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Post by [old] Cant Climb » February 27th, 2006, 12:12 pm

I have been following the Chad threads from Day one......<br /><br />I don't know who to believe, no one has any reason to believe Chad more than Dwayne<br />or vice versa. I never met Dwayne so i can not vouch for his character, can anyone here...?<br />Seems like a decent enough guy (Dwayne) though.....<br /><br />I hope Dwaynes times are real because as a fan of athletics i find them marveling....<br /><br />But entering one soild time at a sanctioned public event would put to rest any doubt,<br />......beyond a reasonable doubt......

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Post by [old] Graham Benton » February 27th, 2006, 12:15 pm

Dwayne, you were kind enough to send me a summary of how your 2k went. It would probably be something that would interest a lot of people so would you be ok with me cutting and pasting it into this thread. It was sent as a PM though so I will only do so if you are ok with it.<br /><br />I so nearly got your time on Saturday ... admittedly, it was only afterwards that I realised I was a few tenths short and I went as quick as I could but I'll get you one day, old man. :wink:

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Post by [old] dadams » February 27th, 2006, 12:44 pm

<!--quoteo(post=57419:date=Feb 27 2006, 11:15 AM:name=Graham Benton)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Graham Benton @ Feb 27 2006, 11:15 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Dwayne, you were kind enough to send me a summary of how your 2k went. It would probably be something that would interest a lot of people so would you be ok with me cutting and pasting it into this thread. It was sent as a PM though so I will only do so if you are ok with it.<br /><br />I so nearly got your time on Saturday ... admittedly, it was only afterwards that I realised I was a few tenths short and I went as quick as I could but I'll get you one day, old man. :wink:<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Sure you can post it if you'd like Graham.<br /><br />To be honest, I was hoping you would overtake my time. I believe you have alot more potential left in you. I can even see you hitting the low 40's, if not the high thirties someday.<br /><br />Congratulations on your hammer. Well deserved.

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Post by [old] Graham Benton » February 27th, 2006, 12:49 pm

Cheers Dwayne - I believe I can get down to maybe even just under 5:40 but the gains are going to be hard fought from now on. I think my current form is around 5:44 on a good day so still some way to go though.<br /><br />Here is your PM from shortly after you did you 2k.<br /><br /><!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->Graham,<br />Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.<br /><br />Do I think I could have gone any quicker - In a nut shell...no way. I started the piece all off the mark. Started my SR way to slow. I've been doing so much distance and steady state stuff as of late, I just wasn't thinking. My first 500 (or so)m was at a 26. Not really how I need to get this thing off.<br /><br />So I kicked up the SR to around a 38 to lighten up the handle. But of course by the time I hit the 1600 to 1700 mark, the handle was still way to heavy. Really felt like stopping at this point, but the word 'Chad' kept popping in my head. Sooo...stepped the last 250 to 300m in at around a 50 spm to finish. One word...TOUGH!!!<br /><br />But I think even if I had made the start the way I normally do I couldn't have pushed it any faster. Just a feeling, can't really explain it. I really think this was my fastest.<br /><br />Anyway, the splits are below...<br /><br />500 - 1:25.6<br />1000 - 1:27.8<br />1500 - 1:26.6<br />2000 - 1:26.2<br /><br /><br />Dwayne<br /><br /> </td></tr></table>

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Post by [old] John Rupp » February 27th, 2006, 12:50 pm

<!--quoteo(post=57341:date=Feb 27 2006, 03:39 PM:name=John Rupp)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Feb 27 2006, 03:39 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->George,<br /><br />Can you tell me Dwayne's time at the Crash-B's this weekend?<br /><br />I checked the standings down to 51st place and 7:51 but didn't see his name listed.<br /><br />Maybe he took the wrong plane? Or couldn't find Boston?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><!--quoteo(post=57344:date=Feb 26 2006, 07:09 PM:name=george nz)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Feb 26 2006, 07:09 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->John what is the point of such a post. It really does nothing for your credibility as you know Dwayne was not going to attend. Like Chad if you want to accuse Dwayne of something be man enough to do it directly and support your position with facts. This other stuff is just childish.<br /><br />George </td></tr></table><br />Hi George,<br /><br />Thanks for your reply. <br /><br />Well the point is I am trying to find out what Dwayne's time was at WIRC.<br /><br />As you said, I "knew" he wasn't going to attend. But I didn't really "know" that, preferring to give him the benefit of some doubt that he'd be able to show up for the event.<br /><br />After all, Boston is closer than South Africa.<br /><br />I certainly didn't mean to accuse Dwayne of not showing up.<br /><br />Did he show up?<br /><br />As posted before, I looked at the results and 51st place in his division was 7:51 and his name is not showing up there anywhere.<br /><br />Maybe his time was so fast that it ran off the end of the page? :D <br /><br />If you know his time and place, please do let me know, as I would like to find out what it was.<br /><br />Thanks much!

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Post by [old] mpukita » February 27th, 2006, 12:56 pm

<!--quoteo(post=57388:date=Feb 27 2006, 08:37 AM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 27 2006, 08:37 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57383:date=Feb 27 2006, 02:32 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 27 2006, 02:32 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>As expected (and predicted), old Chad doesn't have chickens%$t ... just his weak theories and innuendo ... "feelings' ... jeez, get a life Chad ... and, what were YOUR times at BIRC, EIRC, and WIRC my friend? You're such a fan of racing, I'm sure YOU were there, right?<br /><br />You're losing face Chad ... now, even those that gave you some benefit of the doubt last go are asking you to PUT UP or SHUT UP.<br /><br /><b>PRODUCE dude, PRODUCE!</b><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />You know he didn,t race there and you know he wants to race next season in the open class.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />OK, so what's his beef with Dwayne not racing if he didn't? ... and, BTW, just because he says he's going to race in the open class doesn't mean he shows HJS. It appears Chad loves to talk about what he's got ... on Dwayne, his training, etc., but has no proof of any of that either. To me, he's one of the biggest blow hards here. At least Ranger raced and produced. I feel it's likely he won't show at the events he's talking about either, based on his history here. All talk, no action.<br /><br /><!--quoteo(post=57400:date=Feb 27 2006, 09:09 AM:name=Stretch)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Stretch @ Feb 27 2006, 09:09 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57358:date=Feb 27 2006, 04:43 AM:name=Chad Williams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Feb 27 2006, 04:43 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->... sit tight my friends, all will be reviled soon ... </td></tr></table><br />Best. Freudian. Slip. Ever.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I saw that, but you had quicker fingers Stretch ... but someone will likely need to explain why it's so ironic to dear Chad ...

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Post by [old] mpukita » February 27th, 2006, 1:14 pm

Let's all face what this is ...<br /><br />Chad has no information ... no "goods" ... and, he's not the shrewdest guy around either, that's clear.<br /><br />In essence, he's like a prosecutor who has a big case in front of him, lots of publicity in the newspapers and tabloids, yet no evidence ... because the police did a rotten job, or the defendant is innocent. He has no idea, because he has no idea ... he's clueless. No data to work from. But, he's gotten caught up in the mayhem, and has promised the public that he will get a conviction of the defendant, because his ego has outpaced his character, so he's got to stick to his guns and do what he can to save face. In essence, he'll sell his soul to get a conviction, whether the defendant is guilty or not ... because he's not honorable, he only cares, selfishly, about his own career and his own hide.<br /><br />So, what does he do? He keeps pounding and pounding on theories, innuendo, rumours, insinuations, hoping that the defendant will somehow implicate himself by "slipping up". Once again, no care on the prosecutor's part if the defendent is really guilty, and if the "slip up" is just that, a mistake. Once again, this dishonorabe prosecutor cares for nobody or no one but himself.<br /><br />And, he keeps telling the jury, right from the opening statements and arguments, "I have the goods. I have the smoking gun. I will see you convict this man!" because he has to ... he has nothing else. Drag it on as long as possible, maybe the defendant will slip up ... maybe the delay will uncover some evidence ... although deep down inside, this dishonorable character knows the truth ... this defendant can't be convicted because there is no evidence other than rumour, innuendo, theory, feelings, and crap, which is no evidence at all.<br /><br />This is the story of Chad ... Sad Chad ... Miserible Chad ... imagine having to live like Chad ... where the only pleasure you get is in tearing someone else down, not performing yourself. Awful. Miserible. Terrible. Sad. Sad Chad.<br /><br />That's all this is ... sadly ...<br /><br /> :( <br /><br />-- Mark

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Post by [old] John Rupp » February 27th, 2006, 1:18 pm

<!--quoteo(post=57429:date=Feb 27 2006, 08:56 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 27 2006, 08:56 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>on Dwayne, his training, etc., but has no proof of any of that either. To me, he's one of the biggest blow hards here. </td></tr></table><br /><br />This must be a freudian slip. :D <br />

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Post by [old] FrancoisA » February 27th, 2006, 1:26 pm

<!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->Graham,<br />Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.<br /><br />Do I think I could have gone any quicker - In a nut shell...no way. I started the piece all off the mark. Started my SR way to slow. I've been doing so much distance and steady state stuff as of late, I just wasn't thinking. My first 500 (or so)m was at a 26. Not really how I need to get this thing off.<br /><br />So I kicked up the SR to around a 38 to lighten up the handle. But of course by the time I hit the 1600 to 1700 mark, the handle was still way to heavy. Really felt like stopping at this point, but the word 'Chad' kept popping in my head. Sooo...stepped the last 250 to 300m in at around a 50 spm to finish. One word...TOUGH!!!<br /><br />But I think even if I had made the start the way I normally do I couldn't have pushed it any faster. Just a feeling, can't really explain it. I really think this was my fastest.<br /><br />Anyway, the splits are below...<br /><br />500 - 1:25.6<br />1000 - 1:27.8<br />1500 - 1:26.6<br />2000 - 1:26.2<br /><br /><br />Dwayne<br /><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Using the information above, one can easily compute the average stroke rate for the whole 2K, which is around 36 spm. <br /><br />Here are the details (assuming the switch to 50 spm happened at the 1700m mark):<br />Average SR = [(26 x 85.6) + 38 x (87.8 + 86.6 + 2/5 x 86.6) + 50 x 3/5 x 86.2 ] /346.2 = 36.8<br /><br />If the switch to 50 spm happened at the 1750m mark, the average SR would be 36.5 spm<br /><br />Hope this help!<br /><br />Cheers!<br />

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Post by [old] hjs » February 27th, 2006, 1:27 pm

[quote name='mpukita' date='Feb 27 2006, 05:56 PM' post='57429']<br />[quote name='hjs' post='57388' date='Feb 27 2006, 08:37 AM']<br />[quote name='mpukita' post='57383' date='Feb 27 2006, 02:32 PM']<br />As expected (and predicted), old Chad doesn't have chickens%$t ... just his weak theories and innuendo ... "feelings' ... jeez, get a life Chad ... and, what were YOUR times at BIRC, EIRC, and WIRC my friend? You're such a fan of racing, I'm sure YOU were there, right?<br /><br />You're losing face Chad ... now, even those that gave you some benefit of the doubt last go are asking you to PUT UP or SHUT UP.<br /><br /><b>PRODUCE dude, PRODUCE!</b><br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />You know he didn,t race there and you know he wants to race next season in the open class.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />OK, so what's his beef with Dwayne not racing if he didn't? ... and, BTW, just because he says he's going to race in the open class doesn't mean he shows HJS. It appears Chad loves to talk about what he's got ... on Dwayne, his training, etc., but has no proof of any of that either. To me, he's one of the biggest blow hards here. At least Ranger raced and produced. I feel it's likely he won't show at the events he's talking about either, based on his history here. All talk, no action.<br /><br /><br /><br />Mark, we will see if he will show up and what he pulls next year. No point, I think, in arguing upfront on that. <br /><br />And don,t talk about ranger, that man doesn,t do 90 % of what he says, but he did at least one race and has done much more in the past. <br />I offcause Chad hasn't proof, there can never be, any proof, he is just trying to build up the pressure on Dwayne, that's all.

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Post by [old] Chad Williams » February 27th, 2006, 1:31 pm

<!--quoteo(post=57433:date=Feb 27 2006, 12:14 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 27 2006, 12:14 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Let's all face what this is ...<br /><br /><i><!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Edited out the mindless crap that was written here<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></i><br /><br />-- Mark<br /> </td></tr></table><br />My life could be a lot worse....................I could wake up one day and find I am you!!<br />Mark, stop quacking a read what is going on.<br /><br />46spm. that means Dwaynes last 500m must be something like 70spm if your first 500m was rowed at 26spm and the second 500m at 38spm.<br /><br />Who rowed the 3rd and 4th 500m Dwayne.<br /><br />Using the same SPI as your 2000m time of 5.46 your 500m time of 1.14.5 was rowed at 66spm and your 1000m at 54spm.<br /><br /><br /><b>Explain to me how you could up the rate by such a massive amount but keep the splits so consistent?</b><br /><br />

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Post by [old] Porkchop » February 27th, 2006, 1:42 pm

<!--quoteo(post=57433:date=Feb 27 2006, 12:14 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 27 2006, 12:14 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Let's all face what this is ...<br /><br />Chad has no information ... no "goods" ... and, he's not the shrewdest guy around either, that's clear.<br /><br />In essence, he's like a prosecutor who has a big case in front of him, lots of publicity in the newspapers and tabloids, yet no evidence ... because the police did a rotten job, or the defendant is innocent. He has no idea, because he has no idea ... he's clueless. No data to work from. But, he's gotten caught up in the mayhem, and has promised the public that he will get a conviction of the defendant, because his ego has outpaced his character, so he's got to stick to his guns and do what he can to save face. In essence, he'll sell his soul to get a conviction, whether the defendant is guilty or not ... because he's not honorable, he only cares, selfishly, about his own career and his own hide.<br /><br />So, what does he do? He keeps pounding and pounding on theories, innuendo, rumours, insinuations, hoping that the defendant will somehow implicate himself by "slipping up". Once again, no care on the prosecutor's part if the defendent is really guilty, and if the "slip up" is just that, a mistake. Once again, this dishonorabe prosecutor cares for nobody or no one but himself.<br /><br />And, he keeps telling the jury, right from the opening statements and arguments, "I have the goods. I have the smoking gun. I will see you convict this man!" because he has to ... he has nothing else. Drag it on as long as possible, maybe the defendant will slip up ... maybe the delay will uncover some evidence ... although deep down inside, this dishonorable character knows the truth ... this defendant can't be convicted because there is no evidence other than rumour, innuendo, theory, feelings, and crap, which is no evidence at all.<br /><br />This is the story of Chad ... Sad Chad ... Miserible Chad ... imagine having to live like Chad ... where the only pleasure you get is in tearing someone else down, not performing yourself. Awful. Miserible. Terrible. Sad. Sad Chad.<br /><br />That's all this is ... sadly ...<br /><br /> :( <br /><br />-- Mark<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Gee, Mark, can we just leave the lawyers out of this? :lol: <br /><br />Even worse, you are inadvertently putting Dwayne in a category with Michael Jackson. :? Please, no more defense moves like that! :( <br /><br />I'd say Chad is more like one of those guys who wants to convince us that he really was abducted by aliens -- and probed and probed and probed. He just doesn't understand why no one will believe him -- the proof is all around us, but we are all too blind to see. The more we don't believe him, the more he has to try to convince us. He has to convince us in order to convince himself that he is not deluded. On the other hand, maybe . . . .<br /><br />Or maybe Chad sees himself as the doctor in the original <i>Invasion of the Body Snatchers</i>. He's trying to save us all from a dreadful menace, but it seems so terribly improbable -- until the truth is suddenly revealed (or reviled, as the case may be). So, if a truck crashes in California, and they find large seedpods in the back, metamorphosing into world-caliber indoor rowers, I will give Chad his due.<br /><br />In the meantime, let's just let Chad "revile" himself. :)

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Post by [old] Chad Williams » February 27th, 2006, 1:50 pm

<!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->Average of 46spm<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--><br /><br /><b>500 - 1:25.6 – 26spm<br />1000 - 1:27.8 – 38spm<br />1500 - 1:26.6 – over 40spm<br />2000 - 1:26.2 – way over 50spm <br /><br />Explain to me how you could up the rate by such a massive amount but keep the splits so consistent?</b>

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Post by [old] hjs » February 27th, 2006, 1:54 pm

<!--quoteo(post=57443:date=Feb 27 2006, 06:50 PM:name=Chad Williams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Feb 27 2006, 06:50 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->Average of 46spm<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--><br /><br /><b>500 - 1:25.6 – 26spm<br />1000 - 1:27.8 – 38spm<br />1500 - 1:26.6 – over 40spm<br />2000 - 1:26.2 – way over 50spm <br /><br />Explain to me how you could up the rate by such a massive amount but keep the splits so consistent?</b><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />There is nothing to explain, such a row did never take place :D <br />If someone can row in this fashion he is capable off much better, way beyond the Wr pace. <br />

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Post by [old] mpukita » February 27th, 2006, 2:01 pm

<!--quoteo(post=57437:date=Feb 27 2006, 12:27 PM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 27 2006, 12:27 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Mark, we will see if he will show up and what he pulls next year. No point, I think, in arguing upfront on that. <br />And don,t talk about ranger, that man doesn,t do 90 % of what he says, but he did at least one race and has done much more in the past. <br />I offcause Chad hasn't proof, there can never be, any proof, he is just trying to build up the pressure on Dwayne, that's all.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />So, let me get this straight ... lay off Chad, because he's all talk, thus far, and no action? But, we'll cut him slack because he's a new blow hard here ... we'll give him a year to produce. And, oh, by the way, while we give him that year, he gets to take swipes at people who have been producing and contributing here for a long time? Right, sure, I'll do that. Not.<br /><br />Ranger, more than most here, has PRODUCED what is a near WR time, this season. Yes, he goes on and on, but he PRODUCED. Something Chad hasn't done with CAD1 or CAD2, <b>nor with his racing</b>.<br /><br />Of course he has no proof, he's in la la land.<br /><br /><br /><br /><!--quoteo(post=57443:date=Feb 27 2006, 12:50 PM:name=Chad Williams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Feb 27 2006, 12:50 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->Average of 46spm<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--><br /><br /><b>500 - 1:25.6 – 26spm<br />1000 - 1:27.8 – 38spm<br />1500 - 1:26.6 – over 40spm<br />2000 - 1:26.2 – way over 50spm <br /><br />Explain to me how you could up the rate by such a massive amount but keep the splits so consistent?</b><br /> </td></tr></table><br />Chad:<br /><br />Nice try ... once again, <b>YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE TOPIC</b>.<br /><br />The topic was, <b>YOU HAD EVIDENCE THAT DWAYNE CHEATED</b>.<br /><br />You were clear on this.<br /><br /><b>YOU HAVE (STILL) NOT PRODUCED THAT EVIDENCE, AND LIKELY NEVER WILL.</b><br /><br />You have not yet produced, even with a "release" from Dwayne.<br /><br />I wouldn't want your life for 2 milliseconds ... you're a sad excuse for a human being. Sad, Cad, Chad.<br /><br />Helpful Hint: Just remember, the right way to sit on an erg is to sit facing the monitor, not away from it. My guess is that you've got it backwards and have been hitting your head too hard, too many times.<br /><br />-- Mark

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