Paul Smith's 5:36.8 For The 2k

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » August 29th, 2005, 12:12 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Aug 29 2005, 08:52 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>however the same calculations for Watts was something we could do<br /><br />and that the numbers would end up coinciding some 20 years later was certainly not known. [right] </td></tr></table><br />Neb,<br /><br />Paul is saying that his time of 5:36.8 for whatever distance, was the same as doing that time on a model D for the 2k.<br /><br />That is clear to me, and apparently a lot of people believe him, that it is, whether they are coming out directly to say it or as ambituous as he is in presentation, he and they are still giving that impression.<br />

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » August 29th, 2005, 12:13 pm

This is relevant because, either the time should be submitted and recogized as the current world record, above the times of Olympic Champions, no less.<br /><br />Or it's time to realize that it has nothing to do with a 2k on the model D, no more than someone rolling about the block for 5:36.8 on a skateboard.

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » August 29th, 2005, 12:23 pm

John,<br />Are you hallucinating?!?!? Are there drugs involved here???!

[old] csabour · Post by **[old] csabour** » August 29th, 2005, 12:46 pm

can a mod close this thread please? its actually <b>remarkably</b> stupid.

[old] Mark Keating · Post by **[old] Mark Keating** » August 29th, 2005, 1:17 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Aug 29 2005, 11:23 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>John,<br />Are you hallucinating?!?!? Are there drugs involved here???! <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I would say 1) yes and <br />2) yes, but either not nearly enough or way way too much.<br /><br />What else could it be?

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » August 29th, 2005, 1:35 pm

Some of these responses, though full of passion or whatever, are a bit difficult to decipher.<br /><br />Should the time be promoted as a legitimate world record, or is it completely bogus, as it appears to be although still is promoted as otherwise.

[old] Porkchop · Post by **[old] Porkchop** » August 29th, 2005, 1:39 pm

<b><i><u>NO ONE CARES.</u></i></b>

[old] bmoore · Post by **[old] bmoore** » August 29th, 2005, 1:44 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Aug 29 2005, 01:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Some of these responses, though full of passion or whatever, are a bit difficult to decipher.<br /><br />Should the time be promoted as a legitimate world record, or is it completely bogus, as it appears to be although still is promoted as otherwise. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It's not a world record. I can't speak to the validity of the time, either way, but I don't think that a lack of definitive evidence makes the claim bogus.<br /><br />The claim is that he rowed a very fast time 22 years ago. OK, cool. I don't see any evidence that would suggest he's lying about it, but it doesn't really matter. Let it go. You're too worked up over this.

[old] Polaco · Post by **[old] Polaco** » August 29th, 2005, 3:04 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Aug 29 2005, 11:23 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>John,<br />Are you hallucinating?!?!? Are there drugs involved here???! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Maybe it's the purslane he grows at his garden and eats... John have you made any genetic manipulation with this innocent grass???

[old] Neb154 · Post by **[old] Neb154** » August 29th, 2005, 3:07 pm

Its like arguing with someone who thinks like a 4 year old. I'm done with John and this topic.

[old] bmoore · Post by **[old] bmoore** » August 29th, 2005, 3:10 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Neb154 @ Aug 29 2005, 03:07 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Its like arguing with someone who thinks like a 4 year old. I'm done with John and this topic. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Yes, but I can send my 4 year old to the corner. It's the two year old that won't stay in the corner that's the problem.

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » August 29th, 2005, 3:35 pm

As annoying as this has all been, I will admit that's it's been entertaining as well. The forum hasn't seen this type of bantor in some time.<br /><br />Dwayne

[old] Mark Keating · Post by **[old] Mark Keating** » August 29th, 2005, 3:41 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Aug 29 2005, 12:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Some of these responses, though full of passion or whatever, are a bit difficult to decipher. </td></tr></table><br />I'm not sure if you are referring to my original response, but if you find the word "idiot" truly difficult to decipher go to dictionary.com.<br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Should the time be promoted as a legitimate world record, or is it completely bogus, as it appears to be although still is promoted as otherwise.<br /> </td></tr></table><br />It can't be promoted as a legitimate WR since it doesn't meet C2's parameters, and neither Paul nor anybody else is suggesting that his time be recorded as such, except for yourself for some strange (but not terribly surprising) reason.<br /><br />Obviously though, anything sub 6 is world class, and while Paul's time shouldn't be officially recorded as a WR, to dismiss it as completely bogus is just as wrong in my opinion. In fact, there are likely more reasons for other forumites to question your 7:20ish PB (and mine) than Paul's 5:36. <br /><br />The louder you flap your cakehole and the more often you do it, John, the more doubt will be cast your way rather than Paul's or anybody else's. But if that's what really turns your crank, have at it. You are indeed one of a kind.<br /><br />

[old] holm188 · Post by **[old] holm188** » August 29th, 2005, 9:19 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Aug 28 2005, 10:53 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>The current world record is 5:37.0 by Mathis Siejkowski, also Olympic Champion on the water, 6'10, 230 pounds. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Was Mathis Siejkowski really olympic champion? I think he was not even rowing world champion (on water i mean).<br /><br />Whereas to Paul's past performance, if you find it hard to believe, well so what?<br /><br />As it was manually timed and on the odometer it is hard to get the 4.0 very exactly, it does probably not qualify for a WR.<br /><br />At his time +/- 5 seconds I think it can be right.<br /><br />But then is it that important? The ones who follow Paul's advice as coach do not do it because of his past performance. Same as your level of performance does not make your statements on this forum more right or wrong, it is mind/thinking or lack thereof behind the statements.

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » August 29th, 2005, 9:31 pm

An interview with Matthias Siejkowski right after his record.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.row2k.com/features/features. ... =read&ID=5' target='_blank'>http://www.row2k.com/features/features. ... ad&ID=5</a>

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