Daughter Contracted Cellulitis: What To Expect

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Post by [old] bmoore » October 11th, 2005, 8:41 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Lol'sMom+Oct 11 2005, 06:12 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Lol'sMom @ Oct 11 2005, 06:12 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thank you all for your concern. My daughter was sent to the emergency room immediately by the college health office and was given antibiotics to start then and there. <br />However, I will persue this aggressively. Thank you again. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I can only imagine your stress over not being there. I'm happy to hear she is receiving proper treatment. My apologies for the chat room bickering over your very serious question to the community. There's no place for this, and for that we apologize.

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Post by [old] John Rupp » October 11th, 2005, 10:11 pm

Here is the protocol for cellulitis:<br /><br /><a href='http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=1840' target='_blank'>http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=1840</a>

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Post by [old] NightRower » October 12th, 2005, 12:59 am

As a medical professional and someone whose wife and dog have both had cellulitis. It is something to be treated with antibiotics. If possible a culture is the best way to treat, if there is something to culture. In some cases cellulitis is caused from a small bit, nick etc and therefore there is not a point to culture. <br /><br />I have seen the good the bad and the ugly in regards to fall out from cellulitis. A simple cellulitis, even with streaking, in a healthy young individual who gets appropriate treatment is not anything to really worry about. Do follow the advice of your practitioner though. If the suggestion is to rest the effected limb, do so. If she is in school, as you say, she should be able to write but perhaps rowing may be too much at this time. A decent and knowledgable practitioner can tell her specific answers to these questions if she asks them. She should also see a fairly rapid improvement in her symptoms with the start of medications. <br /><br />The best advice is for her to see a current practitioner (as someone else suggested) and follow up with the same person for decent follow-up care. Do not worry at this time about "losing a limb" or other graphic things. <br /><br />Cellulits can be bad, but in a normally healthy individual with an intact immune system it can be treated well and fairly quickly with antibiotics. There may be swelling (as was previously mentioned the lymphatic "streaking" or involvement mediates this) which will go away as the infection gets better. <br /><br />A good campus health office can treat this as well as an ER. Campus health should be staffed by competent and reasonable medical practitioners and are generally more affordable for the average college student. <br /><br />Her season, being as of my reading of this note it is October 11th, may be over. But her life is not! Encourage follow up and encourage the taking of <b>all</b> the medication prescribed unless directed by her MD. Stopping early because things <i>look better</i> is usually a recipe for a re-infection. <br /><br />Hope it helps. Seek medical advice from qualified and competent practitioners. Follow their guidance and use their expertise. Do not depend on any internet chat or site!<br /><br />Darren

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Post by [old] John Rupp » October 12th, 2005, 2:35 am

So you advise a healthy person with a strong immune system, to take antibiotics that run down the immune system.<br /><br />No wonder the medical profession's cure rate is so lousy, and your failures are so common.

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Post by [old] NightRower » October 12th, 2005, 5:38 am

Dearest John,<br /><br />If you would like to get personal and attack individuals you may. Having seen people die, yes I said die, from cellulitis I gave my observations. Had you read all the way through, you would see that I said that someone should seek advice of a qualified practitioner, not a chat room. You insist on being a jerk who attacks and misleads on a personal level. I do not understand you basic hatred of anyone with an opinion that differs from your own. If you would like to allow your infections to be treated in any sort of way, that is your choice, the choice that we all have. But to your blatently stupid and misleading ideas being passed off by yourself as the gospel and only way to do things is not only wrong but is a sign of a very sick mind. I would advise your Mr. Rupp, to see help. Not only are you are an angry man with issues in dire need of help, you are a stupid individual who is unable to reading and digesting opinions of others without your own personal attack. <br /><br />Yes I am attacking you because you insist on doing it to anyone who happens to post. You are the only person who insists on being a target and I can only assume that is because you are a masochist who enjoys the pain. You are also the type of person who would refuse medical care in my environment but when you were on deaths door, which will come one day to you, you will beg and plead for the help of the very people who you insult so openly today. If and when they fail you or your loved ones, which they will as you would seek too late, you will sue them. The only thing worse than the White Trash I assume you to be, is to become rich White Trash, as we know anyone can get a settlement as it is cheaper to settle than to try and get a decent outcome due to this countries incredibly stupid tort system. <br /><br />Now you may think and desire to take herbs and cow dung for your ailments, that does not mean that anyone else does. So, unless you can play well with others, I would hope that you go away like a bad dream. If I could take antibiotics to get rid of parasites or bacteria such as yourself I certainly would, even if it would lessen my own immune system. <br /><br />I adivse you to go out and learn something about the topics that which you speak of so you may not look so ignorant all the time. Being ignorant is not becoming of anyone, least of all yourself. Since I started to post and became a member of this community I have you to be anywhere from rude to downright hostile. You are the only like this and I have to ask why? Does everyone in your life hate you so much that you need to lash out like this? I can assume the answer to that is yes and that you don't have anyone left. I can see why. So please feel free to insult and make fun of whatever anyone thinks of or talks of but please keep this in mind. At least the others new the difference between cellulitis and cellulite. For you John, I will clarify it. Cellulite is the type of fat that leaves dimples, typically on rear ends and thighs (I will keep it simple for your obviously low level of basic understanding of all things medical). Cellulitis is a skin infection. Or, to be more simple even, cellulite is what you appear to have between your ears.<br /><br />I expect you will respond in kind so please feel free, but do stop trying to mislead others to your ways. More than one of you would cause me to rethink my membership here. <br /><br />I hope you enjoy the slides that others tried to buy you as a gesture of goodwill to an inflammatory attack on another member of this forum. It is apparent that you can not accept goodwill without an attack on another. Please feel free to attack me any time you want, it appears to be your way, you only way of enjoying yourself and you life. Sad really, don't you think?<br /><br />Darren

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Post by [old] rspenger » October 12th, 2005, 6:06 am

<!--QuoteBegin-NightRower+Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NightRower @ Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Dearest John,<br /><br />If you would like to get personal and attack individuals you may. Having seen people die, yes I said die, from cellulitis I gave my observations. Had you read all the way through, you would see that I said that someone should seek advice of a qualified practitioner, not a chat room. You insist on being a jerk who attacks and misleads on a personal level. I do not understand you basic hatred of anyone with an opinion that differs from your own. If you would like to allow your infections to be treated in any sort of way, that is your choice, the choice that we all have. But to your blatently stupid and misleading ideas being passed off by yourself as the gospel and only way to do things is not only wrong but is a sign of a very sick mind. I would advise your Mr. Rupp, to see help. Not only are you are an angry man with issues in dire need of help, you are a stupid individual who is unable to reading and digesting opinions of others without your own personal attack. <br /><br />Yes I am attacking you because you insist on doing it to anyone who happens to post. You are the only person who insists on being a target and I can only assume that is because you are a masochist who enjoys the pain. You are also the type of person who would refuse medical care in my environment but when you were on deaths door, which will come one day to you, you will beg and plead for the help of the very people who you insult so openly today. If and when they fail you or your loved ones, which they will as you would seek too late, you will sue them. The only thing worse than the White Trash I assume you to be, is to become rich White Trash, as we know anyone can get a settlement as it is cheaper to settle than to try and get a decent outcome due to this countries incredibly stupid tort system. <br /><br />Now you may think and desire to take herbs and cow dung for your ailments, that does not mean that anyone else does. So, unless you can play well with others, I would hope that you go away like a bad dream. If I could take antibiotics to get rid of parasites or bacteria such as yourself I certainly would, even if it would lessen my own immune system. <br /><br />I adivse you to go out and learn something about the topics that which you speak of so you may not look so ignorant all the time. Being ignorant is not becoming of anyone, least of all yourself. Since I started to post and became a member of this community I have you to be anywhere from rude to downright hostile. You are the only like this and I have to ask why? Does everyone in your life hate you so much that you need to lash out like this? I can assume the answer to that is yes and that you don't have anyone left. I can see why. So please feel free to insult and make fun of whatever anyone thinks of or talks of but please keep this in mind. At least the others new the difference between cellulitis and cellulite. For  you John, I will clarify it. Cellulite is the type of fat that leaves dimples, typically on rear ends and thighs (I will keep it simple for your obviously low level of basic understanding of all things medical). Cellulitis is a skin infection. Or, to be more simple even, cellulite is what you appear to have between your ears.<br /><br />I expect you will respond in kind so please feel free, but do stop trying to mislead others to your ways. More than one of you would cause me to rethink my membership here. <br /><br />I hope you enjoy the slides that others tried to buy you as a gesture of goodwill to an inflammatory attack on another member of this forum. It is apparent that you can not accept goodwill without an attack on another. Please feel free to attack me any time you want, it appears to be your way, you only way of enjoying yourself and you life. Sad really, don't you think?<br /><br />Darren <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I would recommend reading:<br /><br /><a href='http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm' target='_blank'>http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm</a><br /><br />regards,<br /><br />Bob S.

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Post by [old] NightRower » October 12th, 2005, 6:25 am

Thank you Bob.<br />

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Post by [old] Ray79 » October 12th, 2005, 6:58 am

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Oct 11 2005, 09:11 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Oct 11 2005, 09:11 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Here is the protocol for cellulitis:<br /><br /><a href='http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=1840' target='_blank'>http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=1840</a> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />And here is the Disclaimer provided by Curezone, just for clarity.<br /><br />"Information on CureZone is provided <b>for informational purposes only</b> and is <b>not</b> intended as a substitute for the advice provided by your physician or other healthcare professional or any information contained on or in any product label or packaging. <b>You should not use the information on CureZone for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease</b>, or prescribing any medication or other treatment. <b>You should always speak with your physician or other healthcare professional before taking any medication or nutritional, herbal or homeopathic supplement, or adopting any treatment for a health problem</b>"

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Post by [old] afolpe » October 12th, 2005, 8:35 am

Thanks for the link about trolls. It's quite a well-written piece. I think I fell into the trap of thinking that just because the troll occasionally posts a coherent idea, that he was a reasonable sort of person whose ideas it might be interesting to at least hear once. Obviously, this is incorrect. As I look at the last couple of posts that our resident troll has tried to malaciously hijack, the thing that really stands out in retrospect is how the most senior members of this board appear to have instantly recognized this behavior for what it was, and not even responded. This is exactly what the author of the troll piece recommends doing, and a piece of advice that I think we should all try hard to follow. <br /><br />Laying this out as simply as possible: <b>We should all make a concerted effort to avoid responding to anything John Rupp posts</b>. Hopefully he will get the message and go annoy another group of people.<br /><br />Andrew

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Post by [old] Mark Keating » October 12th, 2005, 9:34 am

<!--QuoteBegin-afolpe+Oct 12 2005, 07:35 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(afolpe @ Oct 12 2005, 07:35 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>We should all make a concerted effort to avoid responding to anything John Rupp posts</b>. Hopefully he will get the message and go annoy another group of people.<br /><br />Andrew <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I'll second that ... and third it, fourth it etc.<br /><br />Mark

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Post by [old] John Rupp » October 12th, 2005, 12:23 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-NightRower+Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NightRower @ Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you would like to get personal and attack individuals you may ... You insist on being a jerk who attacks and misleads on a personal level ... your blatently stupid and misleading ideas being passed off by yourself as the gospel and only way to do things is not only wrong but is a sign of a very sick mind. I would advise your Mr. Rupp, to see help. Not only are you are an angry man with issues in dire need of help, you are a stupid individual who is unable to reading and digesting opinions of others without your own personal attack. [right] </td></tr></table><br />I point out that antibiotics run down the immune system, which every one of you medical idiots already know, and then you accuse me of being personal, attacking you -- who attack everyone who thinks intelligently -- calling me a jerk because I have saved lives in similar cases that you make people sicker and kill those who trust you -- and you say I mislead people when I say the truth and you constantly lie. <br /><br />What a bunch of crass indecent hypocrites that you are, not being able to stand that even one more person is able to get healthy. No, you would rather to keep infecting and killing the masses for your own personal gains, greed and enjoyment. Oh but you call me sick for being well, and think you are well to be the sick jerks that YOU are??<br /><br />And you can't even answer my questions. Why, if your so called treatments had any merits at all, are your cures rates so non existent and your failures so rampant?<br /><br />Are you afraiddddd to answer that question... huh huh huh huhhhhh????? Apparently you are, since you need to call me names for daring to ask you what is already PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE!! Come on answer the question truthfully and without YOUR constant personal attacks, though I already know you can't dare to do that. <br /><br />By your perverse way of thinking, anyone who tells the truth must be angry and stupid, afterall if you dared to tell the truth your medical license would be stripped away from you, huh wouldn't it. Because you not only choose to not be truthful, but you are not allowed to in this country. If you did then you would no longer have the opportunity to continue your personal gains while "practicing" your mal formed kinds of treatments. <br /><br />And who would sue you for it anyway? That is more of your misleading BS. No one can sue you in this country since you've already created all the laws in your favor.

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Post by [old] John Rupp » October 12th, 2005, 12:31 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-NightRower+Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NightRower @ Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If I could take antibiotics to get rid of parasites or bacteria such as yourself I certainly would, even if it would lessen my own immune system. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Another bass-ackwards statement.<br /><br />I don't take any extremely dangerous antibiotics.<br /><br />And I would never "advise" anyone else to take them either.<br /><br />Go ahead and take them to run down your OWN immune system if that's what you really wish to do. I seriously doubt it. However, at least stop killing others for your personal greed.<br /><br />If others get healthy by taking herbs and eschewing your toxic medications, and you know this is the case, then stop trying to outlaw their remedies. And stop trying to promote yours that are harmful.<br />

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Post by [old] John Rupp » October 12th, 2005, 12:34 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-NightRower+Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NightRower @ Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I adivse you to go out and learn something about the topics that which you speak of so you may not look so ignorant all the time. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Again, you are mistaken.<br /><br />I am not a medical doctor. <br /><br />My apologies if there was anything in my posts that gave that impression.<br />

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Post by [old] Bayko » October 12th, 2005, 12:37 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-afolpe+Oct 12 2005, 12:35 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(afolpe @ Oct 12 2005, 12:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br /><br />Laying this out as simply as possible: <b>We should all make a concerted effort to avoid responding to anything John Rupp posts</b>. Hopefully he will get the message and go annoy another group of people.<br /><br />Andrew <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Amen

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Post by [old] John Rupp » October 12th, 2005, 12:42 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-NightRower+Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NightRower @ Oct 12 2005, 02:38 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->At least the others new the difference between cellulitis and cellulite. For  you John, I will clarify it. Cellulite is the type of fat that leaves dimples, typically on rear ends and thighs (I will keep it simple for your obviously low level of basic understanding of all things medical). Cellulitis is a skin infection. Or, to be more simple even, cellulite is what you appear to have between your ears. </td></tr></table><br />It is amazing to me that you can make so many mistakes in one paragraph.<br /><br />1) No one else who posted was aware of the relationship between cellulitis and cellulite except me;<br /><br />2) Knew is spelled with a "K".<br /><br />3) You act like you don't know this either then attack me for a "low level of basic understanding". Is this what you learned in medical school? Gosh, how fortunate I am, to not have your great level of ignorance!<br /><br />4) Ears are not usually on the sides of rear ends and thighs, unless perhaps you are referring to the rear ends of your cohorts.

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