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[old] Hal Morgan
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Post by [old] Hal Morgan » September 17th, 2005, 11:29 pm

I do not have a shelter built for my shells. No boathouse space available.<br /><br /> I need to build a rack. I am not sure how to do this. Any ideas? Please help me find drawings and plans. Personal experiences with you own rack building.<br /><br /> Oregon is mild winter. average 45-55 degrees, light rain, mild wind, some freezing for a week or two. Gray sky not a lot off sun. Pollution from wood burning and traffic. Winter/spring last six months. <br /><br />I will cover my boats.

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Post by [old] jamesg » September 18th, 2005, 2:50 am

You need to know the maximum local snow and wind loads, as to building codes. Without these you cannot do any design work, and you risk the shed collapsing on your boats.

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Post by [old] Hal Morgan » September 18th, 2005, 10:48 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-jamesg+Sep 17 2005, 11:50 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(jamesg @ Sep 17 2005, 11:50 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You need to know the maximum local snow and wind loads, as to building codes. Without these you cannot do any design work, and you risk the shed collapsing on your boats. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Well lets see it's snows every year about and inch once or twice. It was snowed historically in 1963 2 feet. The wind has been as high as 60 on rare occasions.<br /><br />I am interested in the rack itself more than I am in a shed.<br /><br />Thank you for your reply.<br /><br />Anyone make there own rack?

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Post by [old] jamesg » September 19th, 2005, 5:06 am

It all depends on the available space and the size and number of the boats. I used bits of scaffolding, very simple as I only use it for one 1x.

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Post by [old] Hal Morgan » September 19th, 2005, 11:24 am

I have to 27 ft long singles. They are race trim. Has anyone made there own rack?

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Post by [old] PaulS » September 19th, 2005, 1:01 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Hal Morgan+Sep 19 2005, 08:24 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Hal Morgan @ Sep 19 2005, 08:24 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have to 27 ft long singles. They are race trim. Has anyone made there own rack? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hal,<br /><br />What brand of boat? If not something standard, do they have canvas (soft) or hard decks, what type of contour do the decks have (Flat, rounded, peaked)?<br /><br />Are you building the rack on the side of an existing structure, or will it need to be self-supporting?<br /><br />I'm assuming that you will store the boats unrigged, ther othe thing to do is remove the seats and Stretchers, especially the stretchers, as moisture that accumulates in cloth can get pretty nasty when cooped up under a boat cover. <br /><br />I built a rack to hold our 2x and a 1x that hangs from a Deck, using Square aluminum tubes and Metal shelf supports. For unrigged boats, the 19" shelf supports attached to a structure wall would be more than enough support for a 1x, and run about $15/pair at Home Depot. (You probably don't need the 19" length for a 1x, but just make sure that there id enough room to have clearance. A loose strap that will keep the hull from falling off if bumped or blown is a good security precaution.

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Post by [old] Hal Morgan » September 19th, 2005, 8:10 pm

One is an 1990 aylings single carbon fiber honey comb. the other is hudson 1990 wood single, soft top. I think the shelf brackets are a great idea. I think that I will store them outside. I think I can sink some fence post into the ground and mount the shelf brackets. Storing one above the other. Thanks for the tip on removing everthing I was going to remove only the rigs. Paul, how do you lock up your shells?

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Post by [old] PaulS » September 20th, 2005, 12:08 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Hal Morgan+Sep 19 2005, 05:10 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Hal Morgan @ Sep 19 2005, 05:10 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->One is an 1990 aylings single carbon fiber honey comb. the other is hudson 1990 wood single, soft top. I think the shelf brackets are a great idea. I think that I will store them outside. I think I can sink some fence post into the ground and mount the shelf brackets. Storing one above the other. Thanks for the tip on removing everthing I was going to remove only the rigs. Paul, how do you lock up your shells? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Fortunately, the boats are located in a relatively secure location. We do run a long cable through the riggers with a combination lock (so at least the riggers would still be there if an ambitious thief were to go to work, maybe.) I think that with these kind of boats, transportation is such a hassle that theft is very unlikely, but the bungee cords that prevent the boat from slipping off in a wind or bump are the most useful protection. And removing the easily portable bits. I'm not aware of any truly secure ways to lock up a boat that is outside. We also have insurance for the boats.<br /><br />Shaping some foam to the contour of the deck (a fairly solid packing foam rather than really squishy stuff) will help to protect the decks. Also space the supports so that they align with ribs on the hudson, the Aylings should be fine with that spacing.

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Post by [old] gorow9 » September 22nd, 2005, 1:25 am

On the soft top make sure that the boat is resting withit's weight on teh gunnel not on the top. Also maybe make the rack a few inches down to the stern and take out the stern plug and other hatches so that if any moisture gets in (perhaps through the skeg alghough unlikely) there won't be a big problem. Anyways that's what I'd suggest. Good luck<br />~Sara~

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Post by [old] Hal Morgan » September 22nd, 2005, 9:31 am

<!--QuoteBegin-gorow9+Sep 21 2005, 10:25 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(gorow9 @ Sep 21 2005, 10:25 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->" teh gunnel not on the top"~Sara~ <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Sara what is a teh gunnel? <br /><br />Thanks,<br />Hal Morgan

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Post by [old] Porkchop » September 22nd, 2005, 10:05 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Hal Morgan+Sep 22 2005, 08:31 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Hal Morgan @ Sep 22 2005, 08:31 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-gorow9+Sep 21 2005, 10:25 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(gorow9 @ Sep 21 2005, 10:25 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->" teh gunnel not on the top"~Sara~ <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Sara what is a teh gunnel? <br /><br />Thanks,<br />Hal Morgan <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I think she means "the gunwale."

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Post by [old] gorow9 » September 23rd, 2005, 7:00 pm

Oops... sorry for that typo, I did mean the "gunwale" although at my club we usually spell it "gunnel" (in my defense) Anyways again sorry for that.<br />~Sara~

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Post by [old] rspenger » September 23rd, 2005, 10:41 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-gorow9+Sep 23 2005, 04:00 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(gorow9 @ Sep 23 2005, 04:00 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oops... sorry for that typo, I did mean the "gunwale" although at my club we usually spell it "gunnel" (in my defense)    Anyways again sorry for that.<br />~Sara~ <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Webster's gives both, so don't sweat it.<br /><br />Bob S.

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Post by [old] Hal Morgan » September 23rd, 2005, 10:55 pm

The part that threw me off was the "teh" I thought it was some special area on the shell that only experienced folks new about. Good to see that "teh" is really "the"<br /><br />While am am here let me pose another question. <br />Why is important not to leave the shell in a sling for long lengths of time? Mine stay in the sling all week. cover from the elements but none the less in good stout slings.

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Post by [old] Porkchop » September 23rd, 2005, 11:06 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-rspenger+Sep 23 2005, 09:41 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(rspenger @ Sep 23 2005, 09:41 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-gorow9+Sep 23 2005, 04:00 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(gorow9 @ Sep 23 2005, 04:00 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oops... sorry for that typo, I did mean the "gunwale" although at my club we usually spell it "gunnel" (in my defense)     Anyways again sorry for that.<br />~Sara~ <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Webster's gives both, so don't sweat it.<br /><br />Bob S. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />But the United States Navy does not!

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