Us Indoor Rowing Team Selection

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I've lost the will to live </td></tr></table><br /><br />Pretty serious, Roy. <br /><br />The way C2 has been doing things, I've just lost the desire to do trials for the USIRT! <br /><br />Much less serious malady. Even leads to better health (and better training)!<br /><br />I learned my lesson well in 2003.<br /><br />Why bother to do a trial for the USIRT? The selection process isn't fair. It isn't based on the merit of the trails.<br /><br />ranger

[[old] R S T]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 21 2005, 09:13 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 21 2005, 09:13 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-NavigationHazard+Nov 20 2005, 11:11 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NavigationHazard @ Nov 20 2005, 11:11 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />In setting the altitude adjustment for Crash-B qualifying times done at the Mile High race in Denver, C2 seems to have decided to refer to the NCAA adjustments for Division I athletes running 3000m indoors in that city.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Perhaps but why stop there. Just use the marathon and subtract 5 minutes from his time! <br /><br />Rowing 2k is nothing like running a 3000 meters. Do you think Graham Benton or any other top hwt's could compete in a 3000 meter running race! Heck no!! A 2k on the erg is more like running a 400 meters, or an 800 meters at the most.<br /><br />And both of those events are FASTER AT ALTITUDE, not slower! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />I have heard it all now........ <br /><br />You are consistent John, I'll give you that.<br /><br /> What next? Why Lwts are better at Tiddlewinks? Why people with big heads are better at Scrabble? <br /><br />RichardT

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Nov 21 2005, 02:14 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Nov 21 2005, 02:14 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I've just lost the desire to do trials for the USIRT! <br /><br />Why bother to do a trial for the USIRT? The selection process isn't fair. It isn't based on the merit of the trails.<br /><br />ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Now if you could just lose the desire to be a ballbaby about it!<br /><br />Sure the selection is based, in part, on the merit of the trials. ("Have a fast 2k")<br />My guess would be that the other part goes something like this: "And not be a flaming crybaby arsehole!" (should be pretty easy to change the limiting factor).<br />Perhaps you just got those mixed up, not even doing the first and excelling in the opposite direction for the second.<br /><br />Is that what tenure teaches you?

[[old] johnnybike]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 21 2005, 05:29 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 21 2005, 05:29 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Now if you could just lose the desire to be a ballbaby about it!<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Whats a ballbaby? I can guess from the context, crybaby is the equivalent I suppose.

[[old] John Rupp]

The last top championships meeting at altitude were the 1968 Mexico City Olympics.<br /><br />400m results:<br />Lee Evans 43.86 WORLD RECORD<br />Larry James 43.97 betters precious WR<br /><br />800m results:<br />Ralph Doubell 1:44.3 WORLD RECORD<br />Wilson Kiprugat 1:44.5<br /><br />1500m results:<br />Kip Keino 3:34.9 OLYMPIC RECORD<br /><br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 21 2005, 02:29 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 21 2005, 02:29 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My guess would be that the other part goes something like this: "And not be a flaming crybaby arsehole!"[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Is that why you're not on the team??? <br />

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-johnnybike+Nov 21 2005, 02:34 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(johnnybike @ Nov 21 2005, 02:34 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 21 2005, 05:29 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 21 2005, 05:29 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Now if you could just lose the desire to be a ballbaby about it!<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Whats a ballbaby? I can guess from the context, crybaby is the equivalent I suppose. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Yes, same thing. Just trying to exercise the thesaurus a bit, lest I become repetitive.

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 21 2005, 02:36 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 21 2005, 02:36 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 21 2005, 02:29 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 21 2005, 02:29 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My guess would be that the other part goes something like this: "And not be a flaming crybaby arsehole!"[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Is that why you're not on the team??? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />No, I don't recall trying to get on the team.<br /><br />And besides, I've never been a flaming crybaby.

[[old] bmoore]

Careful, Paul. Consecutive postings is a dangerous sign...

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-bmoore+Nov 21 2005, 05:47 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(bmoore @ Nov 21 2005, 05:47 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Careful, Paul.  Consecutive postings is a dangerous sign... <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thanks Bill, I didn't mean to do that, but at least it was responding to two different posts rather than one that apparently needed to be sliced and diced, worse yet, to myself.

[[old] dennish]

George, When Graham was here last summer he gave me a "New Zealand" jacket with the feather Logo. I wear it every chance I get, very proud to do so. Where are you at? Graham and Anne brought lots of literature and pics about Whakatane (sorry about the spelling, my pronounciation is probably worse) and the Bay of Plenty and we had some excellent discussion about his adventure racing all over both islands. I must say I was totally taken with the place. Can't wait to get there. Only waiting for the better half to retire so we can go during your summer. ~~~ Thanks for the encouragement on the erg racing. I appreciate that. And fyi, my training buddy was here the other day with his GPS stuff and the altitude of my house is 7682 ft. If you bump into Graham at any regattas ask him about rowing at 9200 ft., I think he enjoyed it very much. See you in Boston? live well and strong. dennis

[[old] Thomas]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 21 2005, 01:13 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 21 2005, 01:13 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-NavigationHazard+Nov 20 2005, 11:11 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NavigationHazard @ Nov 20 2005, 11:11 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />In setting the altitude adjustment for Crash-B qualifying times done at the Mile High race in Denver, C2 seems to have decided to refer to the NCAA adjustments for Division I athletes running 3000m indoors in that city.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Perhaps but why stop there. Just use the marathon and subtract 5 minutes from his time! <br /><br />Rowing 2k is nothing like running a 3000 meters. Do you think Graham Benton or any other top hwt's could compete in a 3000 meter running race! Heck no!! A 2k on the erg is more like running a 400 meters, or an 800 meters at the most.<br /><br />And both of those events are FASTER AT ALTITUDE, not slower! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Comparing competitive rowing to competitive running does rowing an injustice. Comparing the effort to competitive swimming would be more suitable.<br />

[[old] John Rupp]

Thomas,<br /><br />Comparing with cycling is more accurate.<br /><br />Both have the aid of a machine.<br /><br />Neither swimming nor running have any outside mechanical aid.

[[old] Thomas]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 21 2005, 08:18 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 21 2005, 08:18 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thomas,<br /><br />Comparing with cycling is more accurate.<br /><br />Both have the aid of a machine.<br /><br />Neither swimming nor running have any outside mechanical aid. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />There are no mechanical aids in cycling or rowing.<br /><br />It is quite evident you have not done any competitive cycling, running, rowing, or swimming to know the differences and similarities among those activities.

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-Thomas+Nov 21 2005, 08:47 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Thomas @ Nov 21 2005, 08:47 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There are no mechanical aids in cycling or rowing.<br /><br />It is quite evident you have not done any competitive cycling, running, rowing, or swimming to know the differences and similarities among those activities. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thomas,<br /><br />You're almost as funny as Mike Caviston. <br /><br /><br />