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[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » December 6th, 2005, 7:48 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Perhaps you should tell me exactly what you mean by 80 x 250m x 250m (1:15 rest @ a paddle) @ 1:36. To me it means that each 250m interval would have a recalled average pace of 1:36, the 250m rest periods would be completed in at a 2:30 avg pace (or just make the rest intervals 1:15 on a PM2 or PM3) and there was no time away from the Erg except that which did not exceed the rest period. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Exactly. I batched them in groups of 20, though, and as I remember, I took five minutes or so between batches--to get water, to change seat pads, to restart music, etc. I did indeed program the PM2 to the rest time and (as I remember), I recorded all of the times and reported them here on the US forum, all 80 of them.<br /><br />As I remember, I recorded and reported all of the 500s, too.<br /><br />ranger

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » December 6th, 2005, 9:49 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 6 2005, 07:06 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>The best workouts don't defeat you. They make you feel good. They bring out the best in you.<br /><br />I try to do all of my workouts so that they are like this.<br /><br />They feel good. They bring out the best in me. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Rich:<br /><br />Perhaps the most valuable nugget (for me) that you've posted. <br /><br />Once I took this attitude (just recently) I couldn't wait for "tomorrow" to attack the next step (workout) in getting better. The journey becomes the satisfaction. The journey is what it's all about. And when you find people who feel likewise, and can communicate with them about this, it's a blast. It's work, but it's not "work".<br /><br />Anecdotally, Saturday, after racing a 2K (with 2K warm up and 2K cool down), I pulled a 6K PB and then could not stay off the erg and did a 30' piece at a pretty brisk pace (for me). In one day I did the kind of meters that once (just a few months ago really) were my total for the <b>week </b>... and it felt awesome.<br /><br />I can only imagine what it must be like to have done this (and much more) for years ... the level of fitness that could be achieved would be quite amazing.<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br />-- Mark<br />

[old] george nz · Post by **[old] george nz** » December 7th, 2005, 12:52 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 7 2005, 12:36 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>for people like George, who have ants in his pants (and other problems upstairs!).<br />ranger<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />John does this infer a personal attack - you said Ranger doesn't do that <br /><br />George<br />

[old] george nz · Post by **[old] george nz** » December 7th, 2005, 12:58 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 7 2005, 12:06 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>George, sounds as though you need to get your mind right!<br /><br />It sounds as though you are _consumed_ with anxiety about working hard, surviving the effort, and reaching meaningful and ambitious goals.<br /><br />Sorry about this, but the stream of messages you post here, projecting your anxieties onto others, will do little to solve your problem.<br /><br />ranger<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Tks for caring Rich, thats kinda sweet of ya, but_please_dont_worry about me I am just fine. I like posting questions for_you_here, it is fun seeing which ones you reply to and which ones you dont.<br /><br />I love it the way someone can find quote after quote of comments you have made over a year ago about what you will_do_and_how you will do it and when you will do it .... and hey guess what YOU NEVER DO.<br /><br />At least your safe from ever being sponsored by 'Nike' as you are the anti-thesis of their slogan ..... YOU NEVER DO IT <br /><br />So please dont worry about me, your just an amusement for when I get bored, please dont think I would ever take a someone like you seriously.<br /><br />yours truly George<br />

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » December 7th, 2005, 3:18 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Dec 6 2005, 08:52 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>John does this infer a personal attack - you said Ranger doesn't do that <br /><br />George[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Maybe he's learning that as part of the training program from Paul Smith... <br />

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » December 7th, 2005, 8:07 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> your just an amusement for when I get bored, please dont think I would ever take a someone like you seriously. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Happy to know you're fine, George, although I do indeed continue to worry, given your acting out at the expense of others here on the web. I am an amusing trifle for you to play with in your down time? Glad I have can be of some use!<br /><br />Hey. How is _your_ training going? Are you making progress? What are your goals and how fruitfully have you been moving toward them? At one point, you said you were interested in taking on the 50s hwt WR. Are you still working towards that?<br /><br />ranger

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » December 7th, 2005, 8:14 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>YOU NEVER DO IT </td></tr></table><br /><br />Not at all true, George. By and large, I have done everything I have said I was going to do. These things aren't on any schedules, but some of the things I have mentioned as now possible and you have been concerned with here, e.g., a low rate marathon, 1:54 @ 17 spm, 1:50 @ 20-22 spm, etc., I think, will also get done, when I get around to them. They are indeed now possible, given my improved technique.<br /><br />ranger

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » December 7th, 2005, 10:51 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Dec 6 2005, 11:18 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Dec 6 2005, 08:52 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>John does this infer a personal attack - you said Ranger doesn't do that <br /><br />George[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Maybe he's learning that as part of the training program from Paul Smith... <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />John,<br /><br />I make no personal attacks, what you are doing is called "projection". You have made personal attacks on me and I have dealt with them as needed. Well enough in fact that there is not much need to bother with you anymore, except for fun. Because it is taking less and less time, even for newbies, to recognize your credibility level. Stop being foolish.<br /><br />Please tell us more about the Slides we got for you, or arrange to pass them on to someone who will use them.

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » December 7th, 2005, 11:07 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>The journey becomes the satisfaction. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Mark--<br /><br />Yes, I agree entirely. Sounds like you are well along on the journey. Enjoy!<br /><br />ranger

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » December 7th, 2005, 12:46 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Dec 7 2005, 06:51 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>John,<br /><br />I make no personal attacks, what you are doing is called "projection". [right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />OMG you are projecting yourself onto me... <br /><br />Scary stuff..... <br />

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » December 7th, 2005, 12:47 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 7 2005, 04:14 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>some of the things I have mentioned as now possible and you have been concerned with here, e.g., a low rate marathon, 1:54 @ 17 spm, 1:50 @ 20-22 spm, etc., I think, will also get done, when I get around to them. [right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />To bad there aren't any competitions for them. <br />

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » December 7th, 2005, 12:58 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Dec 7 2005, 08:46 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Dec 7 2005, 06:51 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>John,<br /><br />I make no personal attacks, what you are doing is called "projection". [right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />OMG you are projecting yourself onto me... <br /><br />Scary stuff..... <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You're quite a piece of work. Perhaps you could bring some facts along to support your claim. <br />I'm sure it was you that created a whole thread just to question my credibility. (That seems like a Personal attack.)<br />I have never done such a thing to you, as your credibility is obvious. (Do you consider that a personal attack?)<br /><br />The only thing that has been consistent about your behavior is that it is inconsistent.<br /><br />Perhaps the lack of meat in your diet has caused some sort of physiological instability with psychological side effects, please get a check up and heed the advice of credible experts, it will help you. No need to continue to be sad and scared, just address the problem and get it resolved.

[old] george nz · Post by **[old] george nz** » December 7th, 2005, 2:22 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 8 2005, 01:14 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>YOU NEVER DO IT </td></tr></table><br /><br />Not at all true, George. By and large, I have done everything I have said I was going to do. These things aren't on any schedules, <br />ranger </td></tr></table><br /><br />Sorry Ranger my mistake, I just thought that as an English professor you would use words you actually meant ..... <br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>A marathon at 1:50 and 23 spm, I think, will come <u><b>very shortly</b>.</u>.....<br />I am <u><b>just about ready</b></u> to row at marathon at 1:50 pace......<br />For instance, I would find it pretty easy <u><b>now</b></u> to row a marathon at 16 spm and 13-15 SPI.....<br />I think I would<u> <b>now</b></u> row a marathon at about 23-24 spm and 1:50 pace....<br />a marathon at 20 spm and 1:53. I'll see if I can get one done over the <u><b>next couple of months.</b></u> </td></tr></table><br /><br />see when you use words like <b>now</b> or <b>next couple of months</b>, and on the UK forum you said <b>next couple of weeks</b>, strangely that is what people thought you meant but that was <b>OVER</b> a year ago. People read the forum and read your posts and take you at your word, the problem is just what does your word mean?<br /><br />If you say to your students that there will be an exam <b>shortly</b> or in the next <b>couple of months</b> can they expect to wait a year?<br /><br />The problem is that it is not isolated and there are probably 100's more examples of your hyperbole<br /><br />George

[old] Bayko · Post by **[old] Bayko** » December 7th, 2005, 2:53 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Dec 7 2005, 06:22 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>If you say to your students that there will be an exam <b>shortly</b> or in the next <b>couple of months</b> can they expect to wait a year?<br /><br /><br /><br />George <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Even better George would be if his students took the same approach to assignments and exams that he takes to completing the marathons he keeps saying that he's going to do and the races he says that he will compete in.<br /><br />If they show on exam day and decide that they just aren't ready, they just don't take the exam. These things can take time. How lucky for them to have a Prof. who understands these things. <br /><br />Rick

[old] ranger · Post by **[old] ranger** » December 7th, 2005, 3:00 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>what does your word mean? </td></tr></table><br /><br />When I talk about plans, possibilities, eventualities, hunches, hopes, etc.?<br /><br />Just that, a sharing of plans, possiibilities, eventualities, hunches, etc., given the arc of my training.<br /><br />These things can't be predicted exactly, and who would want to or need to, anyway. They are on no exact schedule. They aren't said lightly, though. There is indeed evidence for them. And so far, the hunches I have had in the past have indeed appeared and been done, exactly as I have thought.<br /><br />As I mentioned, I would guess that I will indeed do a low rate marathon pretty soon, and following closely on that, a pb marathon (by a considerable margin) at a somewhat higher rate. As I have been rowing lately, 1:54 @ 17 spm would be my old pb and might be a good pace and rate for an initial whack at this; 1:49-1:50 @ 21-22 spm might be a good rate and pace to try for a new pb.<br /><br />How's _your_ rowing coming along, George? Any hunches on where you're headed?<br /><br />ranger

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