C2 Chain Tool?

[[old] c2jonw]

Brad,<br />I wouldn't be too concerned about passing your Model B on to someone without the swivel. The occurence of chain breakage was very small and limited to institutional abuse situations. <br />We had a sticker on the B handle that cautioned against twisting the handle, which would often be an invitation for some knucklehead to see how far they could twist it and what the consequences might be. The result of this might often be a weakened chain that would fail when the next person got on and rowed. The B connector itself is very strong, but given the better overall performance of the swivel style connector we decided to make that standard on all replacement chains for model B. JonW

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-bgood+Nov 22 2005, 06:33 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(bgood @ Nov 22 2005, 06:33 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In the back of my mind I always worried about the chain snapping on my model B (I do take good care of it). I didn't know about the swivel connector until I received my model D. I wouldn't pass my model B on to someone else without replacing the chain with the swivel connector. C2 should of had a safety recall on the chain, or at the very least sent out a safety alert letter. Maybe they did and I missed it?<br /><br />-Brad <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />In a recent Rowing News, one of the writers abuses a Model B by using a Jeep (and long slack bit of rope) to give the handle a yank that likely exceeds any ever done (Single stroke pace reading of something like 0:55) and the Erg ended up being towed around the parking lot by a still intact chain. I've heard of them breaking, and being twisted and pulled on makes this seem quite plausible, but if there hasn't been this obvious abuse, I can't see how you could even get 180deg twist without doing it very purposefully, I can't see the chain breaking after years of proper use. I still ahve the old handles that have a warning on them about twisting, even though there was also a swivel connector that would make that virtually impossible. Apparently the "lowest common denominator" is far lower than I've ever imagined it to be.

[[old] BobD]

I do not believe that C2 should interfere with Darwinian Selection. Stupidity should always be rewarded...

[[old] bgood]

<!--QuoteBegin-c2jonw+Nov 23 2005, 10:05 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(c2jonw @ Nov 23 2005, 10:05 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Brad,<br />I wouldn't be too concerned about passing your Model B on to someone without the swivel. The occurence of chain breakage was very small and limited to institutional abuse situations. <br />We had a sticker on the B handle that cautioned against twisting the handle, which would often be an invitation for some knucklehead to see how far they could twist it and what the consequences might be. The result of this might often be a weakened chain that would fail when the next person got on and rowed. The B connector itself is very strong, but given the better overall performance of the swivel style connector we decided to make that standard on all replacement chains for model B.  JonW <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />True on the B handle sticker, but I replaced that with the new style a long time ago. This is more of a C2 "CYA" because you know there are people who are always looking for ways to nail a company. At 17 years old, my model B is still in super shape. I've never replaced the chain or bungee cord (I do have a spare, but it's about 12 years old). They still perform as well as the Model D. I'll put a new chain and maint. kit on my xmas list for peace of mind.

[[old] c2jonw]

True on the B handle sticker, but I replaced that with the new style a long time ago. This is more of a C2 "CYA" because you know there are people who are always looking for ways to nail a company. At 17 years old, my model B is still in super shape. I've never replaced the chain or bungee cord (I do have a spare, but it's about 12 years old). They still perform as well as the Model D. I'll put a new chain and maint. kit on my xmas list for peace of mind. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Brad- Just a note that you'll probably want to replace the sprockets when you replace the chain. New chain/ old sprockets or new sprocket/old chain combinations will typically result in a skipping chain......JonW<br />

[[old] bgood]

[quote=c2jonw,Nov 23 2005, 02:02 PM]<br />True on the B handle sticker, but I replaced that with the new style a long time ago. This is more of a C2 "CYA" because you know there are people who are always looking for ways to nail a company. At 17 years old, my model B is still in super shape. I've never replaced the chain or bungee cord (I do have a spare, but it's about 12 years old). They still perform as well as the Model D. I'll put a new chain and maint. kit on my xmas list for peace of mind. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Brad- Just a note that you'll probably want to replace the sprockets when you replace the chain. New chain/ old sprockets or new sprocket/old chain combinations will typically result in a skipping chain......JonW <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Thanks Jon !!