Model C?

[[old] TRIBUM]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Mar 20 2005, 08:15 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Mar 20 2005, 08:15 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Akit110 and Tribum,<br /><br />I do repetitions twice a week or so.<br /><br />The pm2+ starts when I do, so I can keep to a regular interval and start time.<br /><br />The pm3 starts on it's own.  So if I went over a little on the break the monitor would start even though I wasn't back on the erg, and would result in having to stop the monitor and reset it again for the remainder of the repetitions, which would then be out of synch with each other.  The only alternative on the pm3 is to not set any rest interval and use a standard clock, but then have to reset the monitor after each repetition.  <br /><br />That is a lot of messing around when the pm2 does this all quite efficiently.<br /><br />Also with the pm3 it is possible to start ahead of the end of the rest interval.<br /><br />Since the pm2 starts when I do, there is no starting ahead of time <b>because the time starts at the same time that I do.</b>  For example when I'm doing 1:00 repetitions with 30 second rests, I set the interval for 22 seconds and start every 90 seconds by either the sweep second hand of a clock on the wall or my digital timer on the erg, and the same for longer repetitions.<br /><br />Also the pm2 has an even count down of the meters and the pm3 doesn't.<br /><br />Thus for me the pm2 has many IMPORTANT advantages that the pm3 does not have.  Some might like the pm3 better but in my opinion it's just an albatross and is certainly not anywhere as good as the pm2+. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I see. You meant specifically for you it has less value. An albatross? I don't think I'd call it that. It interfaces via the USB port much easier with newer PCs. Hopefully I can attract a person who appreciates technology when marketing my rower on EBay.<br />

[[old] akit110]

<!--QuoteBegin-TRIBUM+Mar 21 2005, 12:31 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TRIBUM @ Mar 21 2005, 12:31 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Mar 20 2005, 08:15 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Mar 20 2005, 08:15 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Akit110 and Tribum,<br /><br />I do repetitions twice a week or so.<br /><br />The pm2+ starts when I do, so I can keep to a regular interval and start time.<br /><br />The pm3 starts on it's own.  So if I went over a little on the break the monitor would start even though I wasn't back on the erg, and would result in having to stop the monitor and reset it again for the remainder of the repetitions, which would then be out of synch with each other.  The only alternative on the pm3 is to not set any rest interval and use a standard clock, but then have to reset the monitor after each repetition.  <br /><br />That is a lot of messing around when the pm2 does this all quite efficiently.<br /><br />Also with the pm3 it is possible to start ahead of the end of the rest interval.<br /><br />Since the pm2 starts when I do, there is no starting ahead of time <b>because the time starts at the same time that I do.</b>  For example when I'm doing 1:00 repetitions with 30 second rests, I set the interval for 22 seconds and start every 90 seconds by either the sweep second hand of a clock on the wall or my digital timer on the erg, and the same for longer repetitions.<br /><br />Also the pm2 has an even count down of the meters and the pm3 doesn't.<br /><br />Thus for me the pm2 has many IMPORTANT advantages that the pm3 does not have.  Some might like the pm3 better but in my opinion it's just an albatross and is certainly not anywhere as good as the pm2+. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I see. You meant specifically for you it has less value. An albatross? I don't think I'd call it that. It interfaces via the USB port much easier with newer PCs. Hopefully I can attract a person who appreciates technology when marketing my rower on EBay. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I would be curious to see what your machine gets on Ebay. I suspect you will be very pleased with the final auction price if a plain vanilla Model Cs can hit $700. <br /><br />It's great that the resale market is so good for C2 rowers. In comparison, I had to sell my mid-90s Nordictrack Achiever (better than standard model at an original price of $700) for $50 to unload it. <br />

[[old] John Rupp]

Model B's have been going for $400 or so, often in not very good condition and with the pm1 and old seat.<br /><br />Based on that I'd say mine is worth at least $500 but am keeping it for the time being, maybe until the pm2->4 comes out. <br /><br />I do like the concept of the model D, but won't get one unless it has a useful monitor.<br /><br />If the monitor didn't matter, I would have gotten the water rower.

[[old] TRIBUM]

<!--QuoteBegin-akit110+Mar 21 2005, 06:36 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(akit110 @ Mar 21 2005, 06:36 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TRIBUM+Mar 21 2005, 12:31 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TRIBUM @ Mar 21 2005, 12:31 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Mar 20 2005, 08:15 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Mar 20 2005, 08:15 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Akit110 and Tribum,<br /><br />I do repetitions twice a week or so.<br /><br />The pm2+ starts when I do, so I can keep to a regular interval and start time.<br /><br />The pm3 starts on it's own.  So if I went over a little on the break the monitor would start even though I wasn't back on the erg, and would result in having to stop the monitor and reset it again for the remainder of the repetitions, which would then be out of synch with each other.  The only alternative on the pm3 is to not set any rest interval and use a standard clock, but then have to reset the monitor after each repetition.  <br /><br />That is a lot of messing around when the pm2 does this all quite efficiently.<br /><br />Also with the pm3 it is possible to start ahead of the end of the rest interval.<br /><br />Since the pm2 starts when I do, there is no starting ahead of time <b>because the time starts at the same time that I do.</b>  For example when I'm doing 1:00 repetitions with 30 second rests, I set the interval for 22 seconds and start every 90 seconds by either the sweep second hand of a clock on the wall or my digital timer on the erg, and the same for longer repetitions.<br /><br />Also the pm2 has an even count down of the meters and the pm3 doesn't.<br /><br />Thus for me the pm2 has many IMPORTANT advantages that the pm3 does not have.  Some might like the pm3 better but in my opinion it's just an albatross and is certainly not anywhere as good as the pm2+. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I see. You meant specifically for you it has less value. An albatross? I don't think I'd call it that. It interfaces via the USB port much easier with newer PCs. Hopefully I can attract a person who appreciates technology when marketing my rower on EBay. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I would be curious to see what your machine gets on Ebay. I suspect you will be very pleased with the final auction price if a plain vanilla Model Cs can hit $700. <br /><br />It's great that the resale market is so good for C2 rowers. In comparison, I had to sell my mid-90s Nordictrack Achiever (better than standard model at an original price of $700) for $50 to unload it. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hope so! High $700s would be very nice!

[[old] Canoeist]

"It's great that the resale market is so good for C2 rowers. In comparison, I had to sell my mid-90s Nordictrack Achiever (better than standard model at an original price of $700) for $50 to unload it."<br /><br /><br />Many times, I have seen NordicTrack machines in good condition, left free for the taking at our town disposal (dump) area. (We have an area set aside for good but unwanted items that anyone can take.) I look every week, but have never seen a Concept rowing machine.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Paul Flack