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[[old] Bore Da!]

<!--quoteo(post=55866:date=Feb 14 2006, 06:52 PM:name=philt)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Feb 14 2006, 06:52 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>With some luck we may see her enter a couple of races at the end of the year but before she does this she will need to feel confident of a good result and it won't happen if I push too hard.<br /><br />I think it is important to realise that these competitions and involvement in the forums isn't for everyone however I know it is a great motivator for many.<br /><br />Can she just do 300Metres to help complete another ship, the time is irrelevant Taff Attacks need to be first with 5 complete boats.<br /><br />Phil<br /> </td></tr></table><br />I'm cool with Mrs T because she's always been about in TAII the same as me. There's extra competition now that Krysta chasing, but thats part of it. I'm probably talking b*ll***s, but I have to ask - Is it harder for women to enter the pain zone - men seem to go there because we think it's funny, and laugh about it - how do the girls feel about lungs feeling like they wanna burst, and calves and quads on fire.<br /><br />As far as I'm concerned you do what you can, if Carla had decided to do a 1:30 this month, (yeah, like it would have happened), I would have been fine with that - no worries.<br /><br />There's 5 active women in this team, TA would not be what it is without them, and in the CTC we simply wouldn't exist.<br /><br />Sorry Guys but its valentines day and I been watching soppy films all night - C'mon we LOVE our TA women - say it loud and say it proud.<br /><br /><!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->GAME ON!!!<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><br /><br /><br />

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=55866:date=Feb 14 2006, 06:52 PM:name=philt)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Feb 14 2006, 06:52 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>quote name='mpukita' date='Feb 13 2006, 11:25 PM' post='55789']<br /><!--quoteo(post=55787:date=Feb 13 2006, 05:19 PM:name=philt)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Feb 13 2006, 05:19 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br /><!--quoteo(post=55789:date=Feb 13 2006, 11:25 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 13 2006, 11:25 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br /> </td></tr></table><br />Phil:<br /><br />I would love to get my wife erging (and rowing). Was your wife a rower prior to erging? Just wondering what caused her to start to pull. My wife's tried it several times, was up to doing 2Ks at a reasonable clip (9:00 or so) clandestinely (thank you C2 for the memory in the PM3 when the log card's removed!), and then bagged it for long walks again. She was a sprinter in high school, so I believe she'd have good power. She's also just a bit shorter than me, about 5'6". I refuse to try to push her into something she does not want to do, but maybe a few "success" stories would help push her over the edge.<br /><br /> <br /><br />Regards -- Mark<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Neither Mrs T nor I have ever rowed and only got into it through training in the gym. Her times have always been quite reasonable but she will only enter something if she thinks she can win. Her partcipation has only come through gentle coaxing, slowly she is putting more and more time in on the erg.<br />During the summer the kids sail in their national championships and during the past two years to encourage the kids to do get a little fitter there has been a side competiton of a one minute sprint on the C2. In 2004 she went up against a college rivel who always used to beat her sailing however on the erg nearly 20 years later the tables were turned and my wife beat her. That was certainly the encouragment required to push harder knowing this rival would be back for more in 2005. The Tilley family cleaned up all prizes and are now all keen on doing more but on a fairly low key.<br /><br />With some luck we may see her enter a couple of races at the end of the year but before she does this she will need to feel confident of a good result and it won't happen if I push too hard.<br /><br />I think it is important to realise that these competitions and involvement in the forums isn't for everyone however I know it is a great motivator for many.<br /><br />Can she just do 300Metres to help complete another ship, the time is irrelevant Taff Attacks need to be first with 5 complete boats.<br /><br />Phil<br /> </td></tr></table><br />All of the planets were in the proper alignment in Dublin this evening ...<br /><br />Valentines Day, a glass of wine, some home made pizza (hand made dough and all mates!), watching figure skating and curling at the Olympics (I endure for the cause), a bit of chat about the CTC and the competition ... BINGO, she's hooked! Wants to know what rate, "I can do 30 strokes per you know!". When to do it? Should she train in advance? This might just do the trick!<br /><br />I saved the big gun for last, but never had to shoot it. If I got in a jam, I was going to show her Krysta's picture in the AIO and tell her, "That's what rowing does for a gal." She would have broken a leg getting down the stairs to get on the erg!<br /><br /> <br /><br />Expect to see a listing for "Mrs. P." as soon as she's comfortable. It won't be very fast, but it won't be very stylish either.<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />-- Mark

[[old] seat5]

Sorry, guys, I tried the 300 again and was slower by .3--56.5. I am beginning to wonder if maybe the first time the flywheel wasn't at a total dead stop. I had been rowing--not fast--and had stopped for 2 minutes, but maybe it was still slightly moving. This time it was absolutely stopped because I took a bathroom break between rowing and doing the 300m. I saw lots of 1:33s but nothing lower and highest spm was actually 55, which was faster than last time. I don't know if I'll manage to improve on this horrid event or not but I will make several more attempts.<br /><br />Re: women vs. men and "the pain zone": I think it might be harder for us to intentionally enter it, but I think we are good at standing it when we're there--child birth comes to mind....<br /><br />Today was my first row after the coaching session Saturday. It feels very different to row this way. He has me pulling the handle in much higher than I was and keeping the arms really level, then letting the knees relax a tad as the arms move forward, knees actually to bend when the hands are over the knees; at this point the body angle is supposed to be set. Then I'm to concentrate on loading the weight evenly on each foot as I go up the slide. This is making it much more possible to get even effort out of both legs; it seems easier to correct this problem by making the pressure on each foot the same as I go up the slide than it is to do it by trying to push off evenly at the catch if I'm not evenly balanced to start with. A revelation of sorts. On the drive I have to concentrate on not slamming my legs down so that the knees are too straight but doing more of a squeeze. <br /><br />All in all it feels more powerful and I can pull lower splits with less effort, but it is tiring in new places, mainly upper back.<br /><br />Sorry this was so long!

[[old] mumbles]

<!--quoteo(post=55879:date=Feb 14 2006, 08:21 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 14 2006, 08:21 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=55866:date=Feb 14 2006, 06:52 PM:name=philt)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Feb 14 2006, 06:52 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>quote name='mpukita' date='Feb 13 2006, 11:25 PM' post='55789']<br /><!--quoteo(post=55787:date=Feb 13 2006, 05:19 PM:name=philt)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Feb 13 2006, 05:19 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br /><!--quoteo(post=55789:date=Feb 13 2006, 11:25 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 13 2006, 11:25 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br /> </td></tr></table><br />Phil:<br /><br />I would love to get my wife erging (and rowing). Was your wife a rower prior to erging? Just wondering what caused her to start to pull. My wife's tried it several times, was up to doing 2Ks at a reasonable clip (9:00 or so) clandestinely (thank you C2 for the memory in the PM3 when the log card's removed!), and then bagged it for long walks again. She was a sprinter in high school, so I believe she'd have good power. She's also just a bit shorter than me, about 5'6". I refuse to try to push her into something she does not want to do, but maybe a few "success" stories would help push her over the edge.<br /><br /> <br /><br />Regards -- Mark<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Neither Mrs T nor I have ever rowed and only got into it through training in the gym. Her times have always been quite reasonable but she will only enter something if she thinks she can win. Her partcipation has only come through gentle coaxing, slowly she is putting more and more time in on the erg.<br />During the summer the kids sail in their national championships and during the past two years to encourage the kids to do get a little fitter there has been a side competiton of a one minute sprint on the C2. In 2004 she went up against a college rivel who always used to beat her sailing however on the erg nearly 20 years later the tables were turned and my wife beat her. That was certainly the encouragment required to push harder knowing this rival would be back for more in 2005. The Tilley family cleaned up all prizes and are now all keen on doing more but on a fairly low key.<br /><br />With some luck we may see her enter a couple of races at the end of the year but before she does this she will need to feel confident of a good result and it won't happen if I push too hard.<br /><br />I think it is important to realise that these competitions and involvement in the forums isn't for everyone however I know it is a great motivator for many.<br /><br />Can she just do 300Metres to help complete another ship, the time is irrelevant Taff Attacks need to be first with 5 complete boats.<br /><br />Phil<br /> </td></tr></table><br />All of the planets were in the proper alignment in Dublin this evening ...<br /><br />Valentines Day, a glass of wine, some home made pizza (hand made dough and all mates!), watching figure skating and curling at the Olympics (I endure for the cause), a bit of chat about the CTC and the competition ... BINGO, she's hooked! Wants to know what rate, "I can do 30 strokes per you know!". When to do it? Should she train in advance? This might just do the trick!<br /><br />I saved the big gun for last, but never had to shoot it. If I got in a jam, I was going to show her Krysta's picture in the AIO and tell her, "That's what rowing does for a gal." She would have broken a leg getting down the stairs to get on the erg!<br /><br /> <br /><br />Expect to see a listing for "Mrs. P." as soon as she's comfortable. It won't be very fast, but it won't be very stylish either.<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />-- Mark<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Very smooth Mark, very smooth!!!!

[[old] Tulky]

I don't think you should beat yourself up about it Carla. <br /><br />There are lots of reasons why you can't quite find the energy you had the first time, but I reckon the fly wheel moving very slightly wouldnot make that much difference.<br /><br />Also the 300m seems to me to be a bit of a thrash with such a reduced stroke length for it to be more about power than technique.<br /><br />Did you try to pace yourself? I found that on my attempt, I started at 1:28 and finished at 1:33. Next time I'm going to start at 1:30 and see if I can squeeze a bit more out at the end.<br /><br />Also, I found that for me it was less a case of pain at the end but simply not having any energy left in my muscles - so plenty of fluids and a banana 30 mins beforehand.<br /><br />Paul<br />

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=55910:date=Feb 15 2006, 03:21 AM:name=mumbles)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mumbles @ Feb 15 2006, 03:21 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Very smooth Mark, very smooth!!!! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I take little credit Owen ... the crisp, flinty Australian Sauvignon Blanc was what did the trick!

[[old] mumbles]

<!--quoteo(post=55924:date=Feb 15 2006, 07:55 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 15 2006, 07:55 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=55910:date=Feb 15 2006, 03:21 AM:name=mumbles)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mumbles @ Feb 15 2006, 03:21 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Very smooth Mark, very smooth!!!! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I take little credit Owen ... the crisp, flinty Australian Sauvignon Blanc was what did the trick!<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Being a 17 year old, i wouldn know! 8)

[[old] mimitap]

I have been reading the Join Taff Attack forum for some time now and have seen the recent discussion about the CTC and your need for more women to fill the boats. Phil's comment "no matter what the time" caught my attention, so I PM'd Chris last night.<br /><br />He approved my application for membership despite the following information:<br /><br />1. A great grandfather of mine might possibly have come from Wales<br />2. I can't read the Taff forum without laughing<br />3. I wouldn't be caught dead or alive in a Taff AIO<br />4. My mileage for this season is 754,840<br />5. I tried the 300m for the first time tonight - 1:12.3. Nothing tremendous but it would put me in a boat. <br /><br />So now in addition to my goal to hit 2MM before the end of this season, I will work on getting my 300m time down. I don't think Krysta has to worry about me though.<br /><br />So we now have 4 full boats!<br /><br />Marie Armstrong (in Ontario)<br />

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=55925:date=Feb 15 2006, 08:00 AM:name=mumbles)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mumbles @ Feb 15 2006, 08:00 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Being a 17 year old, i wouldn know! 8)<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Proper answer.<br /><br /> <br />

[[old] Krysta Coleman]

Welcome, Marie! I'm glad to see another Canadian Taffette in the ranks. I am in Alberta, but one of my sisters and her family are living in your province right now.<br /><br />Thanks for all the nice comments about the AIO, everyone. I shall wear the team colours with pride! <br /><br /><!--quoteo(post=55870:date=Feb 14 2006, 05:44 PM:name=Bore Da!)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Bore Da! @ Feb 14 2006, 05:44 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->Is it harder for women to enter the pain zone - men seem to go there because we think it's funny, and laugh about it - how do the girls feel about lungs feeling like they wanna burst, and calves and quads on fire.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Well, I can only speak for myself but I personally find the pain of the shorter distances, 2k and less, a little hard to stomach. The long drug-out slightly less intense agony of a 5k or longer row seems a lot more manageable. I have tried the CTC 300m four times so far, and my chest and throat hurt for a quite a while after each go. I know I am not doing it right, though. I haven't done a proper warm-up for any of the attempts and I have just been pulling regular full strokes (albeit, rather ugly ones). I just got some good advice from PaulS on doing a 300m, so next time I am feeling masochistic I will try again.<br /><br />For non-erging pain... Well Carla's comment on child-birth comes to mind. Also, many summers of beekeeping had to have done something for my pain-tolerance threshold!

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=55933:date=Feb 15 2006, 09:22 AM:name=Krysta Coleman)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Krysta Coleman @ Feb 15 2006, 09:22 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Welcome, Marie! I'm glad to see another Canadian Taffette in the ranks. I am in Alberta, but one of my sisters and her family are living in your province right now.<br /><br />Thanks for all the nice comments about the AIO, everyone. I shall wear the team colours with pride! <br /><br /><!--quoteo(post=55870:date=Feb 14 2006, 05:44 PM:name=Bore Da!)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Bore Da! @ Feb 14 2006, 05:44 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->Is it harder for women to enter the pain zone - men seem to go there because we think it's funny, and laugh about it - how do the girls feel about lungs feeling like they wanna burst, and calves and quads on fire.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Well, I can only speak for myself but I personally find the pain of the shorter distances, 2k and less, a little hard to stomach. The long drug-out slightly less intense agony of a 5k or longer row seems a lot more manageable. I have tried the CTC 300m four times so far, and my chest and throat hurt for a quite a while after each go. I know I am not doing it right, though. I haven't done a proper warm-up for any of the attempts and I have just been pulling regular full strokes (albeit, rather ugly ones). I just got some good advice from PaulS on doing a 300m, so next time I am feeling masochistic I will try again.<br /><br />For non-erging pain... Well Carla's comment on child-birth comes to mind. Also, many summers of beekeeping had to have done something for my pain-tolerance threshold!<br /> </td></tr></table><br />On top of that, she lives in Kitchner, where they make the most marvelous bratwurst and other sausages of German ancestry and throw an amazing bunch of parties (with a beer or two) for Octoberfest! That alone should qualify her!<br /><br />Welcome Marie!

[[old] Godfried]

<!--quoteo(post=55927:date=Feb 15 2006, 02:22 PM:name=mimitap)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mimitap @ Feb 15 2006, 02:22 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->So we now have 4 full boats! </td></tr></table><br />And only two vacancies in boat V.

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=55947:date=Feb 15 2006, 12:16 PM:name=Godfried)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Godfried @ Feb 15 2006, 12:16 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=55927:date=Feb 15 2006, 02:22 PM:name=mimitap)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mimitap @ Feb 15 2006, 02:22 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->So we now have 4 full boats! </td></tr></table><br />And only two vacancies in boat V. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />What we lack in speed, we make up for in participation levels ... and fun. Cool!<br /><br />And, we have a bunch of folks that have potential to get better and better over time. Very cool!

[[old] mimitap]

<!--quoteo(post=55949:date=Feb 15 2006, 12:25 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 15 2006, 12:25 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>What we lack in speed, we make up for in participation levels ... and fun. Cool!<br /><br />And, we have a bunch of folks that have potential to get better and better over time. Very cool!<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Mark,<br /><br />Is that a veiled way of suggesting that some of our (my) times stink?! <br /><br />Marie

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=55953:date=Feb 15 2006, 12:55 PM:name=mimitap)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mimitap @ Feb 15 2006, 12:55 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=55949:date=Feb 15 2006, 12:25 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 15 2006, 12:25 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>What we lack in speed, we make up for in participation levels ... and fun. Cool!<br /><br />And, we have a bunch of folks that have potential to get better and better over time. Very cool!<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Mark,<br /><br />Is that a veiled way of suggesting that some of our (my) times stink?! <br /><br />Marie<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />No, mine ... take a look at where I rank ...<br /><br />