Dwayne Posted As Missing In Action

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=57924:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:06 PM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Mar 1 2006, 03:06 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>At the moment I haven,t read one line from where he is even talking about racing.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />So?

[[old] dadams]

<!--quoteo(post=57923:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:01 PM:name=PaulS)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Mar 1 2006, 03:01 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57916:date=Mar 1 2006, 11:41 AM:name=dadams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Mar 1 2006, 11:41 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57903:date=Mar 1 2006, 01:41 PM:name=PaulS)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Mar 1 2006, 01:41 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>...and now it has morphed into some sort of strange inquisition where facts are few and far between. I can't see how anyone would really enjoy presenting information that could be embarrassing to someone else, but I'm sure it's possible that they could be goaded into it eventually.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Any Psychologists/Psychiatrists out there? Am I correct with my diagnosis...OCD? If not the text book definition, then maybe bording on?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Diagnose who? Me? ODD. 8)<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I would never talk about you like that Paul. I meant the orginator of the majority of these threads.

[[old] H_2O]

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[[old] hjs]

<!--quoteo(post=57927:date=Mar 1 2006, 09:17 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 1 2006, 09:17 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57924:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:06 PM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Mar 1 2006, 03:06 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>At the moment I haven,t read one line from where he is even talking about racing.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />So?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />nouf said , I call it a day. <br /><br />Good luck with your distrackions. <br /><br />Cheers<br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--quoteo(post=57879:date=Mar 1 2006, 12:02 PM:name=todd)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(todd @ Mar 1 2006, 12:02 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->You can write about me too... There is no way my times are as slow as they are posted. They've not been verified either! </td></tr></table><br /><!--quoteo(post=57881:date=Mar 1 2006, 09:05 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 1 2006, 09:05 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->You cheater ... posting times slower than you know you can row ... how dare you! You're letting nobody down but youself ... you should be ashamed of yourself. Go post the times you "feel" you should be rowing right now ... go ... go! </td></tr></table><br />Isn't that the type of message, though not posted by anyone but yourself, that got you so upset and started all your endless nonsensical rants.<br /><br />Why don't you focus on yourself and do something constructive for a change.

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--quoteo(post=57916:date=Mar 1 2006, 02:41 PM:name=dadams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Mar 1 2006, 02:41 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57903:date=Mar 1 2006, 01:41 PM:name=PaulS)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Mar 1 2006, 01:41 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>...and now it has morphed into some sort of strange inquisition where facts are few and far between. I can't see how anyone would really enjoy presenting information that could be embarrassing to someone else, but I'm sure it's possible that they could be goaded into it eventually.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Any Psychologists/Psychiatrists out there? Am I correct with my diagnosis...OCD? If not the text book definition, then maybe bording on?<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Well, there is also a bit of paranoia involved, too. (Paraphrasing: "I have proof but I won't give it to you, because you will just twist it.") Also, perhaps, a bit of narcissism. Certainly, there is a certain amount of impulsive behavior, as well. I guess we won't really know if he's OCD, though, until he starts repeating pointless behavior over and over -- oh, wait maybe you're right. But, of course, I'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist -- they wear much nicer suits than I do.

[[old] tomhz]

<!--quoteo(post=57738:date=Mar 1 2006, 01:34 AM:name=H_2O)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(H_2O @ Mar 1 2006, 01:34 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br />I can only come up with the following sinister explanation:<br />Dwayne and Chad are <b>office collegues</b> working for the CIA or the Office of Special Plans, Internet Division, Research and Development:<br /><br />Project: Internet beliefs, shaping, robustness and persistence.<br /><br />Chad, the bas*ard, is coming in now in the robustness testing phase. One thing is for sure: we'll never see <br /><b>him</b> near an erg.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /> <br /><br />Sorry, I had to reply in this terrible discussion. I cannot help it.<br /><br />Tom

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=57954:date=Mar 1 2006, 04:18 PM:name=John Rupp)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Mar 1 2006, 04:18 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57879:date=Mar 1 2006, 12:02 PM:name=todd)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(todd @ Mar 1 2006, 12:02 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->You can write about me too... There is no way my times are as slow as they are posted. They've not been verified either! </td></tr></table><br /><!--quoteo(post=57881:date=Mar 1 2006, 09:05 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 1 2006, 09:05 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->You cheater ... posting times slower than you know you can row ... how dare you! You're letting nobody down but youself ... you should be ashamed of yourself. Go post the times you "feel" you should be rowing right now ... go ... go! </td></tr></table><br />Isn't that the type of message, though not posted by anyone but yourself, that got you so upset and started all your endless nonsensical rants.<br /><br />Why don't you focus on yourself and do something constructive for a change. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />John, I may be wrong here, but I believe Todd was joking, and I was joking back ... making light of just how STUPID this whole topic is.<br /><br />Todd, am I correct?

[[old] Thomas]

I actually find this topic to be brilliant in an indirect manner. It is actually not about Dwayne but the integrity of the ranking system. What reasonable measures are in place to ensure the integrity of the ranking system and are those measures enforced.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />To answer my own posting, it appears Concept 2 is on top of it.

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=57978:date=Mar 1 2006, 05:39 PM:name=Thomas)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Thomas @ Mar 1 2006, 05:39 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I actually find this topic to be brilliant in an indirect manner. It is actually not about Dwayne but the integrity of the ranking system. What reasonable measures are in place to ensure the integrity of the ranking system and are those measures enforced.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />To answer my own posting, it appears Concept 2 is on top of it.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thomas:<br /><br />Please don't try to put this innane exchange back on a reasonable and logical path. What fun would that be?<br /><br /> <br /><br />-- Mark<br /><br /><!--quoteo(post=57956:date=Mar 1 2006, 04:21 PM:name=Porkchop)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Mar 1 2006, 04:21 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>[-- they wear much nicer suits than I do.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />PC:<br /><br />I'll wager they had to sacrifice a whole lotta polyesters to make your suits. I'll have to report ya to PETA -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Acrylics.<br /><br />-- MP<br />

[[old] FrancoisA]

<!--quoteo(post=57966:date=Mar 1 2006, 09:39 PM:name=stupefaction)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(stupefaction @ Mar 1 2006, 09:39 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Although I think the scores claimed by Mr. Adams are well within the realm of the possible, even for a man of his age and bodybuilder's physique, I don't believe that he himself is capable of them. His failure to pull a sub-7 in public and his often bizarre responses to sincere queries lead me to this conclusion. When Xeno wanted to know why Mr. Adams has been reporting a vastly increased training volume over the past few years without any improvement in his trial scores, he mumbled something about improving his aerobic base and left it at that. He has never explained why he doesn't take part in erg races, although he is perfectly willing to post his scores at the top of every ranking. He has repeatedly promised photographs and videos without delivering any. His only races take place on water, in a double with a 60-year-old of indeterminate talent for a partner, thereby conveniently diluting his performance.<br /><br />In sum, Mr. Adams has taken a great deal of effort to report fabulous training volumes and trial scores, making himself one of the most prominent members of the erging community, yet he has done absolutely nothing to allow the public to measure his performance. The testimony of his associates and a verification code from a machine tucked away in his garage count for nothing. If I were a judge, I would convict Mr. Adams of fraud. But I am only a citizen, so I merely accuse. Mr. Adams, I believe you are a fraud. I worry that your fraudulent actions bring our humble sport into disrepute. If you wish to answer my charge, please take part in any public erg competition sponsored by Concept2, and show us a performance within 5% or even 10% of your claimed scores. Alterrnatively, please retire from the sport and make no further claims as to your prowess.<br /> </td></tr></table><br />There are some good points raised here, although IMO, it is wrong to jump to the conclusion that Dwayne is a fraud.<br /><br />It is also enlightening to reread the still quite relevant <a href="http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?s ... st&p=52518" target="_blank">post</a> by Mike Caviston on the subject.<br /><br />And then there are the splits and SR of the 5:46 2K<br /><!--quoteo(post=57426:date=Feb 27 2006, 04:49 PM:name=Graham Benton)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Graham Benton @ Feb 27 2006, 04:49 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->Graham,<br />Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.<br /><br />Do I think I could have gone any quicker - In a nut shell...no way. I started the piece all off the mark. Started my SR way to slow. I've been doing so much distance and steady state stuff as of late, I just wasn't thinking. My first 500 (or so)m was at a 26. Not really how I need to get this thing off.<br /><br />So I kicked up the SR to around a 38 to lighten up the handle. But of course by the time I hit the 1600 to 1700 mark, the handle was still way to heavy. Really felt like stopping at this point, but the word 'Chad' kept popping in my head. Sooo...stepped the last 250 to 300m in at around a 50 spm to finish. One word...TOUGH!!!<br /><br />But I think even if I had made the start the way I normally do I couldn't have pushed it any faster. Just a feeling, can't really explain it. I really think this was my fastest.<br /><br />Anyway, the splits are below...<br /><br />500 - 1:25.6<br />1000 - 1:27.8<br />1500 - 1:26.6<br />2000 - 1:26.2<br /><br /><br />Dwayne<br /><br /> </td></tr></table><br /> </td></tr></table><br />I am really puzzled by those stroke rates. Even a complete beginner would not change its stroke rate like that. It is highly inefficient. A SR of 50 for the last 300m that results in a slower pace than when the SR was 26 Strange... It is as if three different persons have been rowing in succession...

[[old] dadams]

<!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->His only races take place on water, in a double with a 60-year-old of indeterminate talent for a partner, thereby conveniently diluting his performance. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Let me tell you something right now folks. You can drag me into this thing as much as you like. But <b>do not</b> drag my doubles partner into this. FYI - His 2k time this year ranks him 8th in the world (for more info, go to riosaladorowing.org - AIRC results - Ted Noyes). So he's hardly indeterminate as a talent. In fact a much better sculler than I am. So blow that crap right out your arse.<br /><br />Sorry for my outburst...you may continue my thrashing.

[[old] PaulS]

<!--quoteo(post=58013:date=Mar 1 2006, 05:46 PM:name=dadams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Mar 1 2006, 05:46 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->His only races take place on water, in a double with a 60-year-old of indeterminate talent for a partner, thereby conveniently diluting his performance. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Let me tell you something right now folks. You can drag me into this thing as much as you like. But <b>do not</b> drag my doubles partner into this. FYI - His 2k time this year ranks him 8th in the world (for more info, go to riosaladorowing.org - AIRC results - Ted Noyes). So he's hardly indeterminate as a talent. In fact a much better sculler than I am. So blow that crap right out your arse.<br /><br />Sorry for my outburst...you may continue my thrashing. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />So maybe it was you diluting Teds performance... <br /><br />I'm pretty sure that's what I did to my Ted... And since my wife is the Gold Medalist I'm almost certain it's what I do to hers. <br /><br />Maybe we should get in a boat together and just sink that sucker!

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=58013:date=Mar 1 2006, 08:46 PM:name=dadams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Mar 1 2006, 08:46 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->His only races take place on water, in a double with a 60-year-old of indeterminate talent for a partner, thereby conveniently diluting his performance. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Let me tell you something right now folks. You can drag me into this thing as much as you like. But <b>do not</b> drag my doubles partner into this. FYI - His 2k time this year ranks him 8th in the world (for more info, go to riosaladorowing.org - AIRC results - Ted Noyes). So he's hardly indeterminate as a talent. In fact a much better sculler than I am. So blow that crap right out your arse.<br /><br />Sorry for my outburst...you may continue my thrashing. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />And, in his age/weight class, Stupefaction would be ranked tied for #53 (assuming age 19-29, LW).<br /><br />So, Ted Noyes, the indeterminate talent, kicks Stupe's tail.<br /><br /> <br /><br />

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--quoteo(post=57979:date=Mar 1 2006, 05:47 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 1 2006, 05:47 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57956:date=Mar 1 2006, 04:21 PM:name=Porkchop)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Mar 1 2006, 04:21 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>[-- they wear much nicer suits than I do.<br /> </td></tr></table><br />PC:<br />I'll wager they had to sacrifice a whole lotta polyesters to make your suits. I'll have to report ya to PETA -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Acrylics.<br />-- MP<br /> </td></tr></table><br />I'll have you know that I have a partial interest in a polyester farm, so I get my cheap suits even cheaper. We have high standards for the humane treatment of polyesters and all other acrylics.