Us Indoor Rowing Team Selection

[[old] John Rupp]

Hey why are you guys giving your opinions here, since you weren't a part of the selection process.

[[old] kjgress]

<!--QuoteBegin-Andreas+Nov 9 2005, 02:50 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Andreas @ Nov 9 2005, 02:50 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Can somebody please tell me how this selection was made(what was the qualifing times in the different age and weight groups)<br />Also what the results were for those who tried to make the team.<br />Thanx <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Andreas: In the "competition" area of the C2 website is a table which shows the minimum 2K times for the Dev Squad. Anyone who pulled a time for their division faster than that time and submitted it to C2 by June 1st was on the squad. <br /><br />20 minute pieces were rowed at the end of July, August and September at controlled stroke rates of 24(July), 26 (August) and 28(September). A 2K piece, witnessed and verified, was required by October 31.<br /><br />The fastest 12 people, 6 of each gender, were selected to go. (Faster meaning division relative of course). There were also time standards based on race results from prior years.<br /><br />Hope this answers any questions. KJG

[[old] Thomas]

I am just curious. There is no age-weight group identification or times posted with the names listed. Just like when they identify people who qualify for the CRASH-B at the satellite erg races. I am curious who the animals are that can row under 6:10-point-something and be 40-plus years. But, I don't hate them. Oh, no . . . there is no hating in rowing.<br /><br />

[[old] dadams]

<!--QuoteBegin-gw1+Nov 9 2005, 08:26 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(gw1 @ Nov 9 2005, 08:26 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Thomas,<br /><br />Dwayne posted this respectable time, but is not on the list!<br /><br />GW <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Gary,<br />I posted my qual time to late. I had been out of the country on business, and didn't get a chance to post by the required date. No hard feelings. Them are the rules.<br /><br />Dwayne

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-kjgress+Nov 9 2005, 09:54 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kjgress @ Nov 9 2005, 09:54 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The fastest 12 people, 6 of each gender, were selected to go.  Faster meaning division relative of course. [right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />I have seen no published announcement or chart giving such standards as compared by age, weight class and gender, and certainly not one that was published in advance for EVERY interested party to see.

[[old] kjgress]

<!--QuoteBegin-kjgress+Nov 10 2005, 12:54 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kjgress @ Nov 10 2005, 12:54 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The fastest 12 people, 6 of each gender, were selected to go.  (Faster meaning division relative of course).  There were also time standards based on race results from prior years.<br /><br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />John: You missed the second sentence in your cut and paste;<br /><br /> "There were also time standards based on race results from prior years."<br /><br />Those time standards were taken directly from medaling places per division in last years race.

[[old] Thomas]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 10 2005, 08:37 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 10 2005, 08:37 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-kjgress+Nov 9 2005, 09:54 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kjgress @ Nov 9 2005, 09:54 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The fastest 12 people, 6 of each gender, were selected to go.  Faster meaning division relative of course. [right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Based on no objective standards -- point made again! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />I would think that the 12 picked were the 12 that were not only the fastest in their age-weight group but also were able to beat their mark by the largest margin. Concept 2 probably has their favorites but those favorites are probably based on a combination of speed and a positive-uplifting personality. <br /><br /><br />I am really interested in the times for the Men's 40-49 HWT group because it is the largest and most intense race group <br /><br />

[[old] Laupi]

<b> I do not know anybody in the team - it is funny - they come out of the dark. Never realized them on e-row or rowpro. Did they enter the times as they personally liked or do they go in competition - or os a friendship deal behind?</b>

[[old] gw1]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am really interested in the times for the Men's 40-49 HWT group because it is the largest and most intense race group </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thomas,<br /><br />Dwayne posted his 6:01 a day late, therefore it didn't count. I did a time in summer under the qualifying time, but as an Aussie do not qualify for the squad. <br />I have not attempted a 2000m piece since or have i been doing anything other that on-water work and weights so i know it would be unlikely i could go under 6:10 without a few months of C2 work. <br />Are you going over to compete?<br /><br />Cheers<br />GW

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-Laupi+Nov 10 2005, 11:07 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Laupi @ Nov 10 2005, 11:07 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b> I do not know anybody in the team - it is funny - they come out of the dark. Never realized them on e-row or rowpro. Did they enter the times as they personally liked or do they go in competition - or os a friendship deal behind?</b> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Laupi,<br /><br />Have you looked on the <img src='http://degiorgi.math.hr/forum/images/smiles/kiss.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> list? You might find them there! <br />

[[old] joanvb]

<!--QuoteBegin-Laupi+Nov 10 2005, 02:07 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Laupi @ Nov 10 2005, 02:07 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b> I do not know anybody in the team - it is funny - they come out of the dark. Never realized them on e-row or rowpro. Did they enter the times as they personally liked or do they go in competition - or os a friendship deal behind?</b> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Laupi,<br /><br />I'm not sure if you are joking here and just looking for a reaction. In case you are serious....<br /><br />Perhaps many of them are not active online, but the CRASH-B results show that they are definitely a presence in their categories at the World Indoor Rowing Championships. <br /><br />You’ll find most of the names of those on the team either at the top or near the top of their category (unless they’ve just moved up to an older category) in this year’s results of the CRASH-B’s (World Championships) <br /><a href='http://www.crash-b.org/results.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.crash-b.org/results.htm</a><br /><br />You'll find a few of the names at the World Record 2000 Meters site:<br /><a href='http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... ecords.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... asp</a><br /><br />Bios of many members of the team can be found on this site listing the Development Squad: <br /><a href='http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... _squad.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... asp</a><br /><br />Additionally, you may find more information about team members in the Development Squad section of this forum.<br /> <br />Joan VB<br />

[[old] Thomas]

<!--QuoteBegin-gw1+Nov 10 2005, 12:22 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(gw1 @ Nov 10 2005, 12:22 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am really interested in the times for the Men's 40-49 HWT group because it is the largest and most intense race group </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thomas,<br /><br />Dwayne posted his 6:01 a day late, therefore it didn't count. I did a time in summer under the qualifying time, but as an Aussie do not qualify for the squad. <br />I have not attempted a 2000m piece since or have i been doing anything other that on-water work and weights so i know it would be unlikely i could go under 6:10 without a few months of C2 work. <br />Are you going over to compete?<br /><br />Cheers<br />GW <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hello,<br /><br />I am planning on racing at WIRC 2006. I had planned to race again at the BIRC and also for the first time at the EIRC, but the new house is killing me slowly . So, I would like to race at the WIRC 2006 and have decided to pass on the EIRC and the BIRC. Other concerns I had in this decision was the bird flu, violent weather, and terrorism. If something bad were to happen during the time of the WIRC, I could get back in some way to California as opposed to the other two races, which require me to fly. <br /><br />I am really glad that I raced at the BIRC last year in the Men's HWT 35-39. The BIRC is quite an awesome competitive arena. What made the trip really cool was the people I met from racing on e-row, Marilyn/Joachim whose house I stayed at in Munich, Germany and Phil Morris who gave me a ride to and from Heathrow. There was more people I met at the actual race whose names I was familiar with from e-row or from forums.<br /><br />Later,<br />Thomas

[[old] kjgress]

<!--QuoteBegin-Laupi+Nov 10 2005, 02:07 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Laupi @ Nov 10 2005, 02:07 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b> Did they enter the times as they personally liked or do they go in competition - or os a friendship deal behind?</b> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I think Joan has given all the relevant information. The only thing to add is that all times submitted had at least one witness and were verified as true by the PM3 software which gives a 16 character reference code. If you look at times for various distances and divisions and see the remark IND-V that means the row was verified with the software.<br /><br />KJG

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-kjgress+Nov 9 2005, 09:54 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kjgress @ Nov 9 2005, 09:54 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The fastest 12 people, 6 of each gender, were selected to go.  Faster meaning division relative of course.[right] </td></tr></table><br /><!--QuoteBegin-kjgress+Nov 10 2005, 08:54 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kjgress @ Nov 10 2005, 08:54 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->John:  You missed the second sentence in your cut and paste;<br /><br /> "There were also time standards based on race results from prior years."<br /><br />Those time standards were taken directly from medaling places per division in last years race.[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Which is it? <br /><br />More affirmation!! No objective standards!! Point made again!! <br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-kjgress+Nov 9 2005, 09:54 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kjgress @ Nov 9 2005, 09:54 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The fastest 12 people, 6 of each gender, were selected to go.  Faster meaning division relative of course. [right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />I have seen no published announcement or chart giving such standards as compared to the World Records for each age, weight class and gender, and certainly not any chart or annoucement that was published in advance for EVERY interested party to see.