Dwayne's Race Fund.

[[old] Anony Mous]

Hey Chad, I have been looking all around the rankings and there are several people I feel you can accuse of cheating. Maybe you can raise money for them too. One of them has even posted a time that is actually faster than the world record (it is verified). PM me if you want to know who they are.

[[old] Steve G]

[quote name='mpukita' date='Mar 1 2006, 02:26 PM' post='57829']<br />[quote name='Chad Williams' post='57825' date='Mar 1 2006, 09:16 AM']<br /><br />BTW, I booked my flight for the Evesham Mile. I hope you'll join us in racing 1609 meters on July 8, 2006 in Evesham. I have offered to meet you and buy you a beer (or two or three).<br /><br />Regards ... Mark<br /><br />[/quote]<br />Mark<br />I hope to be at Evesham, it will be good to meet you there and maybe exchange T Shirts, and beer!<br />Cheers<br />Steve<br /><br /><br />

[[old] PaulS]

<!--quoteo(post=57989:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:09 PM:name=Chad Williams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Mar 1 2006, 03:09 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>For once Mark, try and write somthing construtive, you might win a bit of respect back, but you have as much chance of doing that as Dwayne has of rowing under 7.00 for a 2000m at a public event.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Okay, now I think we're getting somewhere. I have no doubt that Dwayne could sit down and row under 7:00 for a 2k at a public (emphasis on the PUB) event, any day of the week. So that must mean that Mark will also be able to get plenty of respect, even in the eyes of his arch nemesis, Chad.<br /><br />Alrightythen, our hour's up, see y'all for another group session tomorrow. Real progress today, I'm proud of everyone.

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=57993:date=Mar 1 2006, 06:22 PM:name=PaulS)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Mar 1 2006, 06:22 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57989:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:09 PM:name=Chad Williams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Mar 1 2006, 03:09 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>For once Mark, try and write somthing construtive, you might win a bit of respect back, but you have as much chance of doing that as Dwayne has of rowing under 7.00 for a 2000m at a public event.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Okay, now I think we're getting somewhere. I have no doubt that Dwayne could sit down and row under 7:00 for a 2k at a public (emphasis on the PUB) event, any day of the week. So that must mean that Mark will also be able to get plenty of respect, even in the eyes of his arch nemesis, Chad.<br /><br />Alrightythen, our hour's up, see y'all for another group session tomorrow. Real progress today, I'm proud of everyone. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Oh, a wise guy ehh? (said in the voice of Curly, one of the 3 Stooges)

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--quoteo(post=57989:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:09 PM:name=Chad Williams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Mar 1 2006, 03:09 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->Mark, it is people like you that make me question if there is such a thing as a God, if there was why would he create something as useless and irritating as yourself? </td></tr></table><br /><br /> <br /><br />Wow, Mark has 51 posts today, so far!<br /><br />I am way back in 10th place with 6 posts, all of which probably total less space than just one of Mark's.<br /><br />No wonder he freaks out with my messages, as I get my points across with so many fewer words than he does! <br /><br />If the forum put a limit on space, I could use for a month, what Mark uses up in a day. <br /><br />Mark,<br /><br />Your utility bills must be quite outrageous.

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--quoteo(post=57985:date=Mar 1 2006, 05:58 PM:name=Chad Williams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Mar 1 2006, 05:58 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I was right though...............you are more interested in tearing me of a strip than answering the many questions asked hundreds of times on this forum about Dwayne Adams "times" and the proof of!!<br /> </td></tr></table><br />No, but I am interested in seeing this alleged "proof" of yours that Dwayne Adams has "cheated." I've never said that I had answers to your questions or proof of anything. We have gotten rather far off topic, but you are the one who has kept dangling purported evidence in front of us all. You are the one who seems to think that people are guilty until proven innocent.<br /><br />You made an accusation; you stated that you had proof that Dwayne Adams has cheated. It's up to you to provide the proof.<br /><br />It's time to fish or cut bait. Man up and show the "proof." If you have it, Dwayne Adams will be disgraced. If you don't, then admit that you have been talking out of your arse for the last month. You could have stopped this nonsense at any time by simply giving us all this evidence you say you have. Instead, you have delayed and obfuscated, time and again.

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=57966:date=Mar 1 2006, 04:39 PM:name=stupefaction)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(stupefaction @ Mar 1 2006, 04:39 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>His only races take place on water, in a double with a 60-year-old of indeterminate talent for a partner, thereby conveniently diluting his performance.<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Stupefaction:<br /><br />I just got done with a workout, so I can finally relax for the evening with a glass of wine and decompress. I must admit, I really didn't read more than a line or two of your post here because I've seen your posts on the UK forum, and, in my opinion, they have little value. The thought "spoiled little brat" comes to mind when I read them.<br /><br />Then, I read Dwayne's post on another thread here, where he highlights your tangential diss of a guy that, I suspect, you know little or nothing about, other than what you can Google from behind your school desk in Waterloo. That comment was incredibly out of line.<br /><br />To be successful and happy in life, I've found you have to have the help of other people. If you'd like to be successful and happy, I'd suggest an attitude adjustment ... but that might take a personality transplant for you. Otherwise, you'll remain a brat until you leave this planet.<br /><br />-- Mark

[[old] Dickie]

<!--quoteo(post=57943:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:40 PM:name=H_2O)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(H_2O @ Mar 1 2006, 03:40 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57940:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:36 PM:name=Dickie)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Dickie @ Mar 1 2006, 03:36 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I have raced in the past, most recently the 2002 CRASH-B's, Senior Men #52<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />This moment does not call for such a deed.<br />Indeed, what it does call for is your pledge.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Pledge - for what? so this insanity can go on for 7 months or more until BIRC EIRC or WIRC. Again I say give it a rest!!!!!<br /><br />Also, are you not assuming that money is the only impediment to any race appearance. If there is something else in the way then all this posturing is wasted.

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=57992:date=Mar 1 2006, 06:20 PM:name=Steve G)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Steve G @ Mar 1 2006, 06:20 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Mark<br />I hope to be at Evesham, it will be good to meet you there and maybe exchange T Shirts, and beer!<br />Cheers<br />Steve<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Steve:<br /><br />I too look forward to meeting. I just changed my hotel reservations to a local hotel rather than the "chain" I found on Expedia, thanks to some information I received from Eddie Fletcher today. It appears to be less than 500M from where the races will be held.<br /><br />We LWs have to stick together!<br /><br />Regards ... Mark

[[old] rowan]

<!--quoteo(post=58015:date=Mar 2 2006, 03:59 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 2 2006, 03:59 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57966:date=Mar 1 2006, 04:39 PM:name=stupefaction)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(stupefaction @ Mar 1 2006, 04:39 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>His only races take place on water, in a double with a 60-year-old of indeterminate talent for a partner, thereby conveniently diluting his performance.<br /> </td></tr></table><br />.. your tangential diss of a guy...That comment was incredibly out of line.<br />-- Mark<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Indeterminate means not precisely determined, it does not mean "bad".

[[old] hjs]

<!--quoteo(post=57966:date=Mar 1 2006, 10:39 PM:name=stupefaction)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(stupefaction @ Mar 1 2006, 10:39 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I pledge $50 in Canadian or American currency, whichever is worth more on the day of the event, to the Dwayne Adams Race Fund. I'm afraid this doesn't make me a man of substance, since I'm confident that Mr. Adams won't take us up on our offer. He has had many occasions in the past to race at his convenience and at little expense. Why would he now act any differently? It must be evident to everyone that the Dwayne Adams Race Fund is meant not as a pragmatic proposal but largely as a means of humiliating its ostensible beneficiary. I am a little ashamed, I confess, to be joining this jeering squad. However, a secondary purpose of the Fund is to give the skeptics among us an opportunity to declare ourselves. So, yes, I am a disbeliever.<br /><br />Although I think the scores claimed by Mr. Adams are well within the realm of the possible, even for a man of his age and bodybuilder's physique, I don't believe that he himself is capable of them. His failure to pull a sub-7 in public and his often bizarre responses to sincere queries lead me to this conclusion. When Xeno wanted to know why Mr. Adams has been reporting a vastly increased training volume over the past few years without any improvement in his trial scores, he mumbled something about improving his aerobic base and left it at that. He has never explained why he doesn't take part in erg races, although he is perfectly willing to post his scores at the top of every ranking. He has repeatedly promised photographs and videos without delivering any. His only races take place on water, in a double with a 60-year-old of indeterminate talent for a partner, thereby conveniently diluting his performance.<br /><br />In sum, Mr. Adams has taken a great deal of effort to report fabulous training volumes and trial scores, making himself one of the most prominent members of the erging community, yet he has done absolutely nothing to allow the public to measure his performance. The testimony of his associates and a verification code from a machine tucked away in his garage count for nothing. If I were a judge, I would convict Mr. Adams of fraud. But I am only a citizen, so I merely accuse. Mr. Adams, I believe you are a fraud. I worry that your fraudulent actions bring our humble sport into disrepute. If you wish to answer my charge, please take part in any public erg competition sponsored by Concept2, and show us a performance within 5% or even 10% of your claimed scores. Alterrnatively, please retire from the sport and make no further claims as to your prowess.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Nothing new but very nicely put. This case is kristalclear. <br />

[[old] H_2O]

I just want to point out that we have no right to expect Dwayne to accept our offer and travel somewhere even if all expenses are paid.<br /><br />Why should Dwayne travel to a destination where he does not want to be?<br /><br />I suggest instead that we offer the money to Dwayne as a prize.

[[old] hjs]

<!--quoteo(post=58050:date=Mar 2 2006, 11:54 AM:name=H_2O)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(H_2O @ Mar 2 2006, 11:54 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I just want to point out that we have no right to expect Dwayne to accept our offer and travel somewhere even if all expenses are paid.<br /><br />Why should Dwayne travel to a destination where he does not want to be?<br /><br />I suggest instead that we offer the money to Dwayne as a prize.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Fine bye me, but we also should think off a "good cause" if he doesn,t take the offer. And we should also set a limit for that price and a time pad (not to short). And that limit should not be 6.30 orso. <br />We all know that rowing 10 sec from our present 2 k form is not that difficult. so 5.56 would be a nice limite.????? <br />

[[old] hjs]

<!--quoteo(post=57815:date=Mar 1 2006, 02:42 PM:name=DIESEL)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(DIESEL @ Mar 1 2006, 02:42 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57811:date=Mar 1 2006, 08:32 AM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Mar 1 2006, 08:32 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br /><br /><br />Dwayne will run like h*** if someone comes over to Arizona No Man will ever see him do a time he is claiming. <br /><br /><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It may very well be. But I'll still believe Dwayne until proven otherwise. Like I said, if it bothers you guys that much, go out to Arizona and find him at his gym/rowing club. Bring the cameras too. Make it a grand spectacle.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />In normal life you are innocent untill proven otherwise. In sports it's the other way around. There has to prove before we believe it actually happened. There must be reasonable prove that it is done <br />Just one good performance would convince me and I would be member for life in his fanclub. <br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

I think Dwayne rowing a 5000m would be an interesting one to see. His current best logged time for this season is one of 16.03.6 which is an average split of 1:36.3 (which is the exact same split for his best ranked 6000m time of 19.16.2)<br /><br />Seeing as Dwayne pulled a 5.46.2 for a 2000m, the average for most 5000m times seems to be around 2000m time + 5, so Dwayne should be able to pull a 15.15.0 for a 5000m all out effort.<br /><br />Let’s give the guy a break and set him an easier target than that, how about rowing a 5000m at 2000m +8, that would be a time of 15.45.0<br />I would bet that anybody on this forum could row a 5000m at 2K +8.<br /><br />That is like saying, if your 5000m pb time is 18.00.0 minutes, can you row one at 18.50.0.<br /><br />Dwayne could easily manage that…………………couldn’t he?<br /><br />