to set me up for the short stuff I'll be doing for the rest of the week. Have a good row Bernard

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 5th, 2004, 8:45 am

I had a good row. =) I set off at a conservative pace, but picked it up at the end. The last 10 mins were done around 1:59/2:00 pace and I sneaked a few extra metres on my 30 minute best (7440 up from 7416). I might have a proper go at 30 mins again later. Finished off with another 3k to cool down.

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » October 5th, 2004, 8:59 am

hi Daren Congratulations on your pb! The extra metres are good too! Good luck later. Bernard

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » October 5th, 2004, 10:23 am

Wow, you guys really are inspiring! Phrases like "10K cool down" and "sneaking a few extra meters on my 30 min best" (as the tail end of a longer row!) make me feel like I'm just messing around over here! You guys are a bunch of PB machines! It is a clear advantage to have your own machine. For instance, I really need to row later in the day--morning just isn't good because of flexibility--and it either has to be before dinner (hard to squeeze in, so dinner ends up late and my family starves) or way after dinner. Most of my best rows, like last night's HM, start at around 10:30 or 11:00 pm. I don't know too many health clubs that are open that late! Erg on! Carla

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » October 5th, 2004, 11:19 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 5 2004, 01:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Godfried @ Oct 4 2004, 04:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>And is it allowed to call this a <a href='http://concept2.van-diepen.nl/double_play.pdf' target='_blank'>double-play</a> ? </td></tr></table> Godfried, If I read this and your other post correctly, have you just done a sub 3.10.00 marathon ? If so then heartiest congratulations on a (very) well planned and executed Marathon row (if not then I've lost something in the Dutch - Welsh - Aussie 'translation'). Your efforts will inspire me when it comes to my turn. Good on you mate (Aussie for 'Jolly well done old chap') Martin  </td></tr></table> Nothing was lost in the translation - I did it. I needed 20 k for the first million, so fail or succeed : the day would have a good result ; and had two. Just click on the link. P.S. Watched a lot of 'Flying Doctors' back in the 80's - and they are on rerun now ; so some Aussie is understood.

[old] Bayko · Post by **[old] Bayko** » October 5th, 2004, 11:20 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 5 2004, 06:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> I tend to row 'at the edge' for my inaugural long distance attempts, figuring that as I'm not going to do this that often I might as well make it a good one. Impatient to set a lowest possible time, there have been no 'easy' exploratory rows at the distance attempted thus far!! Guess I'll learn. Reassuring to hear one can quite often negatively split a marathon whilst still going out on target pace. I've done that with all my inaugural long distance rows and would like to do the same in the FM. At this stage I'm dreaming of a 2.50 time, having done one HM in 1.24, after doing a few more HM's as a lead up - is this realistic in your experience ?  </td></tr></table> I had much the same attitude approaching my first. At the time I had never gone more than 60:00 at a time (sore bum), and when I determined to do a marathon "no matter what" I started by making Sunday my "long row" day with the goal of adding 10% to my longest every Sunday until reaching a full marathon. In reality, once I hit 2:00:00 I decided to make the leap a week later, and did so successfully. From what I remember about marathon training for running, the 2 hour workout gives about the optimum capillary and mitochondria development. I think that it's worth stretching out those half-marathons to 2 hours if at all possibe. As to doing sub 2:50:00, when I broke through that I was also doing just under 1:23:00 for the half-marathon, 15,425m for 60:00 and 38:15 for 10km. My pace differential between the full and half was 2.4sec/500m. I'm more of an endurance guy, so that's probably a smaller differential than the average. Ranger's Double the D add 3sec/500m, and Paul Smith's Double the D add 5 sec/500m are probably more realistic. Good luck with it. It gives a nice sense of accomplishment. Rick

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » October 5th, 2004, 11:24 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (seat5 @ Oct 5 2004, 09:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Wow, you guys really are inspiring! ... make me feel like I'm just messing around over here! Most of my best rows, like last night's HM, start at around 10:30 or 11:00 pm  </td></tr></table> Hi Carla I have to work very late or very early sometimes, so I have an idea how tiring that can be. So rowing a half marathon at 11.00pm is a little tough in my book. I'm not sure I could do that. To tell the truth I don't think I could row a half marathon at any time? I think you're the inspiring one fitting in the mighty rows between your family and your music. You play in an orchestra, right? Now that, to me, is cool! . which orchestra do you play in, if you don't mind me asking? Daren's PBing just for fun these days. Bernard

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » October 5th, 2004, 12:01 pm

Hey Carole Thanks for the encouragement, things are doing pretty well. Improved technique (mainly, learning to tighten stomach muscles at the catch), rowing at 10MPS, etc., made that a relatively easy row--other efforts resulted in lots of soreness, pulled hamstrings (from using the straps--don'tuse them any more), and thrown out lower back--got up today a little sleepyish feeling but perfectly fine otherwise. I won't be working on really speeding that up until I can row an HM and feel like I did nothing. What do you do for work? Sounds like some really long days going on! Carla

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 5th, 2004, 12:40 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Prufrock @ Oct 5 2004, 01:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Congratulations on your pb! The extra metres are good too! Good luck later.  </td></tr></table> Thanks! It did me good. =) After my cold 30 mins earlier, I decided to warm up a bit for my real attempt this afternoon. I did 1.5k as a warm up, then hit the 30 min test. The result was a new 30min PB of 7,617m. All of my average splits (90 second segments) were under 2:00 pace. The last 90 seconds worked out at 1:47, so I had a strong finish and could probably have worked harder, earlier without totally blowing up. Finished off with a 2k cool down. That's another 11k or so in the Taffybank. \o/

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » October 5th, 2004, 1:02 pm

Amazing stuff Daren! You murdered your pb! I was going to say keep it up, but I don't think you need me to motivate you. Bernard

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » October 5th, 2004, 1:06 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Daren C @ Oct 5 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>The result was a new 30min PB of 7,617m. </td></tr></table> Congratulations , all you need to do now is update your signature. And try again, this old man is still 29 meters faster. I see you listed LP , what is that?

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