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[old] TomB722
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Post by [old] TomB722 » August 29th, 2005, 10:17 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Aug 27 2005, 07:06 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Aug 27 2005, 07:06 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TomB722+Aug 15 2005, 09:22 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TomB722 @ Aug 15 2005, 09:22 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->thats itneresting. my 6k is more like 13 or even 14 seconds past my 2k pace. sign of weakness in endurance? 5k is like 10 seconds past my 2k.[right] </td></tr></table><br />Tom,<br /><br />What is your definition of rhythm and timing? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />haha what are you talking about. what do my own particular physiological weaknesses have to do with this. i was trying to offer you advice. perhaps when you're doing steady state rows you should try to keep the rating down. 27 spm is far too high and im sure im not the only one who thinks so. There is very little rhythm and timing going on if you row that high for steady state pieces and that is probably why you find so much trouble with normal drag factor levels. If you are so hostile to people who offer advice maybe you should stop trying to offer it or ask it of us cause no one wants to hear a bunch of bs from a bitter old man who pulls a 7:30, regardless of your "PATT %" nonsense that no one here cares about. Maybe instead of spending your time finding excuses in formulas for a slow time you can get off your ass and pull harder to improve it.

[old] bmoore
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Post by [old] bmoore » August 30th, 2005, 12:04 am

<!--QuoteBegin-TomB722+Aug 29 2005, 10:17 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TomB722 @ Aug 29 2005, 10:17 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Aug 27 2005, 07:06 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Aug 27 2005, 07:06 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TomB722+Aug 15 2005, 09:22 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TomB722 @ Aug 15 2005, 09:22 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->thats itneresting. my 6k is more like 13 or even 14 seconds past my 2k pace. sign of weakness in endurance? 5k is like 10 seconds past my 2k.[right] </td></tr></table><br />Tom,<br /><br />What is your definition of rhythm and timing? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />haha what are you talking about. what do my own particular physiological weaknesses have to do with this. i was trying to offer you advice. perhaps when you're doing steady state rows you should try to keep the rating down. 27 spm is far too high and im sure im not the only one who thinks so. There is very little rhythm and timing going on if you row that high for steady state pieces and that is probably why you find so much trouble with normal drag factor levels. If you are so hostile to people who offer advice maybe you should stop trying to offer it or ask it of us cause no one wants to hear a bunch of bs from a bitter old man who pulls a 7:30, regardless of your "PATT %" nonsense that no one here cares about. Maybe instead of spending your time finding excuses in formulas for a slow time you can get off your ass and pull harder to improve it. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Woah. This seems a bit harsh for the question asked. John's experimenting and documenting his results. Anyone should know that a viewing a John Rupp posting should know what they're getting into.<br /><br />Personally, I think John's going to try to get on the next space shuttle to erg in space without any air around the fan. One good pull and you've got a world record, or a least a high percentage of the record.<br /><br />Anyway, let's stop personal attacks on the forum.

[old] GutBustin'
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Post by [old] GutBustin' » August 30th, 2005, 9:51 am

Quote from BMoore - <br /><br />Personally, I think John's going to try to get on the next space shuttle to erg in space without any air around the fan. One good pull and you've got a world record, or a least a high percentage of the record.<br /> <br />[/quote]<br /><br />LOL ( I screwed up the way this does quotes, sigh)

[old] DavidW
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Post by [old] DavidW » August 30th, 2005, 5:55 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-bmoore+Aug 30 2005, 04:04 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(bmoore @ Aug 30 2005, 04:04 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Personally, I think John's going to try to get on the next space shuttle to erg in space without any air around the fan.  One good pull and you've got a world record, or a least a high percentage of the record.<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />By the way I don't think that would work. Too little resistance means that the fan will be spinning way too fast for you to be able to keep up with it, so you would not be able to apply further acceleration to the fan. It's not about the absolute velocity of the flywheel it's more about the force (i.e. acceleration) that you can give the flywheel.

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