Dwayne

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » January 4th, 2005, 5:23 am

Dwayne-- Are you going to race in the CRASH-Bs this year? ranger

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » January 4th, 2005, 9:39 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (ranger @ Jan 4 2005, 04:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Dwayne-- Are you going to race in the CRASH-Bs this year? ranger  </td></tr></table> I will not be there this year. I haven't been concentrating on the 2k for the past few months. I've been in the boat alot, concentrating on the Master's Worlds in Edmonton this coming July. Also working with three other guys for a 3k relay race that will be coming up the first weekend of Feb. So I'm not in the condition that I require of myself in order to make a good showing. How 'bout you? Dwayne

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » January 4th, 2005, 12:07 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I will not be there this year. I haven't been concentrating on the 2k for the past few months. I've been in the boat alot, concentrating on the Master's Worlds in Edmonton this coming July. Also working with three other guys for a 3k relay race that will be coming up the first weekend of Feb. So I'm not in the condition that I require of myself in order to make a good showing.  </td></tr></table> Sorry to hear you aren't going. Yes, I'm going to Boston. I will row in Toronto and Elkhart, too. ranger

[old] SimonB · Post by **[old] SimonB** » January 4th, 2005, 2:00 pm

Hi Ranger I'll be in Toronto for the CIRC (as a spectator this year). It will be good to see the face behind the name. I've never been to an IRC so it will be a new experience and a chance to see some 'real' rowers in action.

[old] Roland Baltutis · Post by **[old] Roland Baltutis** » January 4th, 2005, 10:56 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (ranger @ Jan 4 2005, 11:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Yes, I'm going to Boston. I will row in Toronto and Elkhart, too. ranger </td></tr></table> Ranger, Wise move to row at Toronto first before the big one at Boston. You really need it to get that "monkey off your back". With a "no show" at the last Crash Bs and last minute "stage fright" in London, going straight into Boston without a race would place enormous pressure on yourself. The longer you go without a major race the harder it would be to start a race. Of coarse you realize that whether people love you or hate you, there would be huge interest from the C2 erg community, in a well known personality like yourself, to see how you go. Surely that must be in the back of your mind when you race. You may be physically ready but do you think you are mentally prepared for the next big race? I'm curious to know Ranger, what are you doing to get youself mentally prepared? Keep it smooth, keep it relaxed Roland Baltutis

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 4th, 2005, 11:31 pm

He's rowing at 16 spm.

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » January 5th, 2005, 4:16 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Ranger, Wise move to row at Toronto first before the big one at Boston. You really need it to get that "monkey off your back". With a "no show" at the last Crash Bs and last minute "stage fright" in London, going straight into Boston without a race would place enormous pressure on yourself. The longer you go without a major race the harder it would be to start a race. </td></tr></table> Pretty sophomoric stuff, Roland. I'm surprised. <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Of course you realize that whether people love you or hate you, there would be huge interest from the C2 erg community, in a well known personality like yourself, to see how you go. Surely that must be in the back of your mind when you race. </td></tr></table> Sure, it's fun to perform, especially if there is interest in your performance. <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>You may be physically ready but do you think you are mentally prepared for the next big race? I'm curious to know Ranger, what are you doing to get youself mentally prepared?  </td></tr></table> Just the opposite, Roland. If I am physically ready, I have no problem with the psychological side of racing; and I don't race at all unless I am physically ready. So psychology doesn't have much to do with it, beyond the normal anticipation, stuggle to make weight, adrenaline dumps, and so forth, that are always associated with racing (for me). My mental preparation for racing is my physical preparation. "Racing" on the erg is pretty odd, anyway. I just row as hard as I can, concentrating on the business at hand. I don't pay any attention to the "competition." All out is all out. ranger

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » January 5th, 2005, 4:18 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (John Rupp @ Jan 4 2005, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>He's rowing at 16 spm. </td></tr></table> No, I am now rowing at 22-24 spm, not 16. Progress! ranger

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » January 5th, 2005, 4:29 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (SimonB @ Jan 4 2005, 01:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Hi Ranger I'll be in Toronto for the CIRC (as a spectator this year). It will be good to see the face behind the name. I've never been to an IRC so it will be a new experience and a chance to see some 'real' rowers in action.  </td></tr></table> Simon-- CIRC is a nice venue. You'll enjoy it. See you there. ranger P.S. I need to row 6:50 or so to qualify for Boston. Shouldn't be _too_ hard. A standard AT workout for me (if I keep following the C2 manual) will be 4 x 2K (5 minutes rest) at 6:44. In fact, if everything goes well in my sharpening, I think I might do 4 x 2K at 6:40.

[old] gw1 · Post by **[old] gw1** » January 5th, 2005, 4:32 pm

Ranger, Good luck in Boston and in breaking the record! Gary

[old] Thomas · Post by **[old] Thomas** » January 5th, 2005, 6:31 pm

Roland, you are a smart man. There was huge interest in Ranger rowing at the BIRC. His name came up in many conversations. I am not a fan but out of respect for Marilyn, who is (or was) a fan of Ranger and could not go to the BIRC, I was ready to film his race for her. I couldn't believe it when I saw his erg was empty to only find him sitting in the row behind me! I am like, "What the hell is going on?" And he had so many people encouraging him to just "jump over the wall and just get on the erg." It has to be "stage fright". Or, maybe, the attention of not rowing was worth the trip for him. Ranger was honored in the official race prgramme as the recepient of the Millennium Cup (awarded to the rower over 50 whose does awesomely) and now with the published attention for all X-thousands of rowers to see, why race? Let's even be more popular by doing nothing. If it is stage fright, perhaps Ranger is trying to re-invent himself to off set some personal embarrassment. Roland, I have gone back a couple of times to re-read your post and it just occurred to me there is a hint of, be it intentional or unintentional, "Ranger, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » January 5th, 2005, 7:18 pm

Thomas, really, what a bunch of crap! Your post could be referring to the namesake of this entire thread pretty easily, but what's with all the animosity toward Ranger? Sure he's an odd bird, but putting up with patently insulting posts should be reserved for posters who are patently insulting, not for someone like yourself.

[old] Thomas · Post by **[old] Thomas** » January 5th, 2005, 8:25 pm

Paul, I read what you wrote, I appreciate the vote of confidence in not being considered "patently insulting", and I just came up with a brilliant idea: I think I would feel more comfortable with a poll taken in regards to finding out if what I typed was a bunch a crap. It is 4:21 PM on the west coast which means probably alot of people in Europe won't see this until tomorrow. So, we will just see what happens. I will copy/paste the Thomas, really, what a bunch of crap! and put a "Yes" or "No" and copy the thread and a link to the thread. Thomas

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » January 5th, 2005, 9:11 pm

Taking a poll is kind of silly, but okay. It was still a load of rubbish, crock of crap, barrel of bullshit, etc... Why would a person show up and compete, probably win, only to be insulted later? Ranger launched himself into the indoor rowing scene, in what might be interpretted as a fairly brash way, but so what, he's shown quite a capacity to take as good as he gives, and some off the cuff psychobabble about the inner workings of a competitors mind, who has showed up and "proved it" already, is out of line. Anyway, we're all grown-ups, as well as "virtual friends", and friends don't let friends get too far off base without saying something about it. Unless of course we can get it on video tape.

[old] german answer · Post by **[old] german answer** » January 6th, 2005, 5:34 am

Hi Dwayne, congrats for your great results. I think the critics you receive the last days, is absolut not fair. Maybe some guys are frustrated, when they read your pb´s. Now some information: There are two guys in Germany which are going sub 6 as well (over 40). So I think it is not so unbelievable to do these times. On the other hand: They have no good results in water rowing. We say in Germany: You can row circles around them (especially over 2 k´s). Where is the problem? You can row your races on the erg with a very high lactate acid level, no wrong movements, no uncontroled catch, no brutal finish can give you a bad result. You need only one thing: Watt. Normaly you see a great difference in Erg rowing between good racers on the water and non rowers (or leisure rowers). The experienced water rower, tries to keep out all negative aspects of boat movement, and normally he keeps his technique on the erg. The training of the guys is more aerobic training, because with a too high lactate acid level, it is nearly impossibel to keep a proper technique and this is absolut necessary in the race on water. So what is the result: With a specific erg training, that combines a lot of power work, more anaerobic aspects (in comparison to water work), you can reach extreme good results on the erg. Whether you can use this training as a water exercise form, I have my doubts (and not only me). This is the great advantage for a non water rower on the erg and why the C2 rower is an excellent cross training machine for all sports. Jürgen Schwab

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