Q Re: The Pete Plan And 2k Trials

[[old] soundave]

I'm in my fourth week of the Pete plan and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for how often I ought to do 2K trials, since the pace for the workouts is determined from that. <br /><br />I no longer use my original 2K time as it's already too slow a pace. I just try to do at least as well or better than I did on the same workout last time. Or, if I'm doing a piece that asks for 2K +5, I look to my pace for a 2K +15 piece and subtract 10 from that pace. Does this make sense? <br /><br />Given this kind of calculating, I'm guessing that in 3 weeks I dropped at least 24 seconds off my original 2K trial! But I haven't actually done one yet. I can't figure out where to fit it in, or if it's terribly important to do. Let's just say that my 4th set of 4x2K last week was faster than my original trial!

[[old] dougsurf]

<!--quoteo(post=57751:date=Feb 28 2006, 06:18 PM:name=soundave)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(soundave @ Feb 28 2006, 06:18 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I'm in my fourth week of the Pete plan and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for how often I ought to do 2K trials, since the pace for the workouts is determined from that. <br /><br />I no longer use my original 2K time as it's already too slow a pace. I just try to do at least as well or better than I did on the same workout last time. Or, if I'm doing a piece that asks for 2K +5, I look to my pace for a 2K +15 piece and subtract 10 from that pace. Does this make sense? <br /><br />Given this kind of calculating, I'm guessing that in 3 weeks I dropped at least 24 seconds off my original 2K trial! But I haven't actually done one yet. I can't figure out where to fit it in, or if it's terribly important to do. Let's just say that my 4th set of 4x2K last week was faster than my original trial!<br /> </td></tr></table><br />How is your 4x1k doing? Whatever you can hold for this should be close to your 2k capability. But if you don't have one decent 2k under your belt, then by all means, just do it. Then, maybe every 2 three week cycles, swap one in for that one tough day, in place of the 4x1k, 8x500, or pyramid. It's about the equivalent amount of work. Lots.

[[old] george nz]

Soundave as I understand it the PP is not based on your 2k time. Pete I think would say (and if I get it wrong I am happy to be corrected) that you may use an existing 2k time if you want as an initial guide but it is not necessary. Even the WP is based I think on using your best time from last season as an initial guide but then the 'plan' is self fulfilling in both cases.<br /><br />Once you have done an 8 x 500 or 5 x 1500 etc that is your benchmark for your next session - the average of the intervals.<br /><br />The intervals are done at even pacing throughout as you know and if you have anything left to spare then go for it on the last one (but dont kill yourself), it is all about gradual improvement gradual progression.<br /><br />eg 4 x 1000 / 5min rest<br /><br />1. 2:00.0 / 500<br />2. 1:59.5 / 500<br />3. 2:00.5 / 500<br />4. 1:58.0 / 500<br /><br />So your average pace is 1:59.5 / 500 and next time this is the pace you look to hold for the first 3 intervals and then go for it 'if you can' on the 4th.<br /><br />Now if you have no idea what your pace should be start conservatively and it may look like this:<br /><br />1. 2:05.0 / 500<br />2. 2:04.5 / 500<br />3. 2:02.0 / 500<br />4. 1:58.0 / 500<br /><br />So your average is 2:02.* and now you have a choice, you and only you know how hard that last 1000 was and how easy the others were, so you can do the next session at 2:02 and push the last one and see how it feels and how the average sorts itself out.<br /><br />By the time you have done the session about 3 times then you will have probably arrived at an average that is very testing as this session should be. You will as you work your way thru this process arrive at a good guesstimate of what the other sessions should be.<br /><br />Hope this helps, and I am know there is a lot of info on the UK forum <a href="http://www.concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5409" target="_blank">Pete Plan</a> and I know Pete is very approachable.<br /><br />regds George

[[old] soundave]

Thanks guys. I figured I was doing fine. Thanks for all the detail, George. I mean, I'm certainly improving. Now I'm just curious about what my new 2k time is and what to swap it for. I think Doug had some good ideas in that regard. <br /><br />Take care,<br /><br />Dave

[[old] jbell]

Alright, well our crew season has officially started. Since I will be cut-off between bow of JV-A and power seat of JV-B, I have decided to start erging at my house after our daily practices. Would the Pete plan be the best for me, or would the wolverine plan better suit me? At our practices, it’s still cold/windy, so we've been doing ~6-10miles at our practices, so erging at home should definitely bring my times down.