Dwyane Adams - Fake Or Real?

[[old] slo_boat]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 04:56 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 04:56 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />. . . but NotsoFast has a bad attitude it would seem. I am not saying he was not there to see the 5.47.1, but if he put himself over on the forum in a bit more of a professional manor and created a much better first impression then maybe things would be a different.<br /><br />I can’t take the word of someone who comes on and within 5 minutes starts calling me a twit. Other people who require proof of the row may now think different though.<br /><br />He has done his cause no favors <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Does any one else see the irony in this post?

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Jan 18 2006, 01:56 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 18 2006, 01:56 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 18 2006, 01:48 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 18 2006, 01:48 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->now it seems we have an eye witness,  do you believe the 5:47.1 at this point?  I do. </td></tr></table><br />Posted on the UK forum Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:44 am:<br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin-"PaulS"+--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE("PaulS")</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm not sure that GB and I are in the same age class, (I'm 43, same age as the WR holder in that class, I think the longest standing WR at this time. It would be a sad day for me if that record falls, but I'll deal with it if it happens.) </td></tr></table><br />Here you are saying that Pertti Karppinen still holds the record and that Dwayne did not better it.<br /><br />How can you believe Dwayne's record and not believe it all at the same time???? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />That's easy, WR's have to meet particular requirements to be officially documented as such. Dwayne was not at a C2 sanctioned competition or a National Rowing Team Trial at the time of his performance.<br /><br />Anything more difficult you would like to ask?

[[old] Andreas]

GEE WISS.the speed at what this thread is moving must be a Forum "World Record"and maybe that is the only recent WR.(15 pages in 2 days- who would have believe that is posible)<br /><br />Chad I wasnt going to start this issue again since I went trough this twice before.<br />Thank you for taking it of my hands for the time beeing. The first thing you need to know is that people like to have hero's. Some of us(like me) have real hero's like Pavel,Jammie,Graham,James,Mattew.....etc, to name a few that I was able to watch racing in the past few competitions, and then you get peolpe who have fake hero's and both groups benifit from this.A Believe is a very strong"thing" and most of us sport people know that, and that's why some people ignore the truth because if simlpy doesn't work for them.<br /><br />Most of the DA surpoters believe we should not be worried about the times he is posting and that is his bissiness if he post fake times and that he just don't care about proving his time.....<br /><br />My questions<br />Why is he using the C2 site at all for his purpose,if he don't care about his position in the world?????<br />Why is he using the honor board to lock his meters????(Rowpro could do it for him)<br />Why is he about the first one to take up the ctc chalange for the past 2 months(and posting better scores that Graham Benton)????<br /><br />My Answer: He likes to be a hero...You take your pick which kind<br /><br />My point of view:<br />If you claim WR and best times ever in the 40+ category:PROOF IT BY SHOWING UP AT CRASH-B or any other C2 competiton or get of the rankings and keep tolking to your buddies on the Forum<br />because I care since DA's time are pussing me one spot down on the rankings.<br /><br />PS: I live in South Africa and the rankings is my only means of measuring myself against my pears since we have no competitions in SA and I go to C2 competitions (forgive my spelling:English is my second language)<br /><br /><br />

[[old] kinley]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I can’t take the word of someone who comes on and within 5 minutes starts calling me a twit. </td></tr></table><br /><br />I'm sure many others have reached the same conclusion without logging on at all.

[[old] Chad Williams]

Hi Andreas<br /><br />This does affect you a lot, like you say you are being pushed down a place in the rankings.<br /><br />Dwayne-<br /><a href='http://www.crash-b.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.crash-b.org/</a><br /><br />Just do it!!

[[old] PaulH]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 05:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 05:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Andreas<br /><br />This does affect you a lot, like you say you are being pushed down a place in the rankings.<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />But there are hundreds of people above me in the rankings, and they're each pushing me down a place. So how do you suggest they all prove their times?<br /><br />Respectfully,<br />Paul

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 04:48 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 04:48 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Porkchop+Jan 18 2006, 04:30 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Jan 18 2006, 04:30 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You keep saying that you aren't questioning anyone's integrity, but you always come back to the point that D's other times (all entered under an <b><i>honor</i></b> system) seem inconsistent with the times for which you seek proof.  The not-very-subtle implication is that you suspect (or perhaps even believe) that they are false.  Unless the posted times are the result of typographical errors, they must have been deliberately falsified.  Ergo, you question the integrity of the man who entered them.  <br /><br />As to your "challenge":  It would be impossible to overstate the depth of my indifference to whether you are satisfied with the system. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Porkchop<br /><br />I have never claimed that any times or distances posted by Dwayne are false.<br /><br />I have asked for some proof that they have been rowed. Why people go of at tangents all the time I do not know.<br /><br />The title of the poll should have been better worded I will give you that. <br /><br />Take me to a post that I have entered and show me where is have name called or called anybody a cheat?<br /><br />I have been name called many times on this thread, am I throwing my toys out of the pram? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Well, then, if I invited forum participants to participate in a poll with the following choices, you wouldn't feel at all insulted, would you?<br /><br /><i>Do you think Chad Williams is:<br /><br />-- A callow twit?<br /><br />-- An ignorant buffoon?<br /><br />-- Lacking in common decency?<br /><br />-- Inept in the use of the English language?<br /><br />-- A man with serious concerns about the system under which indoor rowing times are recorded, who expresses eloquently the heartfelt yearning of all forum members for validation of Dwayne Adams' times?<br /><br />OR<br /><br />-- None of the above?</i><br /><br />Bear in mind, I haven't called you any nasty names -- I've just invited everyone else to do that, which, I suppose, is okay under the "Chad" system of internet etiquette.

[[old] Chad Williams]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulH+Jan 18 2006, 05:25 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulH @ Jan 18 2006, 05:25 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 05:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 05:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Andreas<br /><br />This does affect you a lot, like you say you are being pushed down a place in the rankings.<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />But there are hundreds of people above me in the rankings, and they're each pushing me down a place. So how do you suggest they all prove their times?<br /><br />Respectfully,<br />Paul <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Paul, you should be one place higher than you are.<br /><br />They don't have to prove their times, they are not claiming World class times like Dwayne is.<br /><br />If I rowed a 18.57.1 for a 6000m I would back that up with evidance as I would be top of the 6000m tree for 40+ Hwts.<br /><br />Before you ask what evidance, I have been through this already, thanks<br /><br /><br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

<!--QuoteBegin-Porkchop+Jan 18 2006, 05:33 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Jan 18 2006, 05:33 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 04:48 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 04:48 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Porkchop+Jan 18 2006, 04:30 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Jan 18 2006, 04:30 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You keep saying that you aren't questioning anyone's integrity, but you always come back to the point that D's other times (all entered under an <b><i>honor</i></b> system) seem inconsistent with the times for which you seek proof.  The not-very-subtle implication is that you suspect (or perhaps even believe) that they are false.  Unless the posted times are the result of typographical errors, they must have been deliberately falsified.  Ergo, you question the integrity of the man who entered them.  <br /><br />As to your "challenge":  It would be impossible to overstate the depth of my indifference to whether you are satisfied with the system. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Porkchop<br /><br />I have never claimed that any times or distances posted by Dwayne are false.<br /><br />I have asked for some proof that they have been rowed. Why people go of at tangents all the time I do not know.<br /><br />The title of the poll should have been better worded I will give you that. <br /><br />Take me to a post that I have entered and show me where is have name called or called anybody a cheat?<br /><br />I have been name called many times on this thread, am I throwing my toys out of the pram? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Well, then, if I invited forum participants to participate in a poll with the following choices, you wouldn't feel at all insulted, would you?<br /><br /><i>Do you think Chad Williams is:<br /><br />-- A callow twit?<br /><br />-- An ignorant buffoon?<br /><br />-- Lacking in common decency?<br /><br />-- Inept in the use of the English language?<br /><br />-- A man with serious concerns about the system under which indoor rowing times are recorded, who expresses eloquently the heartfelt yearning of all forum members for validation of Dwayne Adams' times?<br /><br />OR<br /><br />-- None of the above?</i><br /><br />Bear in mind, I haven't called you any nasty names -- I've just invited everyone else to do that, which, I suppose, is okay under the "Chad" system of internet etiquette. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hey Porkchop.<br />Knock yourself out, sounds like fun, If you want to do a poll about the above I have no problem with it.<br /><br />You go and set it up while the grown ups talk about serious matters.<br /><br />

[[old] sherm]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 02:35 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 02:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-sherm+Jan 18 2006, 12:55 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(sherm @ Jan 18 2006, 12:55 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i'm new to this thing but it seems to me that this chade dude should invest more energy in rowing and less in worrying about dwayne. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />So you know who much rowing and erging I do then? So I need to do more do I? <br /><br />How much do I owe your for you coaching advice? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />did you say you were in your 40's? you sure you're not a junior high student? i'm going to go back to running. at least those people just go on runs and then drink beer.

[[old] Andreas]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulH+Jan 18 2006, 05:25 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulH @ Jan 18 2006, 05:25 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 05:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 05:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Andreas<br /><br />This does affect you a lot, like you say you are being pushed down a place in the rankings.<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />But there are hundreds of people above me in the rankings, and they're each pushing me down a place. So how do you suggest they all prove their times?<br /><br />Respectfully,<br />Paul <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi Paul <br />Your signature explains this question<br />Respectfully<br />Andreas

[[old] Chad Williams]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 05:40 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 05:40 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->-- Inept in the use of the English language? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I will give you this one, to many punches to the head, 6 years of Boxing and 3 of Bushido does nothing for the spelling and grammar parts of the brain <br /><br /><br /><br />

[[old] Mark Keating]

May I suggest an additional choice:<br /><!--QuoteBegin-Porkchop+Jan 18 2006, 05:33 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Jan 18 2006, 05:33 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br /><i>Do you think Chad Williams is:<br /><br />--<b>John Rupp/John Frupp/Douggie Bowwow</b> <br /><br />--A callow twit?<br /><br />-- An ignorant buffoon?<br /><br />-- Lacking in common decency?<br /><br />-- Inept in the use of the English language?<br /><br />-- A man with serious concerns about the system under which indoor rowing times are recorded, who expresses eloquently the heartfelt yearning of all forum members for validation of Dwayne Adams' times?<br /><br />OR<br /><br />-- None of the above?</i><br /> </td></tr></table><br />There are too many sad similarities to ignore here IMO. <br /><br />Mark

[[old] TomR/the elder]

How come we've only got 73 votes in the poll?<br /><br />Vote PaulS. You've posted enough to demonstrate you "care." Votes are anonymous.<br /><br />Also meaningless, but that's a whole nother matter.<br /><br />Tom<br /><br />

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 02:47 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 02:47 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 18 2006, 05:40 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 18 2006, 05:40 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->-- Inept in the use of the English language? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I will give you this one, to many punches to the head, 6 years of Boxing and 3 of Bushido does nothing for the spelling and grammar parts of the brain <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Sounds like good preparation for Rowing. Where do you row now?