Dwayne's Race Fund.

[[old] Dickie]

<!--quoteo(post=57929:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:20 PM:name=H_2O)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(H_2O @ Mar 1 2006, 03:20 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Pledged men of substance are now these:<br /><br /><b>mpukita, Ericr, j.d., SirPirate, hjs, Wiecher, Chad, PaulS, kinley, H_2O</b><br /><br />whilst these:<br /><br /><i>Porkchop, John Rupp, cbrock, Dickie, whp4, John_'SugarBoy'Foy, nharrigan</i><br /><br />are men of vaporous words but without deeds, and those:<br /><br />Cant_Climb, Paul_B, hepting, Spectre, NavigationHazard, Andreas,<br />c2jon, Mike_McGuirk, FrancoisA, samdkrc, Will, mumbles,<br />seshking, gooseflight, stupefaction, johnnybike, Andrew_Burrows, Fat, Alissa,<br />ranger, Exrook, jim_mcgoldrick, AndreasB, dgivnish, hennmart, Nigel, nysaaq, mimitap,<br />monkey, Ben_Rea, JohnBOve, nkoffler, SteveJohnson314, kwadams, , Couch_Potato,<br />flat_h2o, TPMcT, SkipD, bicmac, tomkirk, TonyW, rspenger, razorfish, KevP<br /><br />sneakily hung about but dared not show themselves.<br /> </td></tr></table><br />OK, I understand "vaporous words", it's just my opinion, but "without deeds" I do not understand, I have raced in the past, most recently the 2002 CRASH-B's, Senior Men #52

[[old] Ben Rea]

Sign me up for 100 monopoly dollars, im only a kid...who knows what i would do with real money <br /><br />what is this pledge about? dwayne again? ugh!

[[old] H_2O]

<!--quoteo(post=57940:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:36 PM:name=Dickie)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Dickie @ Mar 1 2006, 03:36 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I have raced in the past, most recently the 2002 CRASH-B's, Senior Men #52<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />This moment does not call for such a deed.<br />Indeed, what it does call for is your pledge.

[[old] kinley]

<!--quoteo(post=57908:date=Mar 1 2006, 02:00 PM:name=kinley)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kinley @ Mar 1 2006, 02:00 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>50 bucks toward finishing school for Chad.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />My pledge is for education. Not Dwayne's travel expenses.<br /><br /> >>>-------> Kinley (a woman of substance)

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--quoteo(post=57890:date=Mar 1 2006, 09:45 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 1 2006, 09:45 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>LMAO ... good one John ...<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />Dwayne hasn't said that he would accept the chances to compete.<br /><br />After all, he has passed the others up recently too.<br />

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=57951:date=Mar 1 2006, 04:06 PM:name=John Rupp)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Mar 1 2006, 04:06 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57890:date=Mar 1 2006, 09:45 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 1 2006, 09:45 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>LMAO ... good one John ...<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />Dwayne hasn't said that he would accept the chances to compete.<br /><br />After all, he has passed the others up recently too.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Not you, John FOY.

[[old] Alissa]

<!--quoteo(post=57929:date=Mar 1 2006, 12:20 PM:name=H_2O)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(H_2O @ Mar 1 2006, 12:20 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Pledged men of substance are now these:<br /><br /><b>mpukita, Ericr, j.d., SirPirate, hjs, Wiecher, Chad, PaulS, kinley, H_2O</b><br /><br />whilst these:<br /><br /><i>Porkchop, John Rupp, cbrock, Dickie, whp4, John_'SugarBoy'Foy, nharrigan</i><br /><br />are men of vaporous words but without deeds, and those:<br /><br />Cant_Climb, Paul_B, hepting, Spectre, NavigationHazard, Andreas,<br />c2jon, Mike_McGuirk, FrancoisA, samdkrc, Will, mumbles,<br />seshking, gooseflight, stupefaction, johnnybike, Andrew_Burrows, Fat, Alissa,<br />ranger, Exrook, jim_mcgoldrick, AndreasB, dgivnish, hennmart, Nigel, nysaaq, mimitap,<br />monkey, Ben_Rea, JohnBOve, nkoffler, SteveJohnson314, kwadams, , Couch_Potato,<br />flat_h2o, TPMcT, SkipD, bicmac, tomkirk, TonyW, rspenger, razorfish, KevP<br /><br />sneakily hung about but dared not show themselves.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />While I've been watching this train wreck, I think I resent your implication that I am a "man" in any sense...<br /><br />Although I suppose in your view I have been "sneakily [hanging] about but not [daring] to show [myself]"--that seems a bit pejorative for a perfectly normal activity on a forum like this one. <br /><br />You will note that none of those you listed (including me) logged off and watched as guests, which we might have, had we really been trying to be "sneaky." We have, instead—and quite obviously since you know who we are—been "showing ourselves." When you publicly post on a forum like this one, you are inviting the public (or at least the portion of the public which frequents this forum) to read and follow your discussion. <br /><br />Like a train wreck...this thread has been "asking for it!"<br /><br />Alissa

[[old] mpukita]

Alissa:<br /><br />C'mon, you really think he's suave, yes?<br /><br />-- Mark (public personna)<br /><br />

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--quoteo(post=57914:date=Mar 1 2006, 02:29 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 1 2006, 02:29 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57907:date=Mar 1 2006, 01:59 PM:name=Porkchop)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Mar 1 2006, 01:59 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57906:date=Mar 1 2006, 01:55 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 1 2006, 01:55 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57905:date=Mar 1 2006, 01:45 PM:name=Porkchop)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Mar 1 2006, 01:45 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>She'd even take demerits for skipping class to do it. Hoo-ah! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Vanderbilt?<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Right first letter, wrong southern state.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />VA, or VaT?<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Right first letter, right state, wrong school.

[[old] Alissa]

<!--quoteo(post=57955:date=Mar 1 2006, 01:19 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 1 2006, 01:19 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Alissa:<br /><br />C'mon, you really think he's suave, yes?<br /><br />-- Mark (public personna)<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Mark,<br /><br />Oh yeah (you man of substance, you...). <b><i>Sure </i></b>he's "suave"...as long as you mean the version of suave where you pronounce the final "e", that is! <br /><br />(Sorry H_2O, I couldn't resist...)<br /><br />Alissa<br /><br /><br /><br />

[[old] H_2O]

<!--quoteo(post=57949:date=Mar 1 2006, 03:59 PM:name=kinley)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kinley @ Mar 1 2006, 03:59 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57908:date=Mar 1 2006, 02:00 PM:name=kinley)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kinley @ Mar 1 2006, 02:00 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>50 bucks toward finishing school for Chad.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />My pledge is for education. Not Dwayne's travel expenses.<br /><br /> >>>-------> Kinley (a woman of substance)<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />But you see: Dwayne's travel and subsequent performance <b>is</b> Chad's finishing school.<br />

[[old] stupefaction]

I pledge $50 in Canadian or American currency, whichever is worth more on the day of the event, to the Dwayne Adams Race Fund. I'm afraid this doesn't make me a man of substance, since I'm confident that Mr. Adams won't take us up on our offer. He has had many occasions in the past to race at his convenience and at little expense. Why would he now act any differently? It must be evident to everyone that the Dwayne Adams Race Fund is meant not as a pragmatic proposal but largely as a means of humiliating its ostensible beneficiary. I am a little ashamed, I confess, to be joining this jeering squad. However, a secondary purpose of the Fund is to give the skeptics among us an opportunity to declare ourselves. So, yes, I am a disbeliever.<br /><br />Although I think the scores claimed by Mr. Adams are well within the realm of the possible, even for a man of his age and bodybuilder's physique, I don't believe that he himself is capable of them. His failure to pull a sub-7 in public and his often bizarre responses to sincere queries lead me to this conclusion. When Xeno wanted to know why Mr. Adams has been reporting a vastly increased training volume over the past few years without any improvement in his trial scores, he mumbled something about improving his aerobic base and left it at that. He has never explained why he doesn't take part in erg races, although he is perfectly willing to post his scores at the top of every ranking. He has repeatedly promised photographs and videos without delivering any. His only races take place on water, in a double with a 60-year-old of indeterminate talent for a partner, thereby conveniently diluting his performance.<br /><br />In sum, Mr. Adams has taken a great deal of effort to report fabulous training volumes and trial scores, making himself one of the most prominent members of the erging community, yet he has done absolutely nothing to allow the public to measure his performance. The testimony of his associates and a verification code from a machine tucked away in his garage count for nothing. If I were a judge, I would convict Mr. Adams of fraud. But I am only a citizen, so I merely accuse. Mr. Adams, I believe you are a fraud. I worry that your fraudulent actions bring our humble sport into disrepute. If you wish to answer my charge, please take part in any public erg competition sponsored by Concept2, and show us a performance within 5% or even 10% of your claimed scores. Alterrnatively, please retire from the sport and make no further claims as to your prowess.

[[old] H_2O]

<!--quoteo(post=57953:date=Mar 1 2006, 04:14 PM:name=Alissa)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Alissa @ Mar 1 2006, 04:14 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br />While I've been watching this train wreck, I think I resent your implication that I am a "man" in any sense...<br /><br />Alissa<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />As you know man inhabits the earth but not all these men are men. <br />

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--quoteo(post=57967:date=Mar 1 2006, 04:41 PM:name=H_2O)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(H_2O @ Mar 1 2006, 04:41 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57953:date=Mar 1 2006, 04:14 PM:name=Alissa)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Alissa @ Mar 1 2006, 04:14 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br />While I've been watching this train wreck, I think I resent your implication that I am a "man" in any sense...<br /><br />Alissa<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />As you know man inhabits the earth but not all these men are men.<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Here's a<b>n</b> opportunity to insert a spirited discussion of post-modern feminism into the thread. <br /><br />And why not? We need a diversion. We've pretty much exhausted everything else. 8) <br /><br />Let the trainwreck continue!

[[old] gw1]

<!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->John Rupp has pointed out that Andreas is a much better canoeist than Dwayne, and would probably beat Dwayne 100% of the time on such On Water races. </td></tr></table> <br /><br />JR<br /><br />I know i shouldn't ask, but why are you refering to yourself in the 3rd person and agreeing with yourself?<br />