Ranger - News To Shock

[[old] ChrisCC]

<!--quoteo(post=55618:date=Feb 11 2006, 05:52 PM:name=DougB)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(DougB @ Feb 11 2006, 05:52 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Rich rowed heavy weight, but probably not much over, maybe 167 or so. He said he's been concentrating on his rowing rather than on his weight, hoping to do well in Boston. I watched part of his race - he was holding 1:38 most of the way, and then a fast finish at the end to dip under 6:30. He said he was quite happy with the result, having not done any speedwork yet. We might hear from him late tonight after he gets home.<br /><br />I was hoping to match his good performance with a PB, but just didn't have the energy today. I couldn't hold 1:38 for very long, and ended up with 6:37.6, about the same as last week. Odd, because a couple days ago I rowed 750m at 1:35 pace quite comfortably. Oh well, I tried my hardest - that's all I can ask. Probably starving myself for the last day or so had something to do with it...<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />well done Rich - more to come?

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=55620:date=Feb 11 2006, 06:09 PM:name=ChrisCC)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ChrisCC @ Feb 11 2006, 06:09 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=55618:date=Feb 11 2006, 05:52 PM:name=DougB)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(DougB @ Feb 11 2006, 05:52 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Rich rowed heavy weight, but probably not much over, maybe 167 or so. He said he's been concentrating on his rowing rather than on his weight, hoping to do well in Boston. I watched part of his race - he was holding 1:38 most of the way, and then a fast finish at the end to dip under 6:30. He said he was quite happy with the result, having not done any speedwork yet. We might hear from him late tonight after he gets home.<br /><br />I was hoping to match his good performance with a PB, but just didn't have the energy today. I couldn't hold 1:38 for very long, and ended up with 6:37.6, about the same as last week. Odd, because a couple days ago I rowed 750m at 1:35 pace quite comfortably. Oh well, I tried my hardest - that's all I can ask. Probably starving myself for the last day or so had something to do with it...<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />well done Rich - more to come?<br /> </td></tr></table><br />I've got to believe that Rich can lose the 2 pounds without damaging his strength and stamina and crush the world record.

[[old] JimR]

<!--quoteo(post=55621:date=Feb 11 2006, 06:22 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 11 2006, 06:22 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=55620:date=Feb 11 2006, 06:09 PM:name=ChrisCC)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ChrisCC @ Feb 11 2006, 06:09 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=55618:date=Feb 11 2006, 05:52 PM:name=DougB)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(DougB @ Feb 11 2006, 05:52 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Rich rowed heavy weight, but probably not much over, maybe 167 or so. He said he's been concentrating on his rowing rather than on his weight, hoping to do well in Boston. I watched part of his race - he was holding 1:38 most of the way, and then a fast finish at the end to dip under 6:30. He said he was quite happy with the result, having not done any speedwork yet. We might hear from him late tonight after he gets home.<br /><br />I was hoping to match his good performance with a PB, but just didn't have the energy today. I couldn't hold 1:38 for very long, and ended up with 6:37.6, about the same as last week. Odd, because a couple days ago I rowed 750m at 1:35 pace quite comfortably. Oh well, I tried my hardest - that's all I can ask. Probably starving myself for the last day or so had something to do with it...<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />well done Rich - more to come?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I've got to believe that Rich can lose the 2 pounds without damaging his strength and stamina and crush the world record.<br /><br />Rich said he would train as a lightweight by last Christmas (as I recall) and he hasn't gotten there yet ... so getting under 165 must be more of a challenge than it appears. I can't figure how someone can eat enough to maintain a weight when exercising 4-6 hours a day!<br /><br />JimR

[[old] cbrock]

What a great time!<br /><br />I would think Rich was probably was 170+ for him to not try and race as a lightweight.<br /><br />Is this is part of Rich's plan to demolish the 55 LW World Record at Boston!<br /><br />Anybody know the most a WR has ever been broken by at a major championship in any age group (Men or Women)?<br /><br />We are looking at 10-15 seconds here with a 6.25 time.<br /><br />Amazing Stuff.<br /><br />..Chris<br /><br /><br /><br />

[[old] NavigationHazard]

On RegattaCentral, Ranger's shown as registered as a HW for Boston. Entries closed on Friday, so I don't think he could switch to LW now even if he could make weight.

[[old] NavigationHazard]

<!--quoteo(post=55650:date=Feb 12 2006, 03:42 AM:name=NavigationHazard)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NavigationHazard @ Feb 12 2006, 03:42 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>On RegattaCentral, Ranger's shown as registered as a HW for Boston. Entries closed on Friday, so I don't think he could switch to LW now even if he could make weight.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The Crash-B website is now reporting that entries are still being accepted through today, so maybe Rich could still change back to LW registration.

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--quoteo(post=55650:date=Feb 12 2006, 12:42 AM:name=NavigationHazard)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NavigationHazard @ Feb 12 2006, 12:42 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>On RegattaCentral, Ranger's shown as registered as a HW for Boston. Entries closed on Friday, so I don't think he could switch to LW now even if he could make weight.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It would be silly for him to not register as a lightweight.<br /><br />If he didn't make the weight, then he would be heavyweight anyway.<br /><br />But if he does make the weight, which is very likely he can, he would be throwing away his chances by not being registered.

[[old] John Rupp]

Rich,<br /><br />There are number of things you could do to lose weight, where you have been doing the opposite.<br /><br />1) Drink more water -- not less. Drinking more water helps you to lose weight. Depriving of water results in concentration of the fluids and substances in the body and results in weight gain. It's also a matter of doing this at the right times of the day. When I got down to 133 pounds a few years ago, I was drinking a gallon of water every day, and consider this an important part of doing so.<br /><br />2) Eat healthier foods. You have been eating a lot of foods every day that pile "on" the weight, and then trying to work them off with your warm ups. To some extent that has been futile as, whatever has been worked off, more than that amount has been eaten in undigestable food that then sits in your system. This can be remedied by eating more nutritiously.<br /><br />3) Keeping track of your weight every morning, will help to show where, what, and when your system is overfilling and clogging, and what adjustments can be made.<br /><br />I think Rich can easily lose the weight to make lightweight by Boston, with no loss of strength, and likely with gain in the stamina to maintain his pace over 2k.

[[old] rspenger]

<!--quoteo(post=55650:date=Feb 12 2006, 12:42 AM:name=NavigationHazard)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NavigationHazard @ Feb 12 2006, 12:42 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>On RegattaCentral, Ranger's shown as registered as a HW for Boston. Entries closed on Friday, so I don't think he could switch to LW now even if he could make weight.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The list availible on the RegattaCentral website does not appear to be complete. I didn't see any of the Beach Sprints' qualifiers listed.<br /><br />Bob S.<br />

[[old] NavigationHazard]

It's not complete, Bob -- it evidently shows [at least at the moment] people who have registered on line via Regatta Central. Mail entries and qualifiers don't appear to be listed [yet?].<br /><br />As for registering as a LW, if Ranger still can do so I also don't see why he doesn't.<br /><br />In my reading of the rules,<br /><br /><!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->Weigh-In for Lightweight and Coxswain Events <br />Lightweight and Coxswain Events must weigh-in on race day. Names will be checked against scheduled starting times in the weigh-in rooms. In order to compete in the lightweight category, a competitor MUST be stamped by a weigh-in official upon successfully weighing in. Any competitor missing a stamp verifying they have successfully weighed in will not be allowed to compete in that category. Any competitor who failed to weigh in will race in his/her originally seeded time slot, but the score will then count in the OPEN division of that particular event. </td></tr></table><br /><br />the only 'penalty' for not making weight is that you row with the LWs but your time is slotted into the open division results for the category. In other words, there's apparently little to lose and potentially a record to gain.<br />

[[old] ranger]

<!--quoteo(post=55679:date=Feb 12 2006, 12:16 PM:name=NavigationHazard)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NavigationHazard @ Feb 12 2006, 12:16 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>As for registering as a LW, if Ranger still can do so I also don't see why he doesn't.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I qualified as a heavyweight and will accept the plane ticket from C2 on that basis. I assume C2's intention with offering plane tickets to qualifiers is to foster interesting races by encouraging the best rowers in the various divisions to attend. <br /><br />If it turn out that I can row 6:24 and am still improving, Dennis' world record is no issue. I can break it at any time. I would be rowing 17+ seconds under that standard. BIRC next year would be soon enough. <br /><br />Then again, if Blagoev rows 6:22 as a lightweight, I will have to wait until next year to take a shot at this anyway. I don't think I am going to get all the way down to 6:22 in two weeks. I think I will row 6:24 at WIRC.<br /><br />ranger<br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--quoteo(post=55684:date=Feb 12 2006, 09:55 AM:name=ranger)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Feb 12 2006, 09:55 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I qualified as a heavyweight and will accept the plane ticket from C2 on that basis. I assume C2's intention with offering plane tickets to qualifiers is to foster interesting races by encouraging the best rowers in the various divisions to attend. </td></tr></table><br /><br />A 6:29 for lightweights would be a much higher standard than the same time in the heavys.<br /><br />You qualified.<br /><br />I would think what weight class you row in is up to you.<br /><br />If you're in doubt about that then just ask C2.<br /><br /><!--quoteo(post=55684:date=Feb 12 2006, 09:55 AM:name=ranger)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Feb 12 2006, 09:55 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Then again, if Blagoev rows 6:22 as a lightweight, I will have to wait until next year to take a shot at this anyway. I don't think I am going to get all the way down to 6:22 in two weeks. I think I will row 6:24 at WIRC.<br /><br />ranger<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It doesn't take that much to lose a few pounds.<br /><br />Maybe you just don't think you can row faster than 6:37.7 as a lightweight.<br /><br />Or that, if you did, you'd get second.<br /><br />Blagoev is doing a good job of psyching out his competition.

[[old] ranger]

I also have an interest in trying to win a hwt hammer. As I have mentioned, I am not sure that anyone has both a lightweight and a heavyweight hammer. If I won the 55-59 hwts this year, I would have both.<br /><br />ranger<br /><br />I didn't qualify as a lightweight. I only completed one row in the qualifying rounds and that was as a heavyweight. I only had to row 6:51 to qualify as a lightweight, but this year at least, I couldn't do it.<br /><br />ranger

[[old] rspenger]

<!--quoteo(post=55679:date=Feb 12 2006, 09:16 AM:name=NavigationHazard)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NavigationHazard @ Feb 12 2006, 09:16 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>In my reading of the rules, the only 'penalty' for not making weight is that you row with the LWs but your time is slotted into the open division results for the category. In other words, there's apparently little to lose and potentially a record to gain.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />This brings up a problem for me. I shouldn't have any trouble making lwt, since my daily morning weighings at home are usually under 72kg. But I don't know whether or not I should bother. I have accomplished my main goal and, at the moment, I am not strongly motivated to do more than make a respectable showing (whatever that might be) at Boston to justify the trip. Whether or not I go light or heavy would seem to be immaterial. I don't know who the competition might be at this point; there were no 80-84 M in either wt category listed when I checked earlier today. I think that Dean Smith is still listed as 79. Otherwise, he would most likely be a shoo-in for the 80-84 lwt. In that case, my best strategy would be to go hwt just to get a hammer. That would be a chickens**t way to go and I am glad that I don't have that temptation. If we are both still alive and kicking (and able to qualify) next year, I might have to make such a decision.<br /><br />regards,<br /><br />Bob

[[old] mpukita]

Ranger:<br /><br />Just came across this post whilst doing some research here on strapless rowing:<br /><br /><a href="http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?s ... st&p=55212" target="_blank">http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?s ... 212</a><br /><br />Comments?<br /><br /> <br /><br />-- Mark