Is A 2min/500m Row Equal To 6min/mile Run Pace?

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Post by [old] ranger » April 5th, 2005, 12:45 am

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But 1:50 would more likely be called "the beginning of faster erging". </td></tr></table><br /><br />I agree with this. Regardless of weight or age, 1:48 or so is an ambitious base pace to aspire to for distance rows. Even as a 50s lwt, this is my current goal, and I think it is not at all unreasonable. This is comparable to about 5:45 pace running on the road. <br /><br />In his 40s, and as a lwt, at the height of the racing season, Caviston likes to work up to 30K at 1:48 in his Level 3 rowing.<br /><br />Nice.<br /><br />30K at 1:48 gets up a good sweat.<br /><br /> <br /><br />ranger

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Post by [old] akit110 » April 5th, 2005, 12:56 am

Thanks for all the responses. <br /><br />My original thinking behind the question was that as a teenager growing up in Canada, one of the yearly fitness tests was a 2400m run. This used to take the faster male runners in the class around 9 minutes or around 6 minutes per a mile. Later, in crew try-outs in college among fit young men but completely untrained rowers, many people would do the 2000m test in around 8 minutes.<br /><br />Thus, based on these observations, I theorized that both paces represent what a fit, young male might achieve without a whole lot of training in either sport.<br /><br />The equivalence of the two paces in the two sports, of course, largely depends on the person and the distance as others have pointed out. Forum participants are probably going to find running 6min/pace much harder as they are more likely to be trained rowers rather than runners, and - on average - older and heavier than the young men in my original observations.<br /><br />The other genesis of my original question is that looking at the times people post with their signature on this forum and other discussion threads, it does seem that for the ranked distances sub-2:00 (often much faster, but seldom much slower) efforts predominate so I figured 2:00 might be a sort of 'beginning of faster erging' but not nearly the 'beginning of <u>competitive</u> erging' except in perhaps the oldest age categories. <br /><br />However, it seems like most questions, the answer is 'it depends'.

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Post by [old] Jillster » April 8th, 2005, 4:12 pm

Running and rowing, two of my favorite subjects. They can't be compared to each other in the way you want them to. You have to compare your best rowing times to other rowing times only, likewise for running. Also, what is "fast" in any sport depends on too many objective and subjective elements -- what distance are you going, what percentage of finishers in that distance does one consider fast, are you comparing yourself to world record holders or people who have voluntarilly signed up for a forum; etc. In my mind, what is fast is what is fast to you -- do your best to achieve your PB, then strive to break it and be proud even if compared to others your numbers suck. For example, I can do 500m in 1:50, but I couldn't run a 6:00 minute (or probably an 8 minute) mile to save my life, and I am still striving to average 10 minute miles on running marathon (or even half)distance. While a 5-hour running marathon would make a majority of runners wince with embarrassment, I am more proud of that than my 1:50 500m row, because it was harder for me than anything I've ever done on the erg or the boat. When I break 4:30 on the marathon, I'll say it was a fast time, despite knowing that the winner was back home in Kenya with a cup of tea by the time I cleared the finish line.

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Post by [old] d.guest » April 9th, 2005, 9:11 pm

No I definatly do not run as much as I row, I usually only run when the water is to rough and we want a break from rowing or when the erg is being used at the gym and i a forced to use the treadmill

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Post by [old] Atorrante » April 10th, 2005, 8:00 pm

A 7:30min/mile pace burn roughly 1070 cal/hour in a treadmill. Rowing at a 2:00 pace burns 1000 cal/hour apx. I think that running at 6min/mile should burn over 1200 cal/hour and then be tougher than rowing at a 2:00 pace.

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