What Training Have You Done Today???

[old] Rocket Roy · Post by **[old] Rocket Roy** » December 25th, 2004, 2:07 pm

Another 15k this afternoon. 30k for the day.

[old] Byron Drachman · Post by **[old] Byron Drachman** » December 25th, 2004, 3:21 pm

A guilty conscience made me row today. I've eaten like a pig the last couple of days. Now that I've rowed, I think I'll go back to the *** DELETE - SPAM *** and finish off that pumpkin pie. There are some cookies left and other goodies that need to be finished off. I know I'll eat them eventually so I might as well get rid of them today. I'm the only who has no self-control around the holidays, right? Byron

[old] GeorgeD · Post by **[old] GeorgeD** » December 25th, 2004, 3:23 pm

A great quote from a Xmas present recieved yesterday goes something like this and relevant for some people of late and all of us no doubt at some time: "Champions experience two types of training session, good ones,- and ones they learn from." I guess if we have this sort of approach (to a bad session) then we should never say a session was wasted if we take the time to learn what happened and why! - George ps I like the one where when being interviewed by a reporter after coming from no where to win a major even the athlete said in reply to a question: - "Yes it has only taken me 10 years of training to become an 'overnight' success" - Sometimes we need to remind ourselves there are no shortcuts

[old] Mark Keating · Post by **[old] Mark Keating** » December 25th, 2004, 5:36 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Byron Drachman @ Dec 25 2004, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>A guilty conscience made me row today. I've eaten like a pig the last couple of days. Now that I've rowed, I think I'll go back to the *** DELETE - SPAM *** and finish off that pumpkin pie. There are some cookies left and other goodies that need to be finished off. I know I'll eat them eventually so I might as well get rid of them today. I'm the only who has no self-control around the holidays, right? Byron </td></tr></table> Byron, your strategy sounds similar to mine regarding the excesses of the festive season. Get rid of (read: "eat")all the goodies as quick as you can, hopefully through over-consumption one will develop choco-toxemia and be turned off the sweet stuff forever. It hasn't worked yet, but where there's a will, there's a way right? In the meantime I take solace in the fact that by eating everything in sight I am reducing the likelihood that my kids will suffer from obesity. I'd like to chat some more, but it's time to waddle over to the supper table again.

[old] Mark Keating · Post by **[old] Mark Keating** » December 25th, 2004, 5:43 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (GeorgeD @ Dec 25 2004, 07:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Sometimes we need to remind ourselves there are no shortcuts  </td></tr></table> Sound advice George. I occasionally have to remind myself that it took 15 years of relative inactivity to take me from being a reasonably fit, relatively good athlete to being a fat guy with little muscle tone; so I shouldn't expect to recover all that I've lost in the first 15 workouts or even the first 15 months on the erg. Gotta think long term, gotta think lifestyle change.

[old] Bill · Post by **[old] Bill** » December 25th, 2004, 8:11 pm

Hello, After two months off .... bashed my shins on a car trailer ..... some colourful bruises and swearing 25/12 slow steady 8k 2:09 avg pulse 149 26/12 steady 10k 2:10 avg pulse 146 Plan is to do two weeks slow steadies as above and then slowly become more serious back up to 8k s10ps @ 1:57 that gets me back to where I was ............then get a bit better again Then the elusive 7:00 2k Bill

[old] Byron Drachman · Post by **[old] Byron Drachman** » December 25th, 2004, 8:27 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>In the meantime I take solace in the fact that by eating everything in sight I am reducing the likelihood that my kids will suffer from obesity. wink.gif I'd like to chat some more, but it's time to waddle over to the supper table again. </td></tr></table> Mark, I should remind you that it is well known that slivers of goodies eaten while leaning over the sink contain no calories, and broken cookies contain negative calories. So just lean over the sink and break those cookies and you'll lose weight. So you can back off a little on the erging. Furthermore, I read recently on the internet that ice cream is an excellent food for people trying to lose weight. Ice cream contains no calories. You see, a calorie is a measurement of heat, and since ice cream is frozen, there is no heat and therefore no calories. Since I read that on the internet, it must be true. Byron

[old] chickenlegs · Post by **[old] chickenlegs** » December 25th, 2004, 9:56 pm

rowed 13 km at 1:50.0 @ 21 spm. still a pain in the glutes - fortunately a fellow erger sat on the erg next to mine and rowed the last 2 km with me, stroking the same rate. always a bit harder by yourself, I think.

[old] Rocket Roy · Post by **[old] Rocket Roy** » December 26th, 2004, 7:22 am

nice row there Chicken legs, some power there Day of rest for me today

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » December 26th, 2004, 12:10 pm

Recovery row today. 21097m 1:57.8 (82:52.3) at 22spm. Sir Pirate

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » December 26th, 2004, 12:18 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Dec 26 2004, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Recovery row today. 21097m 1:57.8 (82:52.3) at 22spm. Sir Pirate </td></tr></table> Sir P-- Do you wear a heart rate monitor? If so, what was your heart rate during this row? UT2 for you is 1:51 at 22 spm and 120-140 bpm. ranger

[old] SteveV · Post by **[old] SteveV** » December 26th, 2004, 12:21 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (ranger @ Dec 26 2004, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Dec 26 2004, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Recovery row today. 21097m 1:57.8 (82:52.3) at 22spm. Sir Pirate </td></tr></table> Sir P-- Do you wear a heart rate monitor? If so, what was your heart rate during this row? UT2 for you is 1:51 at 22 spm and 120-140 bpm. ranger  </td></tr></table> how do you work that out, seems fast. The training paces in the C2 training manual were discounted months ago as being innacurate, is it these you are using

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » December 26th, 2004, 12:26 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> The training paces in the C2 training manual were discounted months ago as being innacurate </td></tr></table> Steve-- Oh, really? Sorry, I didn't know. If so, apologies for all of this hoopla this morning on UT2 pacing. Yes, indeed, I am just quoting out of the C2 training manual. Who "discounted" these paces? And if these paces were discounted, why are they still there? Yikes! This is pretty misleading information, if it is admittedly wrong! ranger

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » December 26th, 2004, 12:27 pm

Ranger I did not wear a monitor for this piece, when I do 30mins at 20-22spm I do them at anything between 1:55-2:00 pace. My HR at this pace varies between 130 - 140bpm. Those figures you are quoting, like Steve says, seem way too fast, I could not get any where near that pace with that HR. Sir Pirate

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » December 26th, 2004, 2:49 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>The training paces in the C2 training manual were discounted months ago as being innacurate </td></tr></table> Ah. The paces and rates are not inaccurate, or at least they don't seem to be. But the specified heart rate might be the problem. I was going from another chart that said that the UT2 training band was 130-140 bpm, given a maximum heart rate of 200 bpm. But the UT2 band goes up to 70% of MHR, and for me, this is 153 bpm. I _already_ row 1:52 at 22 bpm at 153 bpm (or below). ranger