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I'm just curious of any mod you may have done to the erg. I have made two. The seat received 2 perfectly round holes about 3" in diameter and 1" deep, exactly were the seat bones rest. The other mod was that the foot plate was partially covered with sandpaper liner for better grip at the drive. I'm very happy with these modifications, and recomend it for those who may have problems in any of these areas.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Atorrante+Jan 19 2006, 05:48 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Atorrante @ Jan 19 2006, 05:48 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The seat received 2 perfectly round holes about 3" in diameter and 1" deep, exactly were the seat bones rest. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hi Manuel,<br /><br />Did you drill out the regular C2 seat?<br /><br />What was it like after you drilled it out, i.e. any edges from the cover etc?<br /><br />How do you like the seat after putting the holes in it?<br /><br /><br />
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<!--QuoteBegin-Atorrante+Jan 20 2006, 01:48 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Atorrante @ Jan 20 2006, 01:48 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm just curious of any mod you may have done to the erg. I have made two. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />How about posting some photos of what you've done?
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Did you drill out the regular C2 seat?<br /><br />What was it like after you drilled it out, i.e. any edges from the cover etc?<br /><br />How do you like the seat after putting the holes in it? <br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br /><br />Yes, I finally took the decision of drilling the seat to resemble the seats I've seen in photos . I use a dremel tool, and they look fine, perfectly round with smooth edges. The seat has an outer shell that is harder than its interior, so don't have to drill more than an inch deep. I always use a stool seat cover over the seat and now barely feel the seat bones rocking over the seat. I will take some photos to post it as soon as posible.
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Manuel,<br /><br />So you could round the edges and the outer shell blends right in? Interesting. I always resisted cutting into the seat for thinking the edges would be much too rough. It is nice to see you have done this and that it is working well for you.<br /><br />Thanks. I am looking forward to seeing the photos.
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my modifications :<br />1 - I cut a piece of plexiglass for a small shelf approximately 16" x 3.25" that fits snugly over the exposed chain, resting on the diagonal post & tucking into the rear of the piece that holds the PM3. I suppose it keeps dust off the chain, but really it is to hold the log cards and a pen.<br /><br />2 - cut off the bit of plastic that prevented the piece that holds the PM3 from coming down to the height I like. On machines I used before I bought this one, the piece was blue (this "new" one's piece is black) and there was no trouble lowering it. I appreciate that the piece was made such that it could be cut off easily; but why is it there at all? I am short, 5' 7", and while I keep my head up, it was just a bit much.<br /><br />~ Sean
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3 - 1st night I had the rower here in my apartment, I was delighting in the smooth quiet swooosh and GLAD that it was almost certainly NOT going to cause trouble with NOISE (old apartment, wife sleeping . . .)<br />except when I got off the seat it would slide to the front and make a small BANG !<br />SO : I put a piece of plastic drinking straw on on the front stop with some double-sided tape & it worked perfectly. I may replace the straw with a bead of latex someday, but it has lasted 2 months and may go on forever.<br /><br />4 - this is in the wish category, as I haven't the skill to do it. I generally row focussed on technique, stroke rate, and heart rate, plus the force curve.<br /><br />Often I get sucked into going faster as the speed (time/500m) whispers to my ego. I tryed masking off the time/500m but then I can't see the interval numbers between sets. I've used watts & calories, but inevitably I still lose focus on HR and start pushing. Of course its a DISCIPLINE problem, but if I could I'd set the PM3 so that either <br />-- the time/500m would be to the left and the interval number to the right, <br />OR,<br />-- blank the read-out entirely - that is, neither speed nor watts nor calories.<br /><br />~ Sean
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<!--QuoteBegin-Sean Seamus+Jan 25 2006, 03:57 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Sean Seamus @ Jan 25 2006, 03:57 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->4 - this is in the wish category, as I haven't the skill to do it. I generally row focussed on technique, stroke rate, and heart rate, plus the force curve.<br /><br />Often I get sucked into going faster as the speed (time/500m) whispers to my ego. I tryed masking off the time/500m but then I can't see the interval numbers between sets. I've used watts & calories, but inevitably I still lose focus on HR and start pushing. Of course its a DISCIPLINE problem, but if I could I'd set the PM3 so that either <br />-- the time/500m would be to the left and the interval number to the right, <br />OR,<br />-- blank the read-out entirely - that is, neither speed nor watts nor calories.<br /><br />~ Sean <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Try covering it with a Post-It ™ note. Use "change display" at the end of the interval to see the interval count in the lower half of the display.
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Hi there Atorrante<br /><br />Have you seen this thread???<br /><br /><a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?s ... c=1614&hl=' target='_blank'>http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?s ... hl=</a><br /><br />Regards<br />Richard
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<!--QuoteBegin-R S T+Jan 25 2006, 04:52 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(R S T @ Jan 25 2006, 04:52 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi there Atorrante<br /><br />Have you seen this thread???<br /><br /><a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?s ... c=1614&hl=' target='_blank'>http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?s ... hl=</a><br /><br />Regards<br />Richard <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hi Richard:<br /><br />Yes, I've seen that thread as the seat is my primary concern in re to the erg. There are many interesting ideas insight, but I opt for my mod cause it was easier to do.<br /><br />I don't know if it's a bad position while rowing but my seat bones (specially left side) is the limiting factor in workouts over 5K. After the mod, I can go the 10K with no problems with the seat so far.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Manuel
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Hi Manuel,<br /><br />I know what you mean about those darned sitz bones. The wood and leather seat shown in that previous posting solved the problem for me. The leather stretched out under the sitz bones and I can sit on that seat for hours. It's the only seat I would consider using for a marathon. <br /><br />Apologies to people who have already seen this stuff, but in case you missed it, here is a two piece rocking seat I made and installed recently. If you remove the wooden dowel, the seat sits flat and is stable. With the wooden dowel in place as shown, the seat can rock and it is a great ab and torso workout to sit steady, at least for me. <br /><br />I didn't realize when I made this seat that there is one already available at coreperform.com. I would think that someone who wants to practice balancing and/or firm up around the middle would want such a seat. That's a Maas seat with a C2 pad trimmed to fit. It's not shown, but I use a leather cover on top. <br /><br /><a href='http://www.math.msu.edu/~drachman/row/rockin_seat7.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.math.msu.edu/~drachman/row/r ... jpg</a><br /><br />The Maas seat with the C2 pad is fairly comfortable and I can row for an hour or two with it. I would have preferred a wooden sculling seat but I had the Maas seat on hand.<br /><br />You can see from the photo that I have a homemade handle that has the hands rotated to a position that is more like a scull and feels better to me. I was not the first person to make a handle to allow different hand positions. Bert also did it. I used to get sore elbows from too much erging, and the different angle took care of that problem for me. The wood grips rotate 90 degrees so I can practice feathering on the C2. Feathering has become part of the stroke and on the water it's now automatic.<br /><br />You can't tell very well from the photo, but I added wooden supports so I can bring my feet out a little further and tilt my toes out more than the original footrests allow.<br /><br />Byron<br /><br /><br /><br />
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Added something. <img src='http://concept2.van-diepen.nl/100_1142s.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> or <a href='http://concept2.van-diepen.nl/100_1142.JPG' target='_blank'>big picture</a>.<br /><br />Transported the erg to an event, did not like the PM3 being unprotected. <br /><br />BTW : pre-production model.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Godfried+Jan 31 2006, 10:00 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Godfried @ Jan 31 2006, 10:00 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Transported the erg to an event, did not like the PM3 being unprotected. <br /><br />BTW : pre-production model. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Why bother, why not just remove the PM3 and keep it seperate from the erg.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Citroen+Jan 31 2006, 02:59 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Citroen @ Jan 31 2006, 02:59 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Godfried+Jan 31 2006, 10:00 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Godfried @ Jan 31 2006, 10:00 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Transported the erg to an event, did not like the PM3 being unprotected. <br /><br />BTW : pre-production model. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Why bother, why not just remove the PM3 and keep it seperate from the erg. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The tools to do that aren't nearly as much fun to use! <br />
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Has anyone developed a way to get feedback about footplate pressure? <br /><br />I broke an ankle about 20 years ago and constantly have to pay attention to maintaining equal leg pressure in my single. Of course, in a single the feedback is fairly clear and immediate. But, after a winter on the erg I find when I return ot the water that I have to start all over and re-learn. <br /><br />It would be great to be able to practice maintaining equal leg-pressure in the off-season. I've had some Rube Goldberg ideas running around in my head, e.g. electronic pressure sensors under my feet, but that seems to be a bit much.<br /><br />Any thoughts?<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Will<br />