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[old] Spectre · Post by **[old] Spectre** » January 5th, 2006, 12:48 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(seat5 @ Jan 4 2006, 10:51 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Jan 5 2006, 02:01 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>9025m tonight for the CTC. Still keeps us in 3rd though. Need some serious meters out of TA 1. Not sure how many more I can crank out at this rate.<br /><br />Speedy <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You BRUTE! <br /><br />Last year you did 9207.... I'll bet you can do 182 more...that's <i>only</i> 1/3 of a meter more per stroke.. . I'm <i>sure</i> you can do that. <br /><br />You gonna try, Captain Sir?<br /><br />I am away until Sunday and then I will have another go. I expect to be able to do 7500 before the month is out. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Awsome result Speedy! clearly you go fast even when you are going slow! I am going to take anouther crack at it on friday. I think I can pull out something in the 8200 range if I put my mind to it. <br />

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » January 5th, 2006, 1:58 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Jan 4 2006, 09:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>9025m tonight for the CTC. Still keeps us in 3rd though. Need some serious meters out of TA 1. Not sure how many more I can crank out at this rate.<br /><br />Speedy <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Just goes to prove yet again, the guy's a machine when it comes to erging! AWESOME STUFF!!<br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Jan 4 2006, 09:08 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> if Taff can use my first 30'@19SPM (yes, I missed 20) of 6,897 to fill the slow boat, go right ahead. If you can, let me know what's required to get access to the site to update it myself. I have an ID on the C2 UK site, but not sure if that matters. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The more the merrier Mike! I've added your score to the CTC site (click on the link in my sig for details). I'll PM your password so you can go in and update it when you get round to doing a full r20 session rather than the trial one you've just done at r19 <br />

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » January 5th, 2006, 9:33 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Niall @ Jan 5 2006, 01:58 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Jan 4 2006, 09:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>9025m tonight for the CTC. Still keeps us in 3rd though. Need some serious meters out of TA 1. Not sure how many more I can crank out at this rate.<br /><br />Speedy <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Just goes to prove yet again, the guy's a machine when it comes to erging! AWESOME STUFF!!<br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Jan 4 2006, 09:08 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> if Taff can use my first 30'@19SPM (yes, I missed 20) of 6,897 to fill the slow boat, go right ahead. If you can, let me know what's required to get access to the site to update it myself. I have an ID on the C2 UK site, but not sure if that matters. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The more the merrier Mike! I've added your score to the CTC site (click on the link in my sig for details). I'll PM your password so you can go in and update it when you get round to doing a full r20 session rather than the trial one you've just done at r19 <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Thanks Niall ...

[old] philt · Post by **[old] philt** » January 5th, 2006, 1:41 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Jan 5 2006, 03:01 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>9025m tonight for the CTC. Still keeps us in 3rd though. Need some serious meters out of TA 1. Not sure how many more I can crank out at this rate.<br /><br />Speedy <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />As always a great effort Speedy.<br /><br />I am afraid I have blown my chances of supporting Taff Attack for the next few challenges. <br />Whilst Skiing last Monday i ruptured my Medial and Cruciate ligaments. <br /> OW..A lot of pain..<br /><br /> I have just returned early and left the family out there. Event more painful. I see a specialist on Monday but I think it will be many weeks before I back to waht I was doing before.<br /><br />For the record if allowed I did 8133Metres just before Christmas. <br /><br />Not much sympathy from the family Tilley because they think I was crazy on skis anyway.<br /><br /><br /> Phil<br />

[old] Paul B · Post by **[old] Paul B** » January 5th, 2006, 1:56 pm

Really sorry to hear your news Phil <br /><br />Good look with your recovery..be patient.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Paul

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » January 5th, 2006, 2:19 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Jan 5 2006, 01:41 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Jan 5 2006, 03:01 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>9025m tonight for the CTC. Still keeps us in 3rd though. Need some serious meters out of TA 1. Not sure how many more I can crank out at this rate.<br /><br />Speedy <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />As always a great effort Speedy.<br /><br />I am afraid I have blown my chances of supporting Taff Attack for the next few challenges. <br />Whilst Skiing last Monday i ruptured my Medial and Cruciate ligaments. <br /> OW..A lot of pain..<br /><br /> I have just returned early and left the family out there. Event more painful. I see a specialist on Monday but I think it will be many weeks before I back to waht I was doing before.<br /><br />For the record if allowed I did 8133Metres just before Christmas. <br /><br />Not much sympathy from the family Tilley because they think I was crazy on skis anyway.<br /><br /><br /> Phil <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Phil:<br /><br />As a fellow skier, I feel for you. Ouch!<br /><br />Here's to a good prognosis and a solid recovery!<br /><br />Regards -- Mark<br /><br />PS/NB - I have to ask this ... how did it happen? Please tell me it was a spectacular high speed crash (with video to follow), with only you involved.

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » January 5th, 2006, 2:22 pm

Phil,<br />That totally sucks!!! Been there...done that (broke my leg years ago skiing).<br /><br />Ok Taffs...who's going to step up?? We need a power house performance to make up for Phil being out.

[old] Spectre · Post by **[old] Spectre** » January 5th, 2006, 2:34 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Jan 5 2006, 01:22 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Phil,<br />That totally sucks!!! Been there...done that (broke my leg years ago skiing).<br /><br />Ok Taffs...who's going to step up?? We need a power house performance to make up for Phil being out. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Poor Phil! I wish you a speedy recovery! OK I am set to take a stab again in the 8200+ range on friday hopefully this helps. it should push us into 2nd.

[old] Bore Da! · Post by **[old] Bore Da!** » January 5th, 2006, 2:58 pm

Poor Phil, Poor Taff Attack - Big loss for us to take. Speedy recovery My Ole Mate.<br />I will do my best, but I reckon I'm only good for 7700 ish, which ain't going to be enough with Paul B's love of pain, and Spec's new found low pull form.<br /><br />Martin will probably chase you all the way for it though! Yeah, look out, he'll be up for it!<br /><br />Should be interesting

[old] wilko51 · Post by **[old] wilko51** » January 5th, 2006, 3:13 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Jan 5 2006, 06:41 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Jan 5 2006, 03:01 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>9025m tonight for the CTC. Still keeps us in 3rd though. Need some serious meters out of TA 1. Not sure how many more I can crank out at this rate.<br /><br />Speedy <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />As always a great effort Speedy.<br /><br />I am afraid I have blown my chances of supporting Taff Attack for the next few challenges. <br />Whilst Skiing last Monday i ruptured my Medial and Cruciate ligaments. <br /> OW..A lot of pain..<br /><br /> I have just returned early and left the family out there. Event more painful. I see a specialist on Monday but I think it will be many weeks before I back to waht I was doing before.<br /><br />For the record if allowed I did 8133Metres just before Christmas. <br /><br />Not much sympathy from the family Tilley because they think I was crazy on skis anyway.<br /><br /><br /> Phil <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Phil,<br /><br />Sorry hear the news mate. I'll give you a call regarding a sports injury clinic I used when I did my patella a few years back. They cannot do the op (if you need one) but they are excellent on the physio recovery side of things (much better than any hospital). Might also be worth seeing them before you see a surgeon as it always worth a second opinion before going under the knife. <br /><br />Mike

[old] wilko51 · Post by **[old] wilko51** » January 5th, 2006, 3:17 pm

Daren<br /><br />awesome meters this week! I just cannot catch you ....seems like you have found the stuff that Speedy must be drinking <br /><br />Mike

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » January 5th, 2006, 4:31 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(wilko51 @ Jan 5 2006, 07:17 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Daren<br /><br />awesome meters this week! I just cannot catch you ....seems like you have found the stuff that Speedy must be drinking <br /><br />Mike <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Heheh, Mike. I only resolved to average 15km per day, but when I have a target, I like to make sure I have it well covered. One the new season starts in May, I aim to be on the first page of the "Honor Board" from the outset, and to stay there.

[old] philt · Post by **[old] philt** » January 6th, 2006, 5:20 am

Thanks to everyone for the supporting comments. <br />If we make the Taff Attack Challenege Arms Only then I will be back in with a chance <br /><br />I have an appointment with a knee specialist on Monday and so hopefully after that I will get an idea of exactly what is ruptured and how long it may take to mend. I believe an operation is inevitable but from what I have heard it is best to get it operated on sooner rather than believing that it will mend by physio alone.<br /><br /><br /><br />So how did it happen?<br />I have always been known as an aggresive, fast skier with limited technique, I have never had a ski lesson in my life but have relied on leg strength and competitve spirit to always get me to the bottom of a ski run before anyone else. I have been skiing for 15 years and so plenty of experience. <br />My wife and eldest daughter believe that this year I started out faster than ever, I think my increased fitness this year allowed my to put more effort in without realising the additional speed I was doing.<br /><br />The accident happened on day two, it had been snowing for a couple of days and so there was a lot of fresh powder about, however it was not on a very deep base due to early in the season. We had done a couple of off piste bits in the morning nothing radical just down through a few trees. I found I was struggling with my ski bindings and if i dropped over a small ledge then my bindings came undone at the bottom. This generated a couple of falls which shouldn't have happened and I was really cursing the bindings for being too loose.<br /><br /><br />I was on a blue run down to pick up my youngest two daughters from Ski School. It was a simple blue run wide and open and so decided to go into the powder at the edge, I had done a couple of turns and then was going straight to get back onto the piste, Whilst going straight and not at great speed I suddenly dropped down a dip, the left foot came straight out of the binding, whilst I believe I was still in control, having lost a ski and slightly off balance all weight went onto my right ski which must have dug deeper into the snow and hit a rock or something, it stopped very abruptly and I just kept flying stright forward. All my 95Kg weight flying straight over the top of my right knee. Of course my foot came straight out of the bidings but the damage was already done.<br /><br />After a few moments I managed to pick myself up flex the knee a little and thought I could work off the soreness, so put the skis back on and carried down to the bottom of the run. I think I did most of the rest of the run on one ski because everytime I used my right leg there was pain. I tried the ice pack treratment over lunch but since this didn't provide much relief I had to succumb to take myself to the local medical centre, where as you can imagine this sort of injury is well known. <br /><br />It was slightly concerning though that the local doctor ( who apparently sees upto 170 ski injuries per day) was worried about the speed it had taken to swell up, he took a couple of additional x-rays and was adamant that I should get back the UK as soon as possible to get it seen to by a professional. <br /><br />Meanwhile the rest of the family are continuing to ski and showing the correct amout of symapthy.<br /><br />I am still elft with the question if the bindings were too loose or too tight. If they were tighter I don't think I would have stumbled, if they were tighter what would have been the additional damage? <br /><br />Apologies for those non skiers but Mike did ask what happened and since I have plenty of spare time which I would have spent on the Concept 2. <br /><br /><br /><br />I will keep you all informed as to how the rehabilitation is going, my target is to still achieve a million metres logged this year. <br /><br />Thanks<br />Phil<br />

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » January 6th, 2006, 5:50 am

Ouch, Phil! That serves as a great reminder to me as to why I've never gone skiing. Well, that and I reckon I'd dislocate my loose knee for a 3rd time.

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » January 6th, 2006, 8:52 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Daren C @ Jan 6 2006, 05:50 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Ouch, Phil! That serves as a great reminder to me as to why I've never gone skiing. Well, that and I reckon I'd dislocate my loose knee for a 3rd time. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><b>Gosh, sounds like a righteous injury Phil ... let's hope the damage is not as bad as it might look/feel.</b><br /><br />Seriously, this also serves as a reminder that if one is skiing, one should have their equipment checked (with a binding release check done at one's current weight and ability level) at least annually ... preferably before the season starts.<br /><br />I'm an ex-lower-level ski instructor. Poor equipment adjustments have the worst impact on faster, more advanced skiers. For beginners, it's not as important because they typically are afraid of speed until they can achieve a reasonable level of control. They feel they're going faster than they would like. The more accomplished you become and the faster you feel comfortable skiing, the more important it is that the technology built into the equipment be adjusted to your ability level. And the technology in today's equipment is awesome.<br /><br />Regards -- Mark

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