Model D Mods - Monitor And Toe Piece For Barefeet

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Oct 27 2005, 03:04 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Oct 27 2005, 03:04 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I like having the monitor in the central intermediate position, so the line of vision stays the same through the stroke. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You're describing the "eye level" position that I suggested in the first response to this post, so much for being exceptional. Unless of course, you have an excessive change in eye level throughout your stroke. Perhaps the nut is loose on the seat.

[[old] John Rupp]

I think the nut is running around loose in Washington, it must have gotten lost on my trip.

[[old] John Rupp]

The position you described is "eye level".<br /><br />That is not the same.

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Oct 27 2005, 03:45 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Oct 27 2005, 03:45 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The position you described is "eye level".<br /><br />That is not the same. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Well, you are the one saying you want the monitor to stay in the same place relative to the Fan Cage, and the only place it is going to do that is at eye level, if you keep your eyes level. ( I think I already covered that.) Yep, plenty of loose nuts here in Washington, but if you were in the neighborhood and didn't arrange to say hello, I must say I'm quite disappointed. I could have arranged an outing in a real boat for you.

[[old] John Rupp]

Paul,<br /><br />I was only in eastern Washington. It would have been nice to meet you but I wasn't in that area and also didn't have much time to stop anywhere.<br /><br />Regarding the monitor, if it is too high or low then it's visual positioning respective to the fan cage will go up and down, or down and up. It's probably too hard to explain on here but having it where it appears to keep the same relative positioning is more comfortable for me visually when I'm rowing.<br />

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Oct 27 2005, 09:26 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Oct 27 2005, 09:26 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Regarding the monitor, if it is too high or low then it's visual positioning respective to the fan cage will go up and down, or down and up.  It's probably too hard to explain on here but having it where it appears to keep the same relative positioning is more comfortable for me visually when I'm rowing. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I'm confused. Why does the monitor's position relative to the fan cage matter? If you focus on the monitor, the fan cage's position seems irrrelevant to me.

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-Porkchop+Oct 27 2005, 09:03 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Oct 27 2005, 09:03 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />I'm confused.  Why does the monitor's position relative to the fan cage matter?  If you focus on the monitor, the fan cage's position seems irrrelevant to me.[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Maybe that's why you're confused. <br />

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Oct 28 2005, 02:29 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Oct 28 2005, 02:29 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Porkchop+Oct 27 2005, 09:03 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Oct 27 2005, 09:03 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />I'm confused.  Why does the monitor's position relative to the fan cage matter?  If you focus on the monitor, the fan cage's position seems irrrelevant to me.[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Maybe that's why you're confused. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Do you plan on answering the question, John, or are you going to rely on witty misdirection to avoid giving an answer?<br /><br />Why is it important to align your eyes, the monitor, and the fan cage for the entire length of your stroke and recovery?

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-Porkchop+Oct 28 2005, 10:06 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Oct 28 2005, 10:06 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do you plan on answering the question, John, or are you going to rely on witty misdirection to avoid giving an answer?<br /><br />Why is it important to align your eyes, the monitor, and the fan cage for the entire length of your stroke and recovery? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Nothing to worry about here PC, it's not important at all, and in fact pretty much impossible to keep your eyes, PM, and fan cage in line during the stroke, unless you are so short that your eyes are level with some part of the fan cage. Then all you have to do is put the PM on that plane, i.e. "eye-level" <br /><br />In the early days of the Mod A and B, I guess we knew how to move just our eyes and not our whole head.

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Oct 27 2005, 07:26 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Oct 27 2005, 07:26 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Regarding the monitor, if it is too high or low then it's visual positioning respective to the fan cage will go up and down, or down and up.  It's probably too hard to explain on here but having it where it appears to keep the same relative positioning is more comfortable for me visually when I'm rowing.[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Already answered.

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Oct 28 2005, 02:26 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Oct 28 2005, 02:26 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Oct 27 2005, 07:26 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Oct 27 2005, 07:26 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Regarding the monitor, if it is too high or low then it's visual positioning respective to the fan cage will go up and down, or down and up.  It's probably too hard to explain on here but having it where it appears to keep the same relative positioning is more comfortable for me visually when I'm rowing.[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Already answered. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Not really, John. That is more of a refusal to answer. Inquiring minds want to know: What is visual comfort, and why does it matter? If there is a reason, then it may apply to others, not just you. S-h-a-a-a-r-e, John. Does the appearance of a bobbing monitor distract you somehow? Would I improve my <u><i><b>erging</b></i></u> if I lined up the monitor and the fan cage just right?

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-Porkchop+Oct 28 2005, 03:52 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Oct 28 2005, 03:52 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Not really, John. That is more of a refusal to answer.  </td></tr></table><br />The answer is there, three times now. Which makes it a refusal to understand on your part. <br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Inquiring minds want to know:  What is visual comfort, and why does it matter? </td></tr></table><br />It's self explanatory. "Visual" --> "comfort".<br /><br />It matters because it "is", therefore, it "does".<br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If there is a reason, then it may apply to others, not just you.  </td></tr></table><br />Precisely. <br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Does the appearance of a bobbing monitor distract you somehow?  </td></tr></table><br />No -- because mine doesn't bobble, and I'm not looking at yours. <br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Would I improve my <u><i><b>erging</b></i></u>    if I lined up the monitor and the fan cage just right? </td></tr></table><br />No, because when you are tossing an erg, the position of the monitor doesn't matter that much. <br /><br />

[[old] Byron Drachman]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Looking down at the monitor caused me to bend my neck forward, and resulted in my bending my entire back forward slightly at the catch. Looking forward (or up) helps me keep my back straight(er) at the catch. I think it has improved my form. I don't know if others may have similar results, but it has made a difference for me. </td></tr></table> <br /><br />Hi Porkchop,<br /><br />I've also noticed that "sitting tall" and keeping the head as level as possible helps me keep my back straight and supported and avoid backaches. Xeno suggests in his DVD's that you put a mirror in front of the C2 and watch your head. He says to keep it in an imaginary frame and have no motion, or as little as possible, up and down, and to keep the head straight up with no tilting. Well, those weren't exactly his words, but that was the message I think. <br /><br />Byron

[[old] John Rupp]

Looking at this stop action of Xeno, he has the monitor close to the line to the end top of the railing at the back of the fan cage, but much lower than eye level.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.invernessrowingclub.co.uk/pe ... o_erg.html' target='_blank'>http://www.invernessrowingclub.co.uk/pe ... tml</a><br /><br />Thus it is very close to the line of vision as mine is.<br />