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[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » September 14th, 2005, 2:00 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Lynsey @ Sep 14 2005, 12:55 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Niall, <br />the website looks very promising - are the stats for this season or lifetime best? I've gone backwards since last year and haven't got any times for this season as I've been following a training plan rather than doing set distances. As for suggestions - it'd be good to see some challenges up there for the team ... and that would probably get people going in and using the website. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Cheers Lynsey.<br /><br />The stats are currently PBs but I see no reason why we can't include season's bests aswell. It's <b>our</b> website and we'll do what we want with it. If we want SBs, then we'll have SBs!!!<br /><br />I'll see if I can make some progress on the website this weekend and include the challenges Carla and Martin have highlighted too.<br /><br />Thanks for the feedback.

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » September 14th, 2005, 3:35 pm

<span style='font-family:Impact'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><b>Call to arms Taffs!!!!</b></span></span><br /><br />We have approx. twice the amount of people in the Taff group than the Oarsome group. Why is it that we can't pass them in the standings?!??!?!??<br /><br />Time to get on the ergs and start erging!! Put in the meters. Put down the pint. Get it done. <br /><br />Do we really want the Brits to be better than the Welsh?? Honestly!!<br /><br />Speedy

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » September 14th, 2005, 4:36 pm

Hi all<br /><br /><br />Just finished the last workout of the week. Pulled 1'58" for the last 1500 metres. It helped stop my idle speculation on motivation.<br /><br />Carla, I'm never completely inactive. I was doing sporadic erg sessions. Hence the decision to buy an erg. I've never liked gyms; too many people training for reasons I don't really share e.g. not for love of the sport but more for what others may think of them.<br /><br />I guess 110k sounds a lot, but really it is only 1.5 hours erging a day, which, when you consider the medical profession suggests an hour of physical activity every day, is not really that much. In fact, I probably spend more time in the *** DELETE - SPAM *** - maybe not. I certainly spend more time playing or studying chess. I'm not a pub person and I probably only watch the Simpsons in the evening on telly, so I have plenty of time!!<br /><br />To me, motivation is internal and I suppose that's why I like this thread because the people here have to have that internal motivation just to keep coming here.<br /><br />Dwayne, I'm not sure what you mean by punch. Do you mean increase the tempo of my long rows or add some rows for speed and power endurance? When I start work proper - the week after next - I intend to add the sessions from the Australian Surfboat training guide you pointed me to. I won't have to change anything, just keep doing distance but mix the two power sessions into two long session per week. That should do me for the following six weeks. But if you think I could be doing something more effectively don't hesitate to tell me. Improvement and gain means a lot to me.<br /><br />Niall, thanks for the reaffirmation. One thing I've learned in my career is that it is very easy to demotivate the motivated. <br /><br />Everyone in Taff Attack is already fantastically motivated and great motivaters themselves.<br /><br />Nighty night<br />Bernard

[old] wilko51 · Post by **[old] wilko51** » September 14th, 2005, 4:46 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Niall @ Sep 14 2005, 03:00 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Bernard,<br /><br />You're doing exactly the right thing by taking things easy (if 110,000m can be called "easy" ). Your body will certainly be thankful in the long run and you'll find your return to form will be quicker. <br /><br />Martin,<br /><br />Stop teasing Chippy with 6:51s. Get down to business and get the sub-6:50 behind you so you can move on to the next PB challenge (1000m or 1609m?).<br /><br />Chippy,<br /><br />Hope you're not taking this from our Wonder Down Under. Get on the erg and bash out that sub-6:50 time while it's still night time in Oz!<br /><br />(See, I'm so fickle, I could be a woman!!).<br /><br />Mike W,<br /><br />How's that 2K training going? I'm hoping to go sub 7:08 at Enfield on September 25th so hope you're keeping coming along well. martin's quite rightly paired us off for a challenge and I look forward to hearing your progress. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Nial,<br /><br />I've been keeping the meters going and fancy my chances! I will have a bash Thursday or Friday and see where I've got to. I may have a secret weapon. I have found a model C in my local gym which seems to be faster than my home machine so 7.08 could be at risk. <br /><br />Mike

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » September 14th, 2005, 5:14 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Prufrock @ Sep 14 2005, 03:36 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Dwayne, I'm not sure what you mean by punch. Do you mean increase the tempo of my long rows or add some rows for speed and power endurance? When I start work proper - the week after next - I intend to add the sessions from the Australian Surfboat training guide you pointed me to. I won't have to change anything, just keep doing distance but mix the two power sessions into two long session per week. That should do me for the following six weeks. But if you think I could be doing something more effectively don't hesitate to tell me. Improvement and gain means a lot to me.<br /><br />Nighty night<br />Bernard <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Bernie,<br />Didn't really mean be more effective. Sorry for the confusion. I was just saying don't be shy about kicking in some heavy, intense stuff. As long as you don't over do it (i.e. overtrain). <br /><br />I was thinking that your body will probably adapt faster than you think. It's not like this is your very first time on an erg.

[old] Byron Drachman · Post by **[old] Byron Drachman** » September 14th, 2005, 5:24 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Time to get on the ergs and start erging!! Put in the meters. </td></tr></table> <br /><br />I'd love to but I'm having too much fun on the water these days. I usually put the boat in the water at 6 AM when it is still dark. The river is full of sculls with flashing lights. As Xeno says "The water is flat and there are no motorboat drivers to make our rowing lives slightly miserable." There is the MSU crew team, a club sport but not funded by the university. Those students are rowing because they love the sport. Then there are the MSU women varsity rowers, very good rowers, and finally there is the Lansing Oar and Paddle Club consisting of people of all ages, including geezers like me. Since I'm surrounded by excellent rowers going very fast, I'm under pressure to move the scull quickly so that I am not an obstruction like a big log or tree in the river. About 15K of trying to row efficiently and quickly and I'm ready to get out of the boat. Then I get home and often someone was to go cycling with me. I should un-retire so I could get a job and get some rest. <br /><br />I'm extremely interested in technique--the heavyweights can get away with just pulling hard, but I think for a lightweight with not a lot of muscle mass technique is absolutely crucial. Yesterday I asked one of the MSU coaches to see if there was something I should be working on as far as technique goes. She said my technique is good. I was happy to hear that, but of course there is always something that needs improvement--are the blades really squared before entry, did I keep the forward lean long enough during the drive, did the boat stay set, were both blades one width from the surface, did I connect at the beginning of the drive, did I get full compression at the catch, etc.? You get the idea. <br /><br />Thanks to Xeno Muller's DVD's, postings and help from Paul Smith, postings from Xeno, Mel and others, the technique is coming along. I'm still looking for that perfect stroke. Sometimes I do have a few strokes in a row that feel really good, with the boat moving fast (for me) and feeling like I'm apply a lot of power (for me) but strangely effortlessly. Those good strokes keep me coming back looking for more and I love the challenge. <br /><br />Byron<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » September 14th, 2005, 5:39 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Byron Drachman @ Sep 14 2005, 04:24 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Time to get on the ergs and start erging!! Put in the meters. </td></tr></table><br /><br />I'd love to but I'm having too much fun on the water these days.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />On water meters count towards team meters as well. You can't rank any of those pieces, but you can log them in as 'on water' meters.<br /><br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I'm extremely interested in technique--the heavyweights can get away with just pulling hard </td></tr></table><br /><br />I used to think the same thing. Just because I was a big powerfull erger, that my day in the boat would be a snap. Not so. It took me a long time to shake the 'hammer effect' (hammering away with power only), and I still tend to play into it alot when I'm rowing.<br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I'm still looking for that perfect stroke. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Aren't we all?!?!?<br /><br />

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » September 14th, 2005, 8:56 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Niall @ Sep 14 2005, 09:00 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br />Martin,<br /><br />Stop teasing Chippy with 6:51s. Get down to business and get the sub-6:50 behind you so you can move on to the next PB challenge (1000m or 1609m?).<br /><br />Chippy,<br /><br />Hope you're not taking this from our Wonder Down Under. Get on the erg and bash out that sub-6:50 time while it's still night time in Oz!<br /><br />(See, I'm so fickle, I could be a woman!!).<br /><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /> <br /><br />Congrats on the 5 Million and another classic post Niall (or should that be Nielle ??).<br /><br />Just for having a bit each way I'm adding a dark horse wildcard to your Challenge - Bernie Pru !<br /><br />So the TaffChalls are shaping up nicely -<br /><br />Niall, Mike W and Bernie P - first to sub 7:05 then the Big 7 O.<br /><br />Carla, Lynsey to do the 100K Challenge and first to 500K on the metres board (leaving Bore Da in their wake !).<br /><br />Godfried to dust the cobwebs off his erg and see if it is still working.<br /><br />OzT to shoot for the 1K PB - leaving only the HM to revisit for a full house x 2 of PBs (500m in 1:36.1 the other week sort of counts though hardly in Chippy/Bore Da's league).<br /><br />Martin <br />

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » September 15th, 2005, 5:07 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Sep 14 2005, 08:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>We have approx. twice the amount of people in the Taff group than the Oarsome group. Why is it that we can't pass them in the standings?!??!?!?? </td></tr></table><br /><br />Well, the harsh truth of the matter is that a good number of us simply don't use the erg that much and only a few <i>really</i> pile on the metres, while Oarsome have about 7 people all over 1 million already, and at least a couple over 2 million. We're slackers by comparison. =) Personally, I'm really down on the time I was erging last year. Then I was doing 3 half-hours each day on average (around 22k), but these days I tend to only climb aboard once (7km). I have to walk the dog, now, which consumes a fair chink of my avialable time. Maybe I should buy him a treadmill. =)<br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Sep 14 2005, 08:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Do we really want the Brits to be better than the Welsh?? Honestly!!<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I think you'll find that Wales is part of Great Britain.

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » September 15th, 2005, 5:12 am

I had a nightmare session this morning! Full details in my Blog but the headlines are basically; planned to do 6x500m, mental weakness set in half way through the 3rd set and I stopped <br /><br />Need to sort this out before Sunday's 4x750m session!! Back to the standard 30mins session tomorrow.<br /><br />As an aside, I decided to see what my resting heart rate now is (it was 52 last May). Settled down to some Red Hot Chili Peppers and U2 for half an hour and recorded my HR throughout. Took a couple of 30-45 second snapshots and calculated the average resting heart rate. Was really pleased to see it come out at <b>50bpm</b> <br />

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » September 15th, 2005, 6:41 am

Niall<br /><br /><br />Like the music, sorry to hear about the nightmare sesh! The determined, kick *ss Niall who made my life uncomfortable had better return immediately. <br /><br />Probably only a blip though. <br /><br />I just can't help myself!! I decided to split my 10k into 4x2500 with a minute in between, so I didn't get into too much of a rhythm and could hold a steady slow pace. <br /><br />Did that work? Did it h***. The first one was my wake up 2500 and so was reasonably slow, though I could feel the sap rising in me after about 1500 metres. <br /><br />The other 3 work periods were at 2.10/500 x 2 and 2.06/500 (both 18-20 spm). Naturally, I had to do a warm down(1k) as I really wasn't expecting to work so well. <br /><br />I'm looking forward to tonight's sesh, which will be slow! I can't stop thinking about food. I'm hungry all of the time. <br /><br />The first thing I do in the morning is row. I literally fall out of bed and get on the rower - I put some kit on first mind. <br /><br />Is this a good practice or should I eat or drink a little something first? <br /><br />Martin, I'm not in that kind of shape at the moment. Niall and Mike are way ahead of me. Having said that, I feel as though I'm getting stronger(physically and mentally) by the row. <br /><br />Speedy, as evidenced you were right! <br /><br />I'm going to cap my rows at 12k I think. I didn't finish my row until 7.00am this morning and don't want to eat into the day.<br /><br />regs<br />Bernard Pru

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » September 15th, 2005, 9:11 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Prufrock @ Sep 15 2005, 05:41 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br />I can't stop thinking about food. I'm hungry all of the time. <br /><br />The first thing I do in the morning is row. I literally fall out of bed and get on the rower - I put some kit on first mind. <br /><br />Is this a good practice or should I eat or drink a little something first? <br /><br />Martin, I'm not in that kind of shape at the moment. Niall and Mike are way ahead of me. Having said that, I feel as though I'm getting stronger(physically and mentally) by the row. <br /><br />Speedy, as evidenced you were right! <br /><br />I'm going to cap my rows at 12k I think. I didn't finish my row until 7.00am this morning and don't want to eat into the day.<br /><br />regs<br />Bernard Pru <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Bernie,<br />The constant hunger thing is telling me that you're changing your metabolism. Your body is craving nutrients, because it's burning them off so quickly. If you're trying to lose some weight, then this is a good thing. Having a little extra food (quality calories mind you) probably won't hurt you a bit.<br /><br />As far as rolling right out of bed and erging, that, too, is working on burning off fat. Since your body doesn't have any readily available fuel (i.e. you haven't eaten since the night before), it's forced to draw on its energy reserves (fat). Nothing wrong with this practice as long as you're not getting dizzy or feeling sick.<br />

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » September 15th, 2005, 11:43 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Daren C @ Sep 15 2005, 04:07 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Sep 14 2005, 08:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Do we really want the Brits to be better than the Welsh?? Honestly!!<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I think you'll find that Wales is part of Great Britain. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ok...I mispoke myself...I meant the English.

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » September 15th, 2005, 2:01 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Sep 15 2005, 08:11 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Bernie,<br />The constant hunger thing is telling me that you're changing your metabolism. Your body is craving nutrients, because it's burning them off so quickly. If you're trying to lose some weight, then this is a good thing. Having a little extra food (quality calories mind you) probably won't hurt you a bit.<br /><br />As far as rolling right out of bed and erging, that, too, is working on burning off fat. Since your body doesn't have any readily available fuel (i.e. you haven't eaten since the night before), it's forced to draw on its energy reserves (fat). Nothing wrong with this practice as long as you're not getting dizzy or feeling sick. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Speedy<br /><br />I used to be the proverbial calorie dustbin. If it was still for long enough I would eat it, but I'm a little more cautious now.<br /><br />I'm really not into diets and have never been a body fascist, though I like my clothes to look good on me. I could never starve or beat up on myself like that. My body only hates me when I do 2000m on a concept2. Training at AT causes it to complain a little.<br /><br />I have to admire Niall for losing all of his weight and I really should perhaps work something like that into my goals, but what the heck, I'd rather not focus on that, just do the work and reach performance goals I have set myself. Losing weight should happen as a byproduct and I suppose I prefer it that way. <br /><br />Obviously, there's no point having a mind if you can't change it, and maybe down the line as I get closer to fulfilling my true erging potential I will possibly change my eating habits.<br /><br />But I can honestly say I am one of those deluded people who quite likes himself the way he is and I simply accept the way I look. The world would not agree mind.<br /><br />These days I tend to eat only fish, chicken, fruit, nuts, pasta, bread and rice, but not in any particular quantity. I like the taste of those foods and am one of those lunatics who grew up on fish and could eat it morning, noon and night. Most people would be disgusted at that thought! <br /><br />I do tend to drink mostly water or cordials and I've never been able to stand tea or coffee without sugar in it, preferably not at all, but if everyone in the office drinks the stuff, better to give in to peer pressure on the odd occasion. <br /><br />My vices tend to be a couple of glasses of wine or whiskey a week and don't ask me to give up chocolate. I've never really been into beer and I can take or leave cakes.<br /><br />I think, Speedy, the main thing for me is sleep. I would be no good as a spy because if I was deprived of quality sleep for just one night I would tell the enemy exactly what he wanted to hear. If I sleep well then I am well.<br /><br />Do you follow any particular eating plan? Does anyone for that matter? What's been your experience? Has it been of benefit to you? At your level of performance, Speedy, I would imagine you have to be very careful what, when and how much you eat. <br /><br />regs<br />Bernard Pru<br />

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » September 15th, 2005, 2:10 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Prufrock @ Sep 15 2005, 01:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br />Do you follow any particular eating plan? Does anyone for that matter? What's been your experience? Has it been of benefit to you? At your level of performance, Speedy, I would imagine you have to be very careful what, when and how much you eat. <br /><br />regs<br />Bernard Pru <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I do have a very strict eating regime when I'm in full training mode. No need to put s**t gas in the tank when you're trying to get the best gas milage.<br /><br />I do notice quite a difference too. The biggest thing is cutting out sugar. I don't do any refined sugar of any sort. That gives me a very solid baseline as to what my energy levels are. No false sugar spikes.<br /><br />If the competition is in a boat, then I try to lose as much weight at possible without cutting into my power. I did a pretty good job of that in Edmonton this past July. I got down to around 90 kg and maintained (if not improved a bit) all of my power.

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